Am I the asshole for getting mad? I am the blue texts.

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[–]Questionable 16 insightful - 7 fun16 insightful - 6 fun17 insightful - 7 fun -  (11 children)

Yes, you are the asshole. You called her a "stupid fucking whore", and you're not even sure what she said about you.

What you did is in fact the definition of an asshole. You opened up, and shit poured out your orifice.

Wait. You putting those vegetables in your butt or something? Because, that's the only reason you can be this angry over vegetables. Protip: don't put vegetables in your butt, you freak.

[–]Musky[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

How many years have you been in your current relationship?

[–]Questionable 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

Still looking for validation aren't you? Again. You are the asshole.

[–]Airbus320 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

But he did ask you a question, maybe he is not a bot after all 😮

[–]Questionable 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Wasn't aware that was a concern with this thread.

[–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

I was curious, didn't expect snark.

It is hard to take the advice of a bunch of terminally single people who disagree with you.

[–]Questionable 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

You were looking for justifications for your own actions. It's why you made the thread.

For reference, I was once in a relationship with a woman, that was an ex-prostitute, former heroin addict, former run away, and HIV positive Satanist that was dumb as a brick. She made me so angry, that I could literally see red from the blood vessels in my eyes bursting. She's been dead for a good thirty years now. Most likely died from the medication Dr. Fauci was getting everyone to take back in the late 80's early 90's. Now, she was a literal whore, that I later found walking the streets again. And do you know what I never once called her?

"Stupid Fucking Whore"

That's you. On the topic of vegetables? In regards to your wife I assume. And then you came here looking for validation? And you think that's going to come from me? Or more accurately. You asked:

"Am I the asshole"

And again, I must inform you. Yes. Yes you are.

[–]Canbot 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Sounds like you are afraid to be single so you cling to a relationship you don't really like.

[–]hfxB0oyA 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

If you've been in yours long enough that you're calling your woman a stupid fucking whore, it's time to rethink whether this is something that continues to be best for either of you.

[–]Airbus320 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

😮

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Mm

[–]jet199 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Seems controlling.

You never really have any control in what others say behind your back.

[–]Airbus320 3 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

Jews have

[–]LarrySwinger2 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (27 children)

You know my stance. YTA. What kind of vegetables you eat is so small a matter that it's perfectly normal for her to think it's an exception even in spite of your agreement. We all want our privacy to be respected, but it's no longer reasonable when it disrupts the natural flow of her conversations. You're too controlling, and also abusive.

[–]Musky[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (26 children)

You know my stance

Yeah, begging for nudes from her. Fuck off Larry.

[–]LarrySwinger2 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

Classic. You're asking for our input, and when it isn't what you wanted to read, you find fault with the person posting it and dismiss it. I thought this was a serious AITA and you were open to the possibility of being wrong. How naive of me. I see that your only motivation is to spite her. Well, just know that you're only making yourself look bad by posting these conversations. You're calling her a whore and she even responds with "okay", and you're surprised when people stand up for her? Fuck you for forcing me into a whiteknight position.

And no, there was nothing to my joke. I always post jokes in spite of the fact that it can push people's buttons. Don't count on my support anymore when you're dealing with an issue, since you don't appreciate it anyway. In fact, how about you stop turning this place into a kindergarten and take your drama elsewhere?

[–]JasonCarswell 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

^

[–]Musky[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I know what you were doing Larry, I've done it myself. Stfu while you're behind because you aren't making it better. Don't do things like that. Be a respectable human being.

[–]LarrySwinger2 8 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

Nope. I've never asked a woman for nudes and I'm hardly interested. I may just give it a try with Mel, though, if only to spite you. Anyway, you don't get to control my speech in addition to hers. I made a dedicated post for the meme, also for context, so people can see what this is about.

And check out the other jokes surrounding this episode as well:

[–]Musky[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Larry, done what you done bro. Fuck off eurotrash.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Larry you creep

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (11 children)

He has done no such thing.

[–]Musky[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

He said it right in front of you, dummy. 🤦‍♀️

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

You can't take a joke, dummy.

[–]Musky[S] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

The question is asked in a joking way because if it's rejected they can write it off as just a joke. It was a serious request.

[–]jet199 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (4 children)

Breaking bro-code now. Shit's going down.

[–][deleted]  (3 children)

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    [–]jet199 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

    That's clearly not what he's referring to.

    [–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    That's part of it.

    [–]Airbus320 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    Lol, high IQ move

    [–]Musky[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Yeah, I've done it myself. I don't appreciate others doing it or acting like I don't know what they're doing.

    [–]JasonCarswell 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

    You may be confusing Larry with me as I jokingly asked for noooods once.

    If it wasn't obvious it was a joke, then you're obviously not observant, no joke.

