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[–]MyYoyo 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Matthew 22:36-40

36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” 37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

1 Corinthians 13:4-8

4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. 8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.

[–]EternalSunset 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

The part of The Bible that got written by romans instead of jews is noticeably better.

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Actually both parts were written by Jews. Romans tampered with the second half to make it mandate their cultural norms. Of course so did Jews (both parts). But every known original author in either is Jewish.

[–]EternalSunset 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Paul was roman, not jew.

[–]Vulptex 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

He was both. A Jew living under the Roman empire.

[–]Vulptex 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (15 children)

Strange how all the things Jesus taught are considered satanic, and all the things he condemned are considered Christian. It's almost like a corrupt religious institution had them flip flopped for self gain...

Of course neither philosophy teaches the full golden rule.

[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (14 children)

Jesus said to love others, treat them as you want them to treat you and turn the other cheek. That leads to people working to improve society even when they feel slighted and mistreated.

These satanic teachings say things like "treat others how they treat you" which means that any time you feel wronged, even if that feeling is wrong, you will retaliate. That retaliation in turn gives the next person reason to retaliate against you, and retaliations are always worse than the initial slight. That leads to a spiral of hate and evil.

[–]Gravi[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

From what I learnt, the person who wrote all of this mainly took "inspiration" from other great works, possibly including the bible itself.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I'm not sure where that claim comes from, but I guess everything is dirivative if you are pedantic enough. To me it seems that, especially in it's effect, the teachings of satanism are quite the opposite of christianity. They are about selfishness, vanity, vengence, and narcissism. I think it might be intentional too.

[–]Gravi[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't see any evidence here that would justify calling any of this inspired by christianity. At best it is a direct attack on christianity by focusing on creating arguments that contradict christian teachings.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Given that most Christian teachings are the exact opposite of Jesus and the original Christians, it comes closer than you think. Maybe not inspired by him, but ends up similar by opposing the same bad and corrupt aspects of Christianity Jesus criticized the Pharisees for.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Actually I've been shocked. None of the sources agree, but a lot say they are against vanity, vengeance, and anything that harms thy neighbor. And they think religion does those things. About the only difference according to some sources is they're a little more selfish than the golden rule prescribes. Of course we're talking about edgy rebellious teenagers who only like Satan due to reverse psychology, not people who actually worship the devil.

A few have gone as far as to say Jesus himself is Satan. Which is of course ridiculous, but I can kind of understand it knowing that this Satan figure isn't the same as the biblical satan who plays the role of a demiurge. Ironically, by Christianity and Satanism's concept of Satan, Jesus actually does play the role of Satan literally by rebelling against the god of this world who is the actual biblical satan. So opposing the satan is Satanic, how about that. Funny how backwards religion can get things.

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Probably. "Satanism" was originally started by a bunch edgy rebellious teenagers who knew nothing about the satan of the Bible.

[–]grassfed 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

u/jesus happy that way

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I know, that's why I said neither teaches the golden rule. "Christianity" doesn't either, it teaches that you're weak if you don't retaliate, and "weak" people are ultra-sinners apparently. But the rest of so-called Christianity is "never question society, never question authority, never question the church, worship nature, worship evil, worship the devil, worship society, worship authority, obey the ways of the world and the flesh, etc." This is literally the Pharisees all over again.

“What do you think? A man had two sons. And he went to the first and said, ‘Son, go and work in the vineyard today.’ And he answered, ‘I will not,’ but afterward he changed his mind and went. And he went to the other son and said the same. And he answered, ‘I go, sir,’ but did not go. Which of the two did the will of his father?” They said, “The first.” Jesus said to them, “Truly, I say to you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes go into the kingdom of God before you. For John came to you in the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes believed him. And even when you saw it, you did not afterward change your minds and believe him.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

it [christianity] teaches that you're weak if you don't retaliate

It does not.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Usually it does. At least now. If you haven't been to a mainstream church in the past 5-10 years you may not have seen it. The current doctrine is "meekness is weakness". These people think the gospels are weak and impractical, even sinful, and only read the Old Testament and fake letters in the new. Ironically they've become obsessed with the "natural order" and evolution, and think survival of the fittest is a God-ordained process. Therefore we should bring death to all who oppose us and win a prideful victory, which is totally not exactly what the Pharisees wanted their messiah to do. A newfound obsession with gender roles and masculinity may be part of the cause too, because men apparently aren't supposed to be kind or humble.

