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[–]passionflounder 8 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Yes they're excellent- because the wokeists who follow them become weakened and gradually cull themselves over time.

[–]1Icemonkey 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Red meat is not why America is fat. It’s the processed shit food people eat that your body doesn’t know what to do with, along with soybean oil.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

goyslop. i know a kid who got fat eating carbs and no meat.

[–]weavilsatemyface 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

We eat too much meat. Too much meat is not good for us, not as individuals, and not as a society.

But we should eat some meat. We are omnivores, and we are adapted to eating a diet of mostly plants, some meat, and not too much sugar. In other words, the exact opposite that we do now: massive amounts of sugar, lots of meat, and aside from cereals, almost no plant matter.

Eating meat has another benefit. Herbivores can survive and thrive on poor quality land good only for pasture, allowing us to extract high-quality protein from land which would otherwise go to waste. With eight billion hairless apes on the planet, we cannot feed them all on a vegan diet.

If people want to adapt a vegetarian or even a vegan diet, for ethical reasons, or to show off their status, it is possible to remain healthy if you do your research and are very careful about eating a balanced diet, which is hard but not impossible.

But it is better to be an ethical omnivore:

  • Eat mostly vegetables and some grain.
  • Reduce your meat and fish consumption.
  • Insist on sustainably caught fish.
  • Insist on humanely farmed and slaughtered animals. We're not savages.
  • No excuse for animal cruelty.

[–]legly 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

what if animal cruelty makes my weenie hard

[–]hfxB0oyA 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Water isn't a limited resource. The land that most cattle graze on isn't suitable for growing crops.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Water isn't a limited resource.

Maybe not in Ireland, but across much of the world it really is. Drought is a constant threat across Africa, Australia, much of South America, many parts of the USA, the Middle East, some parts of Europe, and central Asia.

Sure, there are trillions of gallons of salt water in the oceans, but you can't drink it, you can't grow crops with it, and desalinating it is not cost effective.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

😮

[–]Evola 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Commercial farming kills untold amounts of small animals so they're just virtue signalling and ignorant.

Instead of just having a balanced diet with less meat that they perceive as bad they go against all of their values by importing from across the world just stay alive.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Red meat is one of the biggest reasons America is over 33% obese.

I really don't think this is true. If Americans consumed the exact same amount of sugar and red meat, but replaced the same calories obtained from wheat, corn, or rice with potatoes and other tubers, we would see dramatically less obesity.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Red meat is one of the biggest reasons America is over 33% obese

Wrong. Red meat consumption has gone way down since the 1950's, yet obesity is much much higher, hmmm. Sugar and seed oils and other processed foods are the causes of obesity and heart disease in the U.S.

[–]RottenCorpse 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

No.

[–]ID10T 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Red meat is one of the best sources of nutrition. Personally I feel best eating red meat once a week. I was vegetarian for a decade btw.

[–]Airbus320 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah but you need to consume some red meat time to time like once a month to stay healthy

[–]Rah 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It weeds out the retards, but drags along guillible, well-meaning people too.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

veganism for me led to being sickly and emaciated, so no.

[–]WoodyWoodPecker 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

In the USA we don't eat real food. We eat processed food, and food products. There is a reason why human beings developed weapons to hunt. Vegan means bad hunter. Hitler was Vegan.

[–]legly 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

if hitler was vegan im vegan

[–]chottohen 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

[–]chottohen 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I haven't read it yet, but I'm interested in Lierre Keith's The Vegetarian Myth. She's an ex-vegan environmentalist who argues pro-animal agriculture is better for the planet.

[–]ID10T 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I know some vegans who are healthy and seem to do quite well on the diet. There are also people who are healthy on a 100% meat diet and actually can't eat a lot of vegetables. Every body is different. You need to try different things and find the diet right for you. And know that as your body changes with age your diet will probably need to change as well. Whatever you do, don't eat a lot of fake meat. That shit is processed garbage.

https://understandingag.com/artificial-animals-part-2-the-hidden-dangers-of-processed-plant-proteins/