    [–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    No, it was Larry this time. Pretty sure nobody here will share nudes with you since you posted your ex for everyone in chat. That's why you don't share those things. Well, one of the reasons.

    [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    No one gives a fuck about my ex's mild photos.
    Few if any even know her name.
    MANY share those things.
    It's called the Internet.

    [–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I wouldn't do it, I consider it unethical unless you had her permission to freely share them.

    [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    No one has asked you to.

    The sword of judgement cuts both ways. You do not want me to start.

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Hahaha. Begging for nudes. Breathing Haaaaaa Hahahahaha.

    …

    Look, you can’t take advise from a bunch of cucks. You are going to get gaslit into oblivion.

    You are calling names because you are pissed. And you are right to be pissed.

    You are not controlling, you are not possessive. There are rules to dating you, and one of those rules you is that if your not there in person, they keep your name out of their mouths.

    If she doesn’t comply, kick her to the side of the road. It’s not that hard man.

    I realize she’s the only girl on said it or whTever, but it’s not worth the heart burn. There’s nothing she does, that makes it worth it to put up with a loud mouth.

    [–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    You're right. My brain knows this. It's just hard.

    [–][deleted] 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (30 children)

    I should show every screen shot of you calling me stupid, a whore, a slut, and just putting me down.

    [–]iamonlyoneman 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

    This tbh. Allcaps yelling someone is a stupid whore means graytext buddy needs to run for the hills and dump bluetext buddy for being a bitch

    [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    Thanks, I appreciate that.

    [–]Musky[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Then do that.

    [–]Airbus320 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

    Thats sad, I think you are a cool dude

    [–]LarrySwinger2 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    Stupid bot can't distinguish between men and women.

    [–]superbug 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    😮

    [–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (23 children)

    Which only happened after you were unfaithful, you stupid slut.

    [–]jet199 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (22 children)

    You are a married man.

    [–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

    She okayed everything, I wouldn't do anything that she didn't want.

    [–]jet199 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

    Am I imagining you moping because you wanted to buy your internet girlfriend a present and it caused you to fall out with your wife?

    [–][deleted]  (8 children)

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      [–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

      and there's evidence she DOESN'T like it

      She didn't like me getting so attached, and I don't blame her.

      I don't know why anyone's wife would put up with half of the disloyalty that M's wife has supposedly allowed

      There's no disloyalty when it's done with her approval.

      [–][deleted]  (6 children)

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        [–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

        It's more like a work wife, but for the internet. Internet girlfriend. You're talking like I have a side piece I'm banging.

        The situation also predates the wife by four years, not Mel, but her predecessors. I like to call them The Bored Housewives Club collectively.

        [–][deleted]  (4 children)

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          [–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          Omg I did do that.

          [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (8 children)

          You are an example of how NOT to successfully be polyamourous.

          Read "The Ethical Slut". It's very good, even if you have no interest in being "different". I have a copy around here somewhere.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ethical_Slut

          [–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

          There's no fucking so it's not really polygamy. It's like a friendship with extra steps. Almost all the parties are informed and consent, it's ethical on my end. Her dude, well, lets poor out a cold one for him, he doesn't even know there was a second guy, poor schmuck.

          [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

          Yeah, he doesn't notice me texting you constantly, what a fucking retard. Of course he knows about you.

          [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

          Not sure what you ever saw in Musky, but I do with d3rr. There are other good folks here too. Also, if you feel charitable, compassionate, patient, and generous, you might even find some nice online company in an InCel or few.

          [–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

          *Used to text constantly.

          [–]POOPCORN 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          toilet etiquette

          https://youtu.be/SSoZ6c_WWtM

          [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

          Obviously you need to read the book. Polyamoury is NOT just about sex, or about open relationships. It's about intimacy and love (amour) with many (poly) people - respectfully.

          [–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

          The relationship with the wife hasn't been this good in years. Y'all think me talking to Mel was depriving somethin from the wife, but it's outsourcing things she's not interested in, and there are rules. If the wife wanted it ended, she has that option.

          [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          You are not justified and your excuses don't hold water or fool anyone, but you are still free to be as crappy as you want to be.

          By any contemporary standard measure, your divided selfish focus should be on your wife, fixing that mess, and being a better person.

          [–][deleted]  (8 children)

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            [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

            He gets off on the prolonged abuse.

            [–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

            be a husband to your IRL wife?

            We have an awesome relationship. She's not just very social, and I like talking endlessly. It works to have an internet companion.

            [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

            It works to have an internet companion.

            Obviously, it doesn't.

            Get a shrink you can trust.

            [–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

            Y'all are doing it right now for free, nibba.

            [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

            No.

            You need proper therapy, not armchair amateurs.

            [–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            How is any one person comparable to all six Saiditors.

            [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            You can't even understand my literal words, much less communicate clearly, on this site with all the time in the world. Even poorly executed, writing is a craft - a less-authentic filter - with people hiding behind keyboards.

