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[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

The biggest hurdle to SaidIt being civil again is the fact that /u/magnora7 refuses to let the community be involved in how it's managed. He has everything to gain and nothing to lose, because he's still owner with veto power - which is fine. But he refuses to open things up like a petulant egotistical selfish child. There are no goals, there is no future, it could go down at any time, people don't have a say, people have no stake, and people don't give a fuck.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

How many members does saidit have? (approx.)

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Not sure if this is the best measure: /s/SaidIt says "42,007 readers", I think meaning subscribers, many of which are alt aliases, many never used and many long since abandoned.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

So maybe a few hundred active. What about a subsaidit that is more tightly modded? Ie if comments aren't relevant then they get removed? Or would that be considered censored?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'd say around 200. It's cozy, you get to know everyone here.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

What's the difference between a moderated SaidIt and a community-regulated Lemmy instance?

The community would have a say in the Lemmy instance, be automatically civilized and respectful, be openly self-regulating, be decentralized (shared, mirrored, backed-up), be worth promoting, and people would have a stake in it's success and future. This is a template that could be forked. Separate but together.

If someone coded a bridge tool content on the Lemmy instance could be