Why do Americans make fun of Indians for not eating beef but cry like little bitches if Asians eat dog?

submitted by sneako from self.AskSaidIt

Who gives a fuck about dogs? You people kill cows, pigs, sheep, deer and other animals brutally and by the truckload but for some reason this dumb animal is worshipped like a god and fucked by your women. what gives? I'd eat dog in a second fuck those rabies infested death machines

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[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

A cow is an herbivore. A dog is a carnivore. In general, man doesn't eat other carnivorous mammals. They're considered unpalatable and lack nutritive value.

I don't think carnivorous mammals in general eat each other. We don't really care for carnivorous birds, either. Nobody is passing up KFC to go chow down on Kentucky Fried Eagle.

So, if you're eating dog, you're either dirt poor or you've got some weird point to make. In China, I think it's a combination of both. Yes, the Chinese are poor, but it's also true that dog-eating is a largely male activity that carries a certain meaning. It's a gross, masculine indulgence, like doing a big, smoky burnout at the Dairy Queen or smoking cigars.

That sort of thing is uncouth, and so is poverty. Ergo, eating dog is objectively uncouth regardless of cultural context.

(ETA I don't like dogs, though. Would hate to have one enter my home.)

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

A dog is a carnivore. In general, man doesn't eat other carnivorous mammals. They're considered unpalatable and lack nutritive value.

They don't lack nutritive value, but it is incredibly counterproductive to feed an animal meat to harvest a smaller quantity of meat from them. Carnivores make for terrible livestock and thats why you rarely see them eaten by civilized people

[–]StillLessons 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nicely put.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Interesting points.

[–]ID10T 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

What have you got against big smoky burnouts and cigars??? I feel personally attacked!

[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

All that shit is fine in small doses.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ignore the wench, smoke a fatty and enjoy, bask in your manly manlyness 👍

[–]Insider 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

China's entire history had several periods of famine. They eat a larger variety of animals, numerous animal parts, and insects too.

Only a small percent of the population eats dogs and insects. It usually depends on the region. I think the dog needs to be a certain type of breed too. Pretty sure it's got nothing to do with masculinity.

[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Best source I could find on dog consumption and masculinity: https://www.animalsasia.org/assets/pdf/2015_FOF_reports-report4_A4-EN-20150609_low.pdf

"Women are far less likely to eat dog and cat meat than men."

Another one: https://sentientmedia.org/dog-for-dinner-blasphemy-or-hypocrisy/.

What it says is that dog is viewed as a cure for impotence, and that a cooked dog is a traditional gift to a family blessed by a male child.

[–]Insider 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

What it says is that dog is viewed as a cure for impotence, and that a cooked dog is a traditional gift to a family blessed by a male child.

I haven't heard about that stuff from any of my mainland friends in terms of dog eating, but it seems to me that females are just more sensitive to social stigmas. I've met a lot of females that don't think there's anything particularly wrong in eating dogs, but they just don't eat it themselves (some have tried it before). I only know one Chinese dude who might eat dogs about once or twice a year.

Cat eating seems really rare, but there is some sort of leopard/panther dish (which I think is illegal in China). They also eat donkey, which is slightly more popular.

[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I haven't heard about that stuff from any of my mainland friends in terms of dog eating, but it seems to me that females are just more sensitive to social stigmas.

Yeah, agreed. And to be clear, I don't put too much stock in the whole male/female thing. My dad used to tell me to eat oysters, frog legs, chicken livers, etc. to "put hair on my chest." You could put that in an academic paper, but I don't consider it an integral part of American culture LOL.

Cat eating seems really rare

I was surprised it was mentioned in that article I linked. Never have I looked at a cat and thought, "man, that looks like some good eatin' there!". And I'm from Louisiana.

[–]Questionable 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

It's because Asians have no empathy and kill for fun, relishing in the suffering of animals.

Do you wish to see dogs being boiled alive, skinned alive, or looking on in confusion as they get their heads bashed in with hammer assuming it won't happen to them next in a room drenched in blood? In short, it is rare to see footage of Asians humanly putting any animals to slaughter, and has nothing to do with which animals it is that they choose to eat.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

It's because Asians have no empathy and kill for fun, relishing in the suffering of animals.

