What should be added to SaidIt's default list of subs?

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[–]HongKongPhooey 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

I would just as soon do away with the default list. I never post in non-default subs, and would never make a new sub, because why would I intentionally put my post somewhere with limited visibility. The users who are only using the subscribed tab will also never even see a new sub. You incentivize every user capable of thinking rationally (a minority here thankfully) to limit their posts strictly to the default list, this is not a sensible system and will not create a desirable outcome

Default should be subscribed to everything, with the list managed by removal. Every new sub should be auto-added to everyones list until they decline the content by removing it, or select some option not to auto-subscribe to new subs, but it should be the default.

The other way would be to make default subscribe to nothing and add them manually like reddit, but this doesn't seem like the best system for a site with few users and where google isnt driving interested people to the relevant sub in the search results.

For this site, the best way to manage the subs is everyone is subbed to everything unless they unsubscribe. You could still let people 'uncheck all' and add only a few if they really wanted. The other options are more problematic than any pitfalls of this system given our very small userbase, and the utter stupidity of the default list crippling the potential reach of any non-default subs and creating the incentive to post everything to only default subs like 'whatever'

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I would just as soon do away with the default list.

Agreed. Unfortunately, that doesn't mean everyone on SaidIt will automatically be subscribed to all the stuff they've missed subscribing to in the first place. The management, or lack thereof, of the subs has been a shit show from day one.

I post in limited-visibility subs to keep things topically organized.

Every new sub should be auto-added to everyones list

Agreed.

the utter stupidity of the default list crippling the potential reach of any non-default subs and creating the incentive to post everything to only default subs like 'whatever'

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[–]HongKongPhooey 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I post in limited-visibility subs to keep things topically organized.

I have a solution for this. If the subs are hierarchical, i.e subs of subs (the same structure as nested comments actually, a Tree). For example, s/politics would have s/debateAltRight and s/AntiwokeLiberals. Subscribing to s/politics would inlcude posts from ALL sub-subs that you haven't unselected. S/all would just be the top level encompassing the entire hierarchy (root of the tree in CS terms)

Now see how this changes the incentive - My incentive to increase visibility actually favors posting in the most SPECIFIC sub and letting it trickle UP to all the more general ones above it, whereas it wont trickle down to more specific subs, which will lead to a natural organization of the posts

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I LOVE categories (ie. on Wikipedia) that can have more than just one hierarchical parent. (ie. Schwarzenegger parents: Actors, Governors, Mr. Universes, etc.) Top categories like science would have a lot of sub-fields, many that would overlap with other fields like medicine, engineering, space, etc.

I really like the idea that you sub to all children-subs too. It simply makes sense. I would unsub from games and most sports.

These "subs" can simply be categories or metatags too, if that makes it easier.

Important on the wikis: do not loop categories because apparently the server keeps needlessly processing. (ie: Don't make your grandfather your child.)

Easy simple incentives are good.

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I thought that's how it was, did it change? When I first joined your account was even subscribed to every sub.

[–]HongKongPhooey 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I thought that's how it was, did it change? When I first joined your account was even subscribed to every sub.

D3rr did say it was like that at one point but was hazy on the details of what happened. For the last year and a half or so I've been here there is a default list

[–]elchupacabra 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Default should be subscribed to everything

That would be A LOT

[–]HongKongPhooey 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Subscribed would just essentially be using the All tab until you removed shit

[–]iamonlyoneman 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

All of them, except the ones that prevent themselves from being on /all?

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

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[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

 

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