            In person through pacing, body language, intensity, volume, eye contact, etc etc etc, will give off far more information than any text message could ever attempt to do. You may wear clothes, but you and your motivations will be infinitely more naked to the observant, unable to hide your impulse reactions (which are already more than obvious on SaidIt).

            This goes both ways. The intimacy, contact, companionship, etc that you seek, might be found in a counsellor.

            [–][deleted] 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

            This feels like an invasion of privacy and an overreaction to something probably insignificant.

            This is obviously not about vegetables...

            [–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

            It definitely about an invasion of privacy. She shared things I told to her in private. I am returning the favor.

            [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

            An eye for an eye rarely has the desired outcome 😔

            [–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

            When you're out of good options, you still have options.

            [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (5 children)

            True, but you also have choices. There is always a choice of inaction over action.

            FYI, I just chose to fart at my desk, now I must suffer the consequences of smelling it. I had the option to air my fart in the fresh air where nobody else would be dragged down by my infernal suffering but instead risked it.

            [–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

            There is always a choice of inaction over action

            I hate the word, as I hate death, all Capulets, and thee.

            [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

            Quoting Shakespeare doesn't make you look smart.

            Actions and behaviour with wisdom do.

            [–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

            I recalled the quote from memory. 🤓🧠

            [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

            So what?
            I will bite my thumb at them, which is disgrace to them if they bear it.

            [–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Do you bite your thumb at me, sir?

            [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

            YTA lol. Musky has never eaten a beet.

            [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (26 children)

            Honest opinion?

            I think you are making very reasonable requests, 2/3 of them are very polite, #3 seems a bit much. Its understandable you are upset given its third time youve had to make this request, but I think you went from 0 -> 0 -> 100, when 0 -> 25 -> 50 might have been better

            [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (23 children)

            Fuck you.

            [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (22 children)

            Fuck me? I was trying to explain to him in a way I thought was understanding of his feelings why he didn't need to call you a bunch of nasty names, while giving him credit for respectfully making his request in the other messages. People tend to take criticism better that way. Wtf is your problem?

            [–]troubleshooter 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

            hongkongphooey, I hate to disturb you, but I have a problem.. yesterday, I think I had three testicles but now I only have one.

            is there any chance this is from covid?

            maybe I should get another omicron boost?

            do me a favor and look around on the floor and under your seat and just check if you see a couple of MALE TESTICLES, NOT FEMALE TESTICLES.

            DO NOT MICROWAVE MY TESTICLES

            REWARD $44 Billion dollars

            [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            May I interject?

            ...

            Yes.

            [–]troubleshooter 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            do. Not. Microwave. Ball. Testiculars

            [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

            HE'S MAD ABOUT VEGETABLES.

            [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

            I don't think it's about the vegetables to him. He is uncomfortable about being the subject of conversations between you and smokey, apparently regardless of the context, and feels like you did not respect this after he tried to politely request you not do so. I realize it was likely not your intention to disrespect his wishes, and probably didn't understand that even talking about him in terms of vegetables would qualify as this and upset him. I think he probably finds it hurtful that you dont understand why this hurts his feelings

            Again, Musky is my friend, and I didn't want to make it appear I was invalidating his feelings, while encouraging him to resolve conflicts with less nastiness. I don't think what he said was called for, and more importantly isn't constructive for him, or going to help him be happy in relationships. I also don't think coming at him from a purely critical perspective or making it appear I've chosen sides against him is likely to get through to him when he has hurt feelings.

            [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

            Notice how if you don’t gaslight Muskrat, Mel is beyond livid. Some how there’s something wrong with muskrat. But no one is calling out Mel for similar horrible behavior. Women are not more mature, they get a pass in everything because they have vaginas.

            There’s a user in here defending her, hoping to get closer to her privately.

            This is a huge circle jerk for women, and it’s why women should not be in any real workplace, like stem fields.

            [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

            That is a very funny take, considering Musky is trying his damndest to gaslight me into thinking I am a smooth brained idiot. I could show screenshots of all of those texts I guess, but I won't.

            [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            Do whatever. The relationship is toxic.

            [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

            Stick to coding

            [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            This is something that you both need to resolve away from a public forum.

            [–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            I have been bugging you to take vitamins to avoid Wernicke–Korsakoff syndrome. If I tell you how I feel you say it's emotional manipulation, and when I tell you that you never used to have to be told things over and over again and you don't seem to understand what I tell you, it's gas lighting. Fun.

            [–][deleted]  (6 children)

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              [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

              We should let him know that he's absolutely the asshole in those texts.

              This is terrible advice, and literally repeating what Musky did. Aggressively correcting people tends to make them defensive, and gives their defense mechanisms room to paint you as the asshole, and letting them avoid any self-reflection on how their actions were not helping them. Telling Musky he is an asshole is going to be about as effective as telling Mel she is a terrible bitch. Telling Musky as someone who cares about his wellbeing that the way he is responding is counterproductive to what he is trying to accomplish is by far the better tactic here.