You realize Asian buddhists are more concerned about the suffering of animals than any other major religion right? This assertion youre making doesnt seem particularly well supported

[–]Questionable 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Really think about what it is you have just said. The topic is meat eaters (dogs). Where as Buddhists are commonly vegetarians.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

There were monastic guidelines prohibiting consumption of 10 types of meat: that of humans, elephants, horses, dogs, snakes, lions, tigers, leopards, bears and hyenas

Well, I see dogs on that list... But did they really have to say "Don't eat humans" at some point? Was this a necessary degree for some reason? Whatever. Doesn't matter because Buddhism does not equate to Asians.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The topic is meat eaters (dogs). Where as Buddhists are commonly vegetarians.

Jesus fuck you are stupid, they are commonly vegetarian because they think it is unethical to kill animals.

Buddhism does not equate to Asians.

Right and Muslim doesn't equate with Arab, its only the most common religious tradition among that ethnic group

Clearly contradicting your claim here, that Asians innately have no compassion for the suffering of animals, as the most common religious practices specifically codify against this

It's because Asians have no empathy and kill for fun, relishing in the suffering of animals.

[–]Questionable 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Jesus fuck you are stupid, they are commonly vegetarian because they think it is unethical to kill animal.

Correct. They do not kill animals. Now, I am going to say this one more time. The topic is meat eaters. You can not site Buddhists as a typical example when we are discussing those who eat dogs. How is this confusing you?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The topic is meat eaters.

No the topic is your obviously incorrect assertion that an entire race of people has no compassion for animals, of which refusing to kill animals is clear evidence of

[–]Questionable 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

No, the topic was presented by u/sneako And it is as follows:

Why do Americans make fun of Indians for not eating beef but cry like little bitches if Asians eat dog? Who gives a fuck about dogs?

Of which the very premise of this topic asserts that Asian's kill animals, in particular dogs for food. Which is common knowledge.

Now seeing as how passionate you are about this, shouldn't you have taken issue with that and not me?

Now here is you:

I've eaten dog in Korea, its very gamey and kind of tough. Wouldn't opt for it over beef in any circumstance.

...and you again... Somehow:

which refusing to kill animals is clear evidence of

So are you this mythical moral Asian that both does and does not eat dogs? How is that working out for you? Any cognitive dissonance taking place right now? And is this in line with "schrodinger's cat"? Do we now have, "Schrodinger's Asian vegetarian dog owner, that does not kill dogs, but eats dogs because of their ethical Buddhist beliefs. OH, and they taste real gamey, no I don't care how long they suffered."

Doesn't quite have the same ring to it as "Schrodinger's cat" now does it? But is that how you see yourself? Some sort of divine creature that can kill and consume the flesh, because somewhere a Buddhist exists, though he is not you.

Sir, I assure you that I can not put out of my mind the things I have seen. The inhumane way the typical Asian puts both animals and people to death. None of which is the way of Buddha. It's all just unfeeling, uncaring communism without mercy or empathy. And nothing more. And no amount of double think on your part can change my mind. Sorry.

One more time. You can not site Buddhists as an example in this thread, where the topic solely concerns American's reactions to Asians that eat dogs. And all though some Asians are Buddhists, all Buddhists are not Asian. In addition, "Asians" are not a race, but an entire continent of people. And no, I will not quantify that I explicitly mean dog eating Asians when in reference to those Asians that eat dogs, as it is the base premise of the thread you are currently in. Nor will I link you to videos or images of the atrocities committed by Asians. As unlike you, I do have standards, and won't post pornography to this website. And not only do I not eat dog, but I was a vegetarian for close to a decade. So I think I understand the ethical concerns of animals a little bit more than you do. Thank you very much, and good day Sir!

Ĥ̅͛ǝ̮̺͕̲̰llo ʍoɹlp' I,m Qnǝsʇᴉouɐqlǝ.̬̘̟ͅ

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The Indian Jain would peacefully disagree.

[–]ID10T 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Show me on the stuffed bear where the bad dog touched you.

[–]Bridgeheadprod 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I’ve never heard anyone say anything About Indians not eating cows. Who cares? I’ve also heard nobody bitch about dogs being eaten. Did you make up this fantasy all by yourself?

