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[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Those subs are all dead. Even more dead than the regular subs.

https://saidit.net/subs/notall/

[–]cisheteroscum 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

s/DebateAltRight got taken off but is still really active

[–]jykylsin2034 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Aw man I didn't even notice, I thought people just gave up and stopped making good posts there

[–]wristaction 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Why was it taken off?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not all of them, but most of them.

[–]Zapped 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ba-Dum-tsssshhh.

[–]Debra_L 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

/s/ironleft, notably.

It's what triggered that whole lxxxviii ordeal.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

I think the lesbian subs don't show up on all.

[–]Chipit[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

Feminist, not lesbian. They were taken out of /all because they violate saidit policies on censorship and following the pyramid of debate.

[–]FediNetizen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

You're both half right, but not entirely right. The /s/GenderCritical sub is primarily feminist, but a huge portion of the gender critical crowd are lesbians. This is because one of the big victims of the modern "trans rights" movement is lesbians.

To understand why, ask yourself: What do you get when you take a man that likes to crossdress and that gets off on the thought of himself as a woman, and tell him that if he believes he is, then he literally is a woman? Well, since most people are straight, what you will usually get is a straight dude that now thinks he must be a woman attracted to women. And what do we call a woman attracted to woman? A lesbian. So for the past several years, you've had actual lesbians dealing with delusional straight men pushing themselves into these lesbian spaces. And the lesbians have been getting sick of it. Which is why if you take of poll of the gender critical people, you will see a ton of lesbians in the sample.

And then if we look at the other active "lesbian/feminist" sub, it's LGBDropTheT. This sub is for same sex attracted (SSA) people who are tired of the shenanigans from the TQ+ crowd. There are plenty of lesbians in here, but it's definitely not a feminist sub.

[–]Chipit[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Way to miss the point. The point was: 1) They were aggressively pro-censorship and did not believe anyone should be able to speak against them.

2) An even more extreme version of their ideology developed and used this exact censorship weapon against them, for exactly the same reasons that they had been using it against everyone else.

3) They were absolutely outraged to be censored.

4) They came to Saidit, a free speech site, and then immediately recreated the pro-censorship environment that bit them in the ass. They learned absolutely nothing, which is the most terrifying part of the story. Humans are supposed to learn and grow from experience, and this didn't happen. Why is a good question to ask.

you've had actual lesbians dealing with delusional straight men pushing themselves into these lesbian spaces. And the lesbians have been getting sick of it.

It's called tolerance. You know, something that feminists demand from everyone, but are somehow exempt from extending to others. This one-way street isn't new, see: http://archive.is/QRJ6m

Were I to make this exact statement on one of their subs, I would be censored. Fuck feminists. Long live free speech, and God bless the United States of America!

[–]FediNetizen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I get what you're saying. Feminist activism was the progenitor of modern cancel culture. I would like to push back by asserting that there is a substantial difference between a subreddit banning viewpoints on their own subreddit, and a subreddit trying to ban those same viewpoints on the wider site.

Feminist communities can more or less peacefully coexist on the same site as mens rights communities as long as they understand that they're supposed to keep to themselves. It's the same with any other diametrically opposed community. I don't think deleting opposing opinions on their own subreddit makes them hypocrites for getting upset when their entire subreddit is nuked.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Feminist communities can more or less peacefully coexist on the same site as mens rights communities as long as they understand that they're supposed to keep to themselves.

Now instead of re-inventing censorship, you've now re-invented segregation. Keep those darkies out of our nice neighborhoods!

I don't think deleting opposing opinions on their own subreddit makes them hypocrites for getting upset when their entire subreddit is nuked.

It's the exact same thing they did to others, only now it's being done to them. Poetic justice, something quite rare IRL.

[–]FediNetizen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Segregation denied minorities access to common goods and services because of their race. Not being allowed to post on a specific sub isn't denying your freedom of speech rights. It's more like a church not allowing a speaker to advocate for gay marriage at their worship service. "The right not to listen" is pretty fundamental to the freedom of speech.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

In other words: it's OK when we do it to others, but not OK when others do it to us.

I had such high hopes that feminists would see that censorship was wrong when it was done to them. But it didn't happen. They are not in favor of free speech; they are only in favor of their own speech.

[–]Comatoast 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I never would have considered being able to talk to members within my own sex class about problems that only those within that particular class experience a privilege, not until the past few years due to it no longer socially allowed without consequences. I suppose that feelings of safety are a privilege. Regardless of your feelings on feminism, or whoever's fault that the issues of censorship fall towards, it's not just exclusively feminist women that are being affected by the censorship. Censorship goes deeper than any feminist could ever have the clout to employ, and you're giving it far too much credit for something that's already been woven into place in some way or another since civilizations began. While any individual has the ability to speak or express themselves, there will eternally be another that contemptuously disagrees and demands retribution. This existed long before concepts of feminism.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

it's not just exclusively feminist women that are being affected by the censorship.

And yet they were 100% in favor of it as long as they were the ones censoring. The moment it turned on them, suddenly censorship was evil all along.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (68 children)

s/incest, s/retards and many more

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (67 children)

I'm not sure why s/retards even exists. It's sole purpose is to drag discussion down on the Pyramid of Debate.

[–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (35 children)

not at all. Its sole purpose is to name retards. An important social release valve when dealing with an internet full of idiots.