              [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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                [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                We should be honest. If anyone acts like an asshole (including yours truly), tell them. Very simple. There is absolutely no reason to 'walk on eggshells' around here. Fuck that.

                I guess I just don't see it that way. I don't see this as walking on eggshells, I simply think people are more receptive to criticism when you appeal to their reason and self interest rather than expressing moral outrage. I was honest in saying his reaction wasn't the best way he could have handled that. I have no interest in declaring either party an asshole or bad guy, thats for people who wont change their ways, I don't think its constructive.

                Walking on eggshells to me has a slightly different connotation. I walk around eggshells around trans people, I will specifically not give my honest opinion at all to avoid setting off their fragile feels. I'm not looking to give them constructive criticism like I was with Musky, I just want to go about my day without setting off an exploding trans rage bomb, and I'm not invested in trying to reason to with them

                [–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                Telling Musky as someone who cares about his wellbeing that the way he is responding is counterproductive to what he is trying to accomplish is by far the better tactic here.

                It's not counterproductive at all, you're assuming what I'm trying to accomplish is to fix things, go back to where we were. That is impossibro. We cannot move forward, we move sideways.

                [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                Yeah, I was assuming at the time you sent that you were simply expressing your anger and wanted her to take some responsibility, rather than trying to end things in a cathartic fashion. I may have totally misread the situation

                [–]Musky[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                I was doing a bunch of things all at once, but I don't know if a cathartic end is one of them. Penghy was before Melody, she died of liver failure. Otter was before Penghy, she died of liver failure. Here's Mel. There's more to this than my feelings, but they're involved too. It's a big tangled ball of bullshit.

                [–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                This.

                [–]troubleshooter 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

                oh, vegetables? I thought you said testicles.

                you almost got paid big.

                [–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                It's not about the fucking vegetables, how do you not understand this?

                And don't be mean to HKP, the man is a golden god.

                [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                Being a female

                [–]Musky[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                Once she blew her third time, I was mad, yes.

                [–]troubleshooter 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                trump 2024

                [–]MightyMorphinFaggot 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

                Talk about her to all of us and see how quickly she gets a rage on at you.

                Double standards with women. Don't get mad, just change your expectations to whatever they think is normal until they realise it's actually not normal.

                I done that with my wife and 5 minutes later she stopped doing something because I done the same thing with other women.

                Jealousy is a fantastic motivator for change.

                [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                That’s one way to deal with it, behave in a similar manner.

                But that lets the woman lead. You are taking your cues from her. And that leaves you open to a woman whim.

                I’d leave her. You misbehave, I leave.

                [–]IndianaJones 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (22 children)

                cant we just all get along

                If she was revealing private things about you to Smoke, then I would understand your frustration. But from my understanding, she was simply telling him what vegetables you enjoyed.

                Yes, you can politely ask Melody to not talk about your vegetable preferences to someone you dislike (Smoke). But she can also politely refuse. Sure, she could be a good friend and comply with your request, but she is under no obligation to. You cannot police someone else's private conversations.

                In my opinion, not wanting Melody to tell Smoke your vegetable preferences is bit of an overreaction.

                There's no way you're freaking out about vegetable preferences alone. I think there's more going on. I need more context. But in my opinion, you kinda overreacted man. Do better, be better, play better. I know you can, Musky. You're better than that.

                I love you man. But it's only because I love you so much that I refuse to lie to you, and so I must give my real opinion. No lying allowed, even if it might hurt you and even if it's something you probably don't want to hear.

                Anyway I'm gonna hump my pillow and pretend it's you until the situation is resolved. If the drama isn't resolved by my 1000th hump then you two need to cut ties with each other. I'll be keeping an eye out. This friendship seems too unhealthy to continue.

                [–]JasonCarswell 6 insightful - 7 fun6 insightful - 6 fun7 insightful - 7 fun -  (11 children)

                not wanting Melody to tell Smoke your vegetable preferences is bit of an overreaction.

                Not even a nothing burger.

                This is a nothing salad.

                [–]IndianaJones 6 insightful - 7 fun6 insightful - 6 fun7 insightful - 7 fun -  (9 children)

                DECENTRALISE ALL SALADS!!!

                [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

                I think there's more going on.

                I blame the cat.

                [–]IndianaJones 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (5 children)

                The cat is in the wrong regardless because it gets to cuddle Musky without my permission. Oooh.... that makes me SO angry and jealous!

                [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                I think there's things they're not telling us about the salad too. I bet things get sliced julienne. I love it when things get sliced julienne.

                [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

                If you don't mind my beard you get my hugs.