[–]Alphix 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

THIS.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What good did persecuting the lowly Jew do to Christian societies? Eventually it ended in the elite Jewish class finding its way back into the fold, or they had never left, and lived among the Christians as conversos.

To an elitist Jew, mammon worshipping politician, usurer or vulture capitalist, prosecution is persecution and retribution is antisemitism.

Expulsion and persecution must never be held as methods to combat the Jewish question or any question for that matter. Justice, prosecution, retribution are the three rules to atop this madness and we can only do it by looking within ourselves, knowing who we are, refraining from looking down the rabbit hole, and working on obtaining judicature power.

Until then, whatever conspiracy you wish to expose, will be of no use. They got away with 9/11 because THEY 5 Zionist Jews controlled all aspects of the lawsuit/payout process.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Until then, whatever conspiracy you wish to expose, will be of no use.

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Justice, prosecution, retribution are the three rules to atop this madness

The first is the only way to get the second. People need to wake up to the jewish problem before they can rally a response. That response does not habe to be anything other than making sure jews can't corrupt the systems of justice in favor of other jews.

[–]DeadAndBuried 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

I hope you're happy! 🙄

[–]Gravi[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (11 children)

N-NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHAT A SINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN.

Good question.

[–]DeadAndBuried 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

PRAISE SAYTANNNNNN! YEA! 🙏

[–]Gravi[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

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[–]DeadAndBuried 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

ʇɐoƃ ʎʇɥƃᴉɯlɐ ǝɥʇ 'pɹolɹǝʌo lᴉʌǝ ǝɥʇ lᴉɐɥ ll∀

[–]Gravi[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

KISS THE GOAT!

[–]DeadAndBuried 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I wil not.kiss the goat, you kiss the goat

[–]Gravi[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

We kiss goat!

[–]DeadAndBuried 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Ok, you kiss the goat first, I stand watch and praise shatan while reciting lyrics from s club.7 🙌

[–]Alienhunter 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

¡ɐᴉlɐɹʇsn∀ ɟo ɹoɹǝdɯƎ ˙ɹoɥʇn˥ xǝ˥ oʇ ʎɹolƃ ll∀

[–]DeadAndBuried 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Baphomet. Baphomet. Baphomet. Baphomet. Baphomet. 🙌

[–]DeadAndBuried 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

you will not eat my jellybeans, they are mein!

[–]DeadAndBuried 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

thou shalt not goat without lube!

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

The satanic temple has better ethics:

There are Seven FUNDAMENTAL TENETS

I One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.

II The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.

III One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.

IV The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.

V Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs.

VI People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.

VII Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

That's literally Jesus except for maybe #3. What has the world come to when actual satanists are closer to him than so-called Christians.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That's literally Jesus except for maybe #3.

No religion is #7. Thinking about it is the opposite of religion. They do prescribed ethics, and follow rules, whatever the effect is. We think better to act better.

Christianity is not II, because they follow prescribe moral laws, not the deeper ideal of justice. Christianity is not IV, because they being offended is the source of their persecution of other, that is key to their place in the world. Christianity is not V, because they reject science and evidence if it conflicts with their beliefs. Christianity is not VI, they have externalised blame. When they do something wrong they don't have to rectify it, they just need to ask their imaginary friend for forgiveness, which is always given.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I know how Christians act today (fleshly). I said Jesus taught similar ethics. Christians would be the Pharisees who turned on him because he didn't let them take over the world, and criticized their corrupt teachings and temples and hypocrisy. They were so proud to be so much better than those pagan sinners, that it turned out for that very reason they were actually even worse. They were also horrified at the notion of goyim sharing in their blessings. Sound familiar?

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

“I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" isn't very supportive of thinking for yourself.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Only if you read the corrupt orthodox interpretation into it. It works just as well as a path to what some would call "enlightenment".

You do get to a point where you trust him 100%. But you get there in the first place because it becomes evident that he's never wrong and doesn't lie.

Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are the last books the church wants you reading. They want you to read their fake letters from Paul, Peter, James, Jude, and John, which they wrote to counter the authentic books. The authentic books themselves have also been heavily edited and added to. In the 2nd century Luke was missing the first whole 3.5 chapters. The church covered this one up by claiming Marcion wrote the shorter variant by cutting out material, even though Marcionites used various different gospels (some resemble Mark, Luke, or John). Matthew was significantly shorter and different (which is why academics see a missing "Q" source), and evidently John also. And don't even get me started on Paul. It is entirely evident based on the structure and style that a huge percentage of his letters is actually interpolations, especially in the really long ones Romans and 1 Corinthians (which explains why they're way longer than letters were in that culture). And yes I mean in the real ones, not even counting the complete forgeries. Expansion isn't always a bad thing and it was the norm back then, but there are some things that were obviously added by the church or some other sect with an agenda.

[–]Gravi[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

They're atheists but with extra steps in believing big Jay's preaching's.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Still, the whole point of Satanism is to counter Christianity, even if they don't actually worship the satan archon.

[–]Gravi[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (59 children)

I was talking to the priest of a baptist congregation I go to, today I wore my baphomet jacket and when I walked to do other things I took a look and my jacket and was shocked a bit that he didn't notice or at least didn't say anything about it.

That got me thinking about Satanism, the LaVey one, I am no Satanist but I do find these sins rather interesting and personally I've tried to follow some of these, as in to not commit them, for example,

Herd Conformity, Pretentiousness, Solipsism, Self-deceit, Counterproductive pride.

Hell I try to follow most of them at this point.

[–]LarrySwinger2 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (54 children)

You're on a slippery slope, a lot of these people are paederasts and spooks. You'd better quit this shit and read the Bible instead. It's a good source of ethics.

[–]Gravi[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (39 children)

Reminder, I am in Europe and am unable to contact them nor am I interested in contacting them.

And also I've told in chat at least that I have no further interest in LaVey satanism except for some things that are interesting for me.

I shall read the Bible one day, but I do not deem it logical nor my source of ethics, I've formed my own that are a compilation of many experiences and other things.

[–]LarrySwinger2 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I guess I misunderstood the above post then, I thought you were talking about a Satanic congregation. (There's various occult organizations present throughout Europe, so it wouldn't have surprised me.) Yes, a lot of priests want to be hip, that's why he may not have had an issue with it.

It's good that you've formulated your own rules for proper conduct. At the very least, read the Bible to become cultured. It's also great literature.

[–]Gravi[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Alright, I edited it a bit to make it more clear.

I haven't heard of any occult in my country.

I've got a lot of literature to read and I have some different bibles passed on to my mother, some newer, some about 100 or more years old.

[–]Alienhunter 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

There's several breeds of satanist.

There's the occultist types doing goat sacrifices and what not. Who actually worship Satan directly.

There's the intellectual Satanists who see Satan as a liberation type figure and believe in the absolute supremacy of the self over any kind of god like authority.

And finally there's the primary group of satanists you see in modern culture, who are more a parody of religion than actual worshipers.

The thing is, while I fully support the idea of studying satanism, as with the tree of knowledge you must learn what evil is to be able to know what good is, all the various threads of it are for fools and idiots.

The literal satanists who actually believe in and worship Satan believe in and worship a lesser spiritual being whose existence is tolerated by god in the same way one may tolerate a gnat in their house until it's time to squish it. They are idiots.

The intellectual satanists who don't believe in god fail to see the purpose of the Satan allegory and the allegorical significance of god. Satan rages against the natural order of the world and is destroyed. We can as well rage against the physical reality of life to our own doom.

And finally while I can appreciate the parody of the final group making fun of the church, as indeed the church should be mocked where mockery is due, those kind of satanists take it far beyond the joke to the point they become the joke themselves.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The intellectual satanists who don't believe in god fail to see the purpose of the Satan allegory and the allegorical significance of god. Satan rages against the natural order of the world and is destroyed. We can as well rage against the physical reality of life to our own doom.

As usual you have it completely backwards. I can't believe how easily simply switching the labels can change someone's beliefs. Anyway there's a certain evil figure in the New Testament who rules over the world. Called "the god of this world" or "the ruler of this world". See if you can figure out who this god is.