[–]LordoftheFlies 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

OP needs to share a big slab of BBQ beef with man's best friend and relax.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

He knows people are laughing at him but he'd prefer it be because of his diet than his face.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I've eaten dog in Korea, its very gamey and kind of tough. Wouldn't opt for it over beef in any circumstance.

But to answer your question of why, its because dogs are pets that many people have a strong emotional attachment to, whereas almost nobody keeps those other animals for pets. They don't care about killing animals, they care about killing animals they see as pets rather than livestock, although I admit this is philosophically a dubious distinction. People just react emotionally rather than rationally

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Dogs have been bred to provide purpose and entertainment to people, same as horses.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The dogs that are eaten in South Korea (at least) are bred to be eaten.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yep. Can confirm. That makes sense.

[–]IkeConn 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If they wanted to eat turds and cats I wouldn't give two shits. Grain fed beef. It's what's for dinner.

[–]David_Allen_Cope1 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

It's not so much the eating as burning them alive with blow torches and shit that bothers me. Bugs think suffering makes the meat taste better when it's exactly the opposite

[–]Insider 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

A subsection of the Chinese population is pretty inhumane. We're talking about peasants who were probably raised by uneducated, illiterate parents who grew up in a country with mass food scarcity in a dog-eat-dog environment (no pun intended).

The younger to middle-aged generation is better than the old and I'm guessing the next generation will be further modernized.

[–]David_Allen_Cope1 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That's good to hear. Thanks for the context.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Cows know and understand that they are food animals. So do sheep, pigs and chickens, etc. They only ask that we treat them humanely and don't disrespect them for these characteristics. They accept that it's their job to feed us, but they resent being treated like less than dirt by many meat farmers, when we should objectively be thankful to them for their immense service to our kind.

The Indian "Sacred Cow" thing is a degenerate belief founded on this reality. Sri Aurobindo in the 1960s, de-symbolized the Indian sacred texts (the Rig Veda) and extracted the fact that the "Sacred Cow" is a metaphor.

Dogs' role with regards to humans is completely different, and that is why eating them is stupid, wasteful and wrong. They are intelligent and sensitive creatures. Also, as HKP wrote, eating a carnivore is terribly inefficient and wasteful, since you have to feed it meat to get less meat. There is no way around the wastefulness, and therefore stupidity of such actions.

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You shouldn't eat carnivores, too many toxins build up in the food chain.

Pretty much every country where they eat weird shit do so because a history of famine. People didn't choose to eat those things until they had no choice.

Meanwhile Indians used to eat beef and other meat but stopped solely due to religious nationalism and class war leading to mass dietary deficiencies and widespread diabetes.

https://theconversation.com/hinduism-and-its-complicated-history-with-cows-and-people-who-eat-them-80586#:~:text=Scholars%20have%20known%20for%20centuries,%2C%20the%20Rig%20Veda%20(c.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Did you ever own a dog ?

I can relate to any rancher hurting when he has to bring his cattle to the butcher because of fat, rich people wanting to get even fatter.

I'll never forget the eyes of the first rabbit, I killed for my own nourishment. He saw it coming, I'm still absolutely sure.

The same as I'll surely never forget any dog that had to leave me.

[–]chottohen 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Hindus do not eat beef; Moslems do not eat pork. Millions of both religions live in India. I believe that sacred cows taste better.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Because it's funny and sad.

Who gives a fuck about dogs?

Women, children, and effeminate men. Depending on estrogen levels they also care about cows and want them off the menu too.

I'd eat dog in a second

Yeah, we get it. Weirdo.

fuck those rabies infested death machines

Ewww. You really aren't selling your argument very well.

Personally, if the dog is killed humanely I think it's fine. But I would personally still not eat it because of the afore mentioned diseases. Dogs are not good farm animals. That dish is made from nasty street mutts.

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I think it’s not so much as eating the animal as the fact one norm is sociological and the other is religious. As it is paganism raises the eye brows of many a critical thinker. Most people would think that anyone who seriously worships the Greek gods today is either crazy or stupid.

[–]cant_even 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree with OP. The Asians have it right. From personal observation, their sidewalks and foot-paths are refreshingly free of wandering 4-legged threats, too.

Don't give me any Western 'fluffy puppy' BS, either.

Your home-grown "heckin' rarepupper" won't hesitate to eat you when the table's turned.