                [–]IndianaJones 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

                Thanks Jason. Could you please send me an audio clip of you saying "Hi Indy, I am holding your hand. I love you very much. I am rubbing your hand"

                [–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

                Remind me.

                One of these days/weeks I'm going to set up my mics, do some tests, and record audio for a LeverMind video or few. I'll do it then.

                [–]IndianaJones 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                Awesome, thanks man!

                [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                I blame the cat.

                Write a better story: Save The Cat

                [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                Yes!!!
                Do NOT render unto Caesar what is salad.

                [–]jet199 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

                Lol, joke of the year from Jason.

                [–][deleted]  (4 children)

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                  [–]IndianaJones 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

                  47

                  [–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

                  69

                  [–]IndianaJones 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

                  up to 109 now

                  [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

                  I always stop for 69.

                  [–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

                  I don't dislike Smokey, he's just the other guy Mel likes.

                  It's like a stable of us here.

                  [–][deleted]  (3 children)

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                    [–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                    "Show me a man or a woman alone and I'll show you a saint. Give me two and they'll fall in love. Give me three and they'll invent the charming thing we call 'society'. Give me four and they'll build a pyramid. Give me five and they'll make one an outcast. Give me six and they'll reinvent prejudice. Give me seven and in seven years they'll reinvent warfare. Man may have been made in the image of God, but human society was made in the image of His opposite number, and is always trying to get back home." -Stephen King

                    [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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                      [–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                      A list of internet girlfriends who validated your existance

                      I need people to talk to, a support network. I generally get along better with women than men. Generally the women are platonic and the name internet girlfriend is applied as one would "work wife." A handful have been more involved.

                      [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (23 children)

                      https://youtube.com/shorts/nUeps7uexd4?feature=share

                      No, you are correct. That is a bad woman to keep around. She shouldn’t be sharing your personal life with other people; she has no respect for you.

                      [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

                      Fuck you.

                      [–]Musky[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

                      Fuck you.

                      [–]troubleshooter 5 insightful - 6 fun5 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 6 fun -  (2 children)

                      Hey, umm, musky and melody?

                      As soon as I was reading that chat, I knew it was muskrat and melody.

                      I think you are both doing great.

                      Professionally, that is my opinion.

                      [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

                      Thanks, Edward.

                      [–]POOPCORN 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                      Do you spit or swallow? I'm asking for a friend

                      [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

                      What did either of you actually expect from Saidit? 🤷

                      [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                      ^

                      [–]Musky[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                      We didn't meet here, she followed me here from Reddit.

                      [–]Adventurous_Ad6212 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

                      Fuck me

                      [–]Musky[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                      Later, bby.

                      [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                      U up?

                      [–]WoodyWoodPecker 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                      https://youtu.be/poIMsMf7N_E

                      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                      It is very telling, how you go on the attack, and not how you recognize your shortcomings, apologize, and then fix them.

                      Like something is wrong with me because I’m not gaslighting Muskrat with you.

                      [–]Airbus320 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

                      Mgtow

                      [–]jet199 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

                      MGHOW

                      [–]Airbus320 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                      Fgtow

                      [–][deleted]  (6 children)

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                        [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

                        What do you want me to tell him?

                        I’m being honest.

                        [–][deleted]  (4 children)

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                          [–]JasonCarswell 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                          bullying from Musky against Mel

                          I really fucking hate most of what you say socks, but in this case, it's not only blatantly obvious, but well worth supporting in order to get through to Musky in hopes he can improve, be civil, and behave - or inspire him find help to do so. And of course it's necessary to defend the innocent, Mel, who's done nothing out of order.

                          Much offence was taken, not given, and with all that stolen fencing Musky built an enormous ego tower of drama.

                          [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

                          Thanks, socks.

                          [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

                          Are you in her side because she is a woman?

                          Do you want some nudes 🫢

                          [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

                          Yes

                          [–]Musky[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                          You're biased, you don't get a vote. No democracy for you.

                          [–]CarbonDioxideHead 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (21 children)

                          You asked her if she was talking about you to others behind your back, she said no.

                          She lied.

                          You're not in the wrong at all, she's lying to you, betraying your trust and disrespecting you.

                          Dunno, if you can't trust this woman to exercise some self control and not use you as a gossiping piece, then there's a decent chance that down the line she could demonstrate the same lack of self control and morals and cheat on you, and neatly cover it up with her habit of lying.

                          Not sure if you're married or what but I'd start thinking about things between you two if I was you.

                          She's in the wrong, all you did was type a mean message over text as a response. She's currently stabbing you in the back.

                          Might not be the most moral thing to do but maybe start talking to other women, maybe you'll be lucky enough to find one who isn't a Judas.

                          [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (11 children)

                          You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. I was literally in a friendly group phone call with these two guys a few days ago, and apparently I am not allowed to talk about Musky's vegetable preferences. I was not gossiping, we were just talking about Thanksgiving dinner. It was not mean spirited in any way.