Its not on the /all sub, and is listed as NSFW, so hardly visible at all. Don't get your panties in a twist.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (34 children)

Site-wide rules still apply to subs that aren't in all, and to all users regardless of where they post.

[–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (33 children)

ah, get a little bit of power, and soon the totalitarianism seeps in.

are you still sore that I took on your skiting about karma and wiped the floor with you in a week? I'm sure that now you've got yourself some authoritay your karma has grown past mine again, since people will turn to you.

oh.

whoops.

give it some time.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (32 children)

wiped the floor

lmao get over yourself. nobody but you (and your now-banned simp) thinks that

[–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (31 children)

funny. When you were the one who initiated the whole thing by going on and on about your karma and how special it made you.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

I made one post and it offended you. One post isn't "going on and on".

[–]bobbobbybob 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

a true measure of character is the ability to own your own actions. You singularly fail at that. When you first arrived, you spammed the place with links to your various social media profiles and blog sites. remember? do you then remember attacking me for 'stalking you' because i clicked on one of the links and talked about the content that you had directed us to look at?

You are a pathetic example of the narcissistic self-involvement and dishonesty of trannies.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

a true measure of character is the ability to own your own actions. You singularly fail at that.

I do own my actions, I just don't apologize for offending snowflakes.

links to your various social media profiles and blog sites

I think it was essays, actually. Regardless, that doesn't break the rules. Calling everyone "retards" does.

do you then remember attacking me for 'stalking you'

You literally went through my profile replying to all my old posts. That's stalking.

You are a pathetic example of the narcissistic self-involvement and dishonesty of trannies.

Actually, that describes you. Narcists always project themselves upon others. They also think the world revolves around them, which you do.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

And you know the original argument was because you got offended that I posted a comment twice and began dragging discussion down the Pyramid of Debate by making accusations and calling names.

[–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

are you now acknowledging that you began the whole "i have imaginary internet points and that makes me better" thing? or you going to try and gaslight me and deny it, by behaving like a child and making out that anything that was said beforehand has any bearing on the subject at all.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

I never said "that makes me better". It was just a dumb post about "hey, look, I got useless internet points that literally have no value".

I bet you saw that post and thought it was about you.... lmao, the world doesn't revolve around you. I didn't even think about you until you started freaking out.

[–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (27 children)

hilarious, I just clicked your name and saw your recent comments. Pages of one liners. Great pyramid work, there.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

The Pyramid of Debate doesn't pertain to the length of comments, it pertains to the subject matter.

On the other hand, your profile is almost exclusively dragging discussion down the Pyramid of Debate.

[–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (24 children)

/u/magnora7 can you please step in here. I object to being attacked by an apparent admin who has a personal dislike for me and who is grossly misrepresenting my content.

your profile is almost exclusively dragging discussion down the Pyramid of Debate.

Is a false statement, and should not be allowed to stand.

[–]369 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

What do you propose magnora does?
Do you want him to ban this guy? What action do you expect to be taken?

I'm serious and am not being sarcastic.

[–]bobbobbybob 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

I'd like Magnora to remove admin privileges, tbh. That's all. Before he gained power he was just annoying, now he's full on abusive

[–]369 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

Have you considered blocking him?
I don't mean to be dismissive, but it seems like interacting with the guy isn't that valuable...

[–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

he's an admin. So unless he's checked, the site will die. today's drama is indicative of it.

[–]369 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

u/TheAmeliaMay

Is this what you're so twisted up about?
I never meant that interacting with you isn't valuable. I meant that you and u/bobbobbybob interacting doesn't seem that valuable to this being a conducive environment.

To think this little quip, where I tried to get the guy to simmer down instead of just putting the pedal to the floor got you to come up with some crazy ass story about how I'm with some weird group...
It really seems like you're having a hard day and don't know who to point your frustrations at.

Maybe take a break from the internet for a few hours or something. I was literally trying to ease tensions.
What a meltdown you're having.

[–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

got you to come up with some crazy ass story about how I'm with some weird group...

It is months of this kind of insane behaviour from TAM that has led me to lose my patience and go into full on abusive mode. You wait until he starts gaslighting you, pretending he never said what he said. Then his posts will disappear and evidence will be lost.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I meant that you and u/bobbobbybob interacting doesn't seem that valuable to this being a conducive environment.

It isn't; bob's sole goal is to drag discussion down the Pyramid of Debate. But there has been one positive aspect: his behavior and motives are now widely know.

you to come up with some crazy ass story about how I'm with some weird group...

You advocate for them, thus you are for them. You serve their interests, rather than the site's, whether you intend to, or even know it.

Maybe take a break from the internet for a few hours or something

I do plan on taking a break.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

[–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

that's a very small selection of my posts, further proving your bullshit.

interesting that you've picked ones from my post about bone marrow cells, where I was responding to JC firing a whole lot of off topic shit at me.

Just maybe, dude, you've got a chip on your shoulder.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Doesn't matter, it still breaks site-wide rules. I would ban you myself, but since we have personal beef I asked magnora to do it.

[–]bobbobbybob 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I would ban you myself

And this is why you have no place being an admin. You cannot help but abuse your position.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I don't make the rules, I just enforce them.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

41%

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

😮

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I am not sure why you are allowed to exist 😜

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Kek

[–]Poofter 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I never get to see r/gaybrosgonewild on r/all!!! Fucking liberal agenda censoring conservative views!!!!