Early Christians even believed in a figure known as the demiurge who either created or hijacked the creation. This is the god who had to be appeased with ransom, and he is also referred to with the term satan on a number of occasions. Yes satan is actually a term meaning "opponent", not a name. Obviously God does not have to pay a ransom to himself. And just take a look at the world and what you call the "natural order". It's fundamentally evil, rotten to the core. And you're worshiping that instead of following the golden rule?

[–]1Icemonkey 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (27 children)

Morals come from wisdom. Wisdom comes from God.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (26 children)

Try Natural Law.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

Natural law is demonic

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

Natural law is demonic

1,000,000% BULLSHIT

It's fucking nature, and you just called all of your mythical god's creation demonic.

Try learning about it before you literally demonize it. Fucking retarded.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

Nature is demonic and is run by the god of this world, who is also known as "Satan". This is what ancient Christians believed and it's in the New Testament. Why do you think all the pagans religions worship it? Now we're trying to flip the labels so Christians can be corrupt and well-meaning people will be tricked into doing the will of the devil.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

You're fucking retarded and so is the concept of "God".

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Nature existing by itself isn't logical.

[–]1Icemonkey 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

The word of God is what is written in the Bible. Those writings are wisdom from which morality is born. Where in nature is the word of the creator and the wisdom and morality written?

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Bullshit. I just wrote that. I am one of God's creations. God writes bullshit through his creations.

Look up Mark Passio Natural Law and learn something.

Fuck God.
Fuck authorities.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Fuck natural law. Nature creates nothing but suffering.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Natural Law creates nothing.
Natural Law simply exists.

Life is not a bitch.
Life is not good.
Life is bittersweet.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Life is simply bitter. 99.9% of everything that's ever happened is bad.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, the word of the Roman Catholic Church as of 382 AD is what is written in the Bible. Who gave them the authority to determine what the word of God is? In the Bible the דבר יהוה always comes to people, not from a book. And the Bible itself, in Jeremiah 7-8, says that the Torah, which is part of the Bible, has been corrupted or is even a complete forgery. So it literally calls itself corrupted. And since the Bible cannot be wrong, this MUST be correct.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I would recommend researching how it's been edited over the millenia. Because the differences may shock you. The reason the old testament is so horrible is the new simply hasn't had nearly as much time to be corrupted.

[–]Gravi[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Of course, that is one of the more interesting things I want to know, because it could not have been the same over so many years.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Torah and Paul are probably the worst. They're to the point where the majority of the content is forgeries.

[–]Gravi[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I could ask the priest to whose congregation I go to about it.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The priest isn't going to give you anything credible. 99.9% of Christians fall for something called Biblical inerrancy, the idea that the Bible is exactly the word of God without error. They completely made it up, and it's funny because the Bible itself says the lying pen of scribes tampers with it. The Bible was also created by Rome in the 4th century, not Jesus in the 1st.

[–]Gravi[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I asked him about it, he told me that god has also written the bible, thus it cannot be corrupted and also that he coordimated people to write it, so just as you said.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Show him Jeremiah 8:8. If he tries to deny that it's referring to our books of "Moses", show him Jeremiah 7:22. You must use an interlinear or a very literal translation here, because almost all Bibles alter this verse precisely because it's so damning to the concept of Biblical inerrancy. But it indeed has God denying that he ever gave commandments which are in the Torah! So there's no way around it, the Bible says the Bible is corrupt. And since the Bible can never be wrong, this HAS to be correct.

This is the kind of stuff they don't want you talking about and get mad if you do.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

One half of it is. The other half is vile.

[–]LarrySwinger2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

I wouldn't call the New Testament 'vile' exactly.

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I just mean editors mixed in a whole bunch of crap over time.

[–]DeadAndBuried 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Leviticus 25:44-46

“‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves."

Deuteronomy 22:28-29

"If a man finds a girl who is a virgin, who is not betrothed, and he seizes her and has sexual relations with her, and they are discovered, he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives."

[–]LarrySwinger2 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

You are looking at the texts through a modern filter. They're both moderations of the situation before. The Leviticus portion limits where slaves may come from to outside nations. This reduces the prevalence of slavery, and unites Israel. Note that slavery was everywhere during antiquity and nobody saw abolishment of slavery as even remotely feasible.