                          [–]CarbonDioxideHead 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

                          Thank God I'm not married to you luv.

                          You lied to him, you have cheated on him, and you're still calling and talking to guys when you're married? Yikes.

                          Yes, you did gossip about him. Here's the thought process:

                          He told you something he was vulnerable about, in private. You were aware there was a bit of shame or insecurity there, whatever it may have been.

                          You told other people about it because you knew it'd probably make them laugh. He was conscious about what he told you, and you used it as a joke and spread it to others regardless of how it'd make him feel.

                          You gossiped about him.

                          Let's say you told him something embarrassing, like "I have to wax everyday or I'll grow a moustache"

                          He goes on a call with two girls and he tells them about that and they all have a good laugh. "Hahaha she should grow it out and be like Steve Harvey lol"

                          He made you the butt of a joke and gossiped about something you're sensitive about.

                          See how that works?

                          Anyway let's be honest, you're a pretty shit wife. (Think your married, could be wrong)

                          You're a liar, which means he can't trust you. You're a cheater, which means this man is gambling with raising a kid that isn't even his.

                          You're upset that he calls you a whore and a slut?

                          He spoke the truth.

                          I think he'd be better off divorcing you. You both don't seem religious so it's not like your marriage is that committed.

                          "Until death do us part... in the eyes of the government"

                          Like, what's the future for you two?

                          You have kids, you keep cheating on him and lying to him, you become a single mother and a nasty custody battle ensues.

                          "It's a foolish man, he who builds his house on sand."

                          Musky should've walked when you cheated on him.

                          Unless you two want to bring kids into a broken home and play custody wars, I think it's best you split up.

                          God help Musky, cursed to be bound to a Judas.

                          [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

                          Haha, Musky and I aren't married. This is strictly internet drama.

                          [–]Airbus320 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                          A boring drama

                          [–]CarbonDioxideHead 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                          Try to stop stabbing him in the back lol

                          [–]Musky[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                          I was literally in a friendly group phone call with these two guys a few days ago,

                          That was a few months ago.

                          [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                          Lol, no it wasn't.

                          [–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                          Oh, wife confirms you are correct. Seems like forever ago.

                          [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                          https://saidit.net/s/Poetry/comments/1emm/rotten_fruit/

                          [–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                          I was literally in a friendly group phone call with these two guys a few days ago,

                          I asked you not talk about anything about me, repeatedly.

                          [–][deleted]  (2 children)

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                            [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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                              [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                              What?

                              [–]Musky[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                              🙏

                              [–][deleted]  (3 children)

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                                [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                                With all due respect, you are cucking out.

                                [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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                                  [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                  I can’t believe how polarizing this post is.

                                  I’ll go back and re read.

                                  [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                  This, IMO, is exactly correct. She betrayed him. He needs to move on, and cut her off. Let her live in her misery, don’t get play in the mud with her.

                                  He’s all ready entertained this too much.

                                  [–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

                                  Yes.

                                  You might get my compassion, sympathy, and respect if you showed that to others.

                                  Be a man and be responsible for your own actions and emotions. Grow up.

                                  [–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                  Idk what you're going on about here.

                                  [–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                                  Re-read it. I can't be more clear.
                                  Perhaps you have a mental block.

                                  [–]Musky[S] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (23 children)

                                  Top left is the first time it happened, bottom right is the second, top right is the third, bottom left is not a separate incident but I included it for consideration.

                                  The vegetable thing is because this story she shared was something I told her privately about common veggies I have never tried. She plays it off like I'm being a weird asshole over nothing because it is insignificant. But it doesn't matter what the private thing she shared with another guy was, I have asked her repeatedly not to discuss me.

                                  I feel this is not only disrespectful and a blatant disregard for my feelings, but the bitch doesn't even have the decency to own up to it. She's always trying to weasel her way out.

                                  u/shill-for-freedom I know everyone just sees me blow up at her, but goddamn, wtf more can I do besides just not tell her anything.

                                  [–]jet199 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

                                  wtf more can I do besides just not tell her anything

                                  Well this is basically what you always have to do. You have to amend your behaviour as you learn what other people are like, you can't do much to amend their's.

                                  I'm a very private person but the rest of my family are very open. I know if I tell my mother something strictly confidentially I might as well tell the whole world so I don't tell her much. No matter how much I shouted and screamed at her as a kid it never changed the way she behaved. In fact I've never known someone to change their level of openness when it comes to talking about other's lives. It's one of those things that is pretty much set in stone so you have to work around that. Looking at the screenshots she clearly doesn't get what you are concerned about and that's not something you can teach her.

                                  [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

                                  I do not broadcast Musky's business to the world, he's just highly sensitive about me talking to one particular person and being very unreasonable.

                                  [–]jet199 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

                                  Particular person or men in general, I wonder.

                                  Men know if certain things get out to the bros they will be hearing about them for decades later.

                                  [–][deleted]  (7 children)

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                                    [–]Airbus320 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

                                    Tru that, let's teach u/zom to man up

                                    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

                                    😧

                                    [–][deleted]  (2 children)

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                                      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

                                      You are not my internet girlfriend.

                                      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                      Why do you at people?

                                      [–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                      he's just highly sensitive about me talking to one particular person

                                      Yes, and I love Smokey, but there's some things I'm not comfortable about since you swapped me with him for a week.

                                      being very unreasonable

                                      I disagree, but reasonable or not, they are my feelings, and this is you disregarding them.

                                      [–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                      Thanks Jet. I think you're right. You know I get shit every time I talk to you from her while she's texting D3.

                                      [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

                                      You are correct. But I posted that YouTube video above, this is attention.

                                      She loves that shit. Her worst nightmare is no one giving her special attention.

                                      This just feeds the monster.

                                      [–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

                                      False.

                                      If Mel wanted attention, she'd be verbose like socks or be a drama queen like Musky.

                                      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

                                      I understand what your saying about socks. But muskrat comes off as hurt or whTever trying to talk about his issues.

                                      [–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

                                      Musky is a big baby with a big ego incapable of understanding how shitty he is so that he can evolve and remedy his ceaseless crap.

                                      [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

                                      I mean, he is “married” and in an internet relationship.

                                      [–]Musky[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

                                      Well, it's a domestic partnership. It's not identical to marriage but just saying I'm married is easier than explaining it. Didn't mean to bump a month old comment for shits and giggles, was looking at things you said that turned out to be particularly prescient.

                                      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                                      Like what?

                                      [–]Musky[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                                      I already told you there were only about 4 people with good advice.

                                      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                      Oh, for some reason I remembered it as "things I heard that I particularly agreed with," my bad, carry on.

                                      [–]carn0ld03 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                                      Consider investing into a reliable ready reference you can pick up and study to better prepare yourself for engaging the opposite sex. I'd suggest that you get yourself a copy of Doc Love's "The System: The Dating Dictionary". Doc Love, who until his passing was also known as Tom Hodges, wrote a weekly advice column that's archive is mirrored on several mens focused sites and a podcast. His media is a bit pricey, but it's a solid foundation a guy can branch out from in RP aware circles. I'd suggest you review his advice column to decide if his view on dating and relationships is aligned with what you aspire for yourself. To save yourself a search, give this scribed link a gander to find out if his book is something you'd like to add to your library.

                                      [–]tiny-brown-mug 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

                                      This is a huge part of why internet relationships are a horrible idea. It can get very emotionally fraught, sensitivities run high, feelings get hurt, and there's only so much nuance that can be conveyed in text.

                                      I have you guys on here as internet friends, but if things got any more personal that that, I'd have problems, too. I think it would be healthier for Musky to back off of this friendship entirely, as it seems to be causing him emotional distress, and this distress is pouring out in kind of passive-aggressive ways into the rest of the forum.

                                      If a friendship is becoming emotionally difficult and is effecting your ability to think clearly or be happy, end the friendship. It's not worth it. Musky, you have a wife in real life. You have male internet buddies on here you can talk to and share pictures of your cat, tobacco, and adventures with. You don't need an internet girlfriend.

                                      And if I had been incredibly specific with someone about not sharing any details at all about me with another party and they went ahead and did it anyway, I'd be cheesed off, especially if there was supposed to be some kind of trust involved. It seems one party is taking this friendship way more seriously than the other party, and this may be a sign that the friendship is not healthy for either person.

                                      [–]Musky[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

                                      This is a huge part of why internet relationships are a horrible idea

                                      Things might be kind of a trainwreck now, but it hasn't been all bad.

                                      this distress is pouring out in kind of passive-aggressive ways into the rest of the forum.

                                      Socks claims this is the most comments a Saidit post has ever gotten. I'm not so sure y'all are right about this being a bad idea. I am seeing no negative outcomes, only positive. Except maybe my ire at some people's behavior. All energy flows according to the whims of the Great Magnet.

                                      as it seems to be causing him emotional distress

                                      That it is, and it's hard for me to deal with. But everyone gets an entertaining post from it, I get good advice, Mel sees maybe my position is not as ridiculous as she initially dismissed it as. She's getting less shy too, that seems positive. And maybe, just maybe, we can save her from drinking herself to death.

                                      What's a little bullshit and noise compared to that?

                                      I appreciate the advice, I mean to come off as I disagree necessarily.

                                      And if I had been incredibly specific with someone about ((not)) sharing any details ((at all)) about me with another party and they went head and did it anyway, I'd be cheesed off, especially if there was supposed to be some kind of trust involved. It seems one party is taking this friendship way more seriously than the other party, and this may be a sign that the friendship is not healthy for either person.

                                      You nailed it.

                                      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

                                      maybe, just maybe, we can save her from drinking herself to death.

                                      Pretending to care about her drinking problem (which you aired to the world, have never heard it from her) while verbally and emotionally abusing her... driving her to drink. lol

                                      I'm sure she feels very cared for and supported in her battle against addiction when you call her a stupid fucking whore over a vegetable comment. No one even cares and no one even clowned you. I made 2 jokes because your overreaction to this is absurd and displays a psychotic level of insecurity. If you remember, the initial conversation just led to me and Shills talking about delicious ways to prepare said vegetables.

                                      Yeah, you're totally saving her by calling her a stupid fucking whore over nothing and posting your private conversations to this forum. lol

                                      [–]Musky[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

                                      Pretending

                                      Fuck you, you little bitch. I'm sick of these women dying on me. I want to see you talk to someone dying in pain for a year when they can't do anything for it and then dare say that to me.

                                      You juvenile little punk.

                                      I'm sure she feels very cared for and supported in her battle against addiction

                                      What the fuck is care and support going to do? Ignorant motherfucker.

                                      I have rarely seen such an awful take. I assume this is Socks, only you spout drivel this off base.

                                      If you remember, the initial conversation just led to me and Shills talking about delicious ways to prepare said vegetables.

                                      You ignorant retard, that has nothing to do with anything. Read the 3 or 4 intelligent comments here and try to better yourself, or at least don't inflict your idiocy upon me.

                                      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

                                      I'm sick of these women dying on me.

                                      Interesting how you are the common denominator.

                                      What the fuck is care and support going to do?

                                      If care and support is too hard for you, you could also try not driving her to drink with hate and abuse.

                                      [–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

                                      Interesting how you are the common denominator

                                      That's ANOTHER totally retarded take.. damn, you are in rare form. Machine gun retardation firing full bore. I met the last three in the same place, people just tend to die there whether I'm involved or not.

                                      you could also try not driving her to drink with hate and abuse

                                      Another one, goddamn dude, you're blowing my mind one person could be this ignorant.

                                      Please recycle yourself, you're wasting resources. 🙏

                                      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                      Aaaand you were unable to respond to even one of my points. Carry on with your trainwreck of a life then. lol

                                      [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

                                      Musky please don't eat us

                                      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                      Eat /u/Airbus320, have mercy on the rest of us

                                      [–]tiny-brown-mug 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                                      Hey, Musky. I'm seeing overall, the results of this have been negative. People are piling on you, you're getting your feelings hurt, and it seems like you're putting too much emotional importance on this friendship with Mel. I'm not even sure how it's a friendship if you feel betrayed, de-valued, and not listened to.

                                      I'm gonna be honest; if I met a woman who was married, and she said that she needed e-friendships with guys because she "just connected with men better", I'd call nonsense. She needs to connect with her husband and get off of these e-friendships before they spiral into something painful like an emotional affair, heartbreak, or a serious misunderstanding. Seems like that could be what's brewing here.

                                      Mel either is not seeing this relationship through the same lenses that you are, or perhaps you're a little too into her. Or both. Either way. I don't see how this unfolding issue has been emotionally helpful for you. I'd end it.

                                      [–]Musky[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                      Huh. This seems like a warm friendly Saidit hug to me, it's such an outpouring of love and support, and it validates a number of my issues. I feel as if maybe perhaps resolution has not been achieved right now, it will be soon, and everything will be just as it should no matter the outcome. I am loathe to try and force it. It would be like trying to improve on an ant hill. We would only be capable of crude movements and ruin an intricate design we do not fully comprehend.

                                      I'm gonna be honest; if I met a woman who was married, and she said that she needed e-friendships with guys because she "just connected with men better", I'd call nonsense

                                      I wouldn't blame you. I don't think this is that exactly. There are some factors fairly unique to this particular situation.

                                      [–]tiny-brown-mug 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                      You're welcome, Musky. You're a good, decent guy and you deserve better than to invest 100% of your limited emotional energy into a relationship that isn't going anywhere, and is causing you stress and disappointment. I hope you find the resolution you're looking for, and can take care of yourself, mental health wise and otherwise. The smartest moves I've ever made over the course of my life have been to emotionally or physically walk away from dynamics that were just a source of pain, confusion, unrequited something, or loneliness. A relationship that leaves you feeling lonely or in doubt isn't healthy.

                                      You have hobbies, talents, interests, and a cool fire pit in your backyard (hand picture). Focus on the stuff that's real, helpful, and restorative. thumbs up

                                      [–]TimothyMcFuck 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                                      you called her a whore you're the asshole

                                      [–]Musky[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                      Cunt

                                      [–]TimothyMcFuck 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                      Dipshit