The Deutronomy portion prevents raped women from remaining unmarried, because men would only marry virgins at the time. And fines obviously combat the crime.

Therefore, both laws are indicative of progress for the time.

[–]DeadAndBuried 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Progress then does not deter from being vile today, as was the implication of prior comment, no?

[–]LarrySwinger2 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

No, it wasn't. We aren't talking about today; these laws stem from oral traditions that developed during the 13th century BCE. You're seeing it through the lens of a modern, radically individualistic point of view, that's why it seems vile to you, but that isn't objective. What passes for progressivism today, on the other hand, is a real source of villany.

[–]DeadAndBuried 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Why would I proclaim to deny the fact that the stories in both the old and new treatments are vile when they are? I hold a very low opinion of all religion, religious folk, religious figures, religious texts and all who are featured in them. They were vile then and they are vile now, as modern progressives are vile. You cannot claim they were not vile before due to being progressive only to vilify modern progressives for the same ideological nonsense. Religion is vile, and it is not merely my personal opinion but a general understanding that religion is, and has been a constant cause of harm to individuals, groups, nations and every person who comes in contact with them. There may be some positive outcomes as a byproduct of religion but this is not the rule.

[–]LarrySwinger2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Argumentum ad populum.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

What's funny about this is Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John all portray Jesus as having many of the same complaints.

[–]Alphix 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Why would you wear a Baphomet jacket while not being a satanist? I know you're not, but...

[–]Gravi[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I bought it a couple of years ago cause it looked nice and it's held up very well, good quality.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

[–]Gravi[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I wanted funny goat jacket and I got funny goat jacket, t'was years ago.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Interesting post. I agree with some of these values. Not being stupid or a herd animal in particular I would say I believe in

I will say Anton seems to fundamentally misunderstand solipsism. A solipsist would not project onto others and assume they are similar, they regard anything outside the self, including other people as potentially figments of their imagination. A solipsist makes NO assumptions as to the nature of other people, not even assuming they actually exist outside of your mind.

Source: I am a sage, a scholar and a master of philosophy, but also

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solipsism

[–]Gravi[S] 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (5 children)

Did you just.... quote wikipedia like socks did????? YOU MUST BE A SOCKS ALT!

I think it just goes to say that everyone can make things up or interpret things the way THEY see and preach it hard enough unto others and they'll follow, nevertheless rather fascinating things he's written and done, if I can get hold of any of his works.

I'd say that's one of the sins I do not fully understand and don't believe in because it didn't make sense to me and still is a concept I've yet to get better grasp of.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Nah that was my own quote, I really do read philosophy all the time, I just wanted to link to something so people can see I am not just making this up

[–]Gravi[S] 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Effin socks alt.....

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

If you wan't to better understand Lavey's philosophy, I recommend looking at the sources he cobbled it together from.

This particular work, Might is Right, by Ragnar Redbeard was particularly influential. (its short, like 100 pages)

https://ia803002.us.archive.org/8/items/mightisrightragnarredbeard_201908/Might%20is%20Right%20-%20Ragnar%20Redbeard.pdf

He was also influenced by some occultist figures, but I am much more familiar with the philosophical sources he borrowed from

[–]Gravi[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Well now I have another book to set out on a journey to find in my country because I like physical books.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah me too, but I'd have to spend a ton of money to replicate my online library with physical books, maybe someday i'll complete it. I commend you on your physical library collecting

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

When I rebelliously read the Satanic Bible in high school I found it to be tedious common sense.

"Do as thou wilt," was already done everywhere.

/s/Buddhism is better.

[–]Gravi[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I've yet to find any of the more "controversial" books in any of the book stores, not libraries because I hate borrowing things.

I fixed the head.

[–]Alphix 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

All these appear valuable.

[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The notion that stupidity is a sin is a cruel error. People don't control their intelligence, any more than they control their height or eye color.

[–]WoodyWoodPecker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

GOAT FUCKERS!

[–]Gravi[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Love thy goat as thee love thy neighbor!

[–]WoodyWoodPecker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

GOAT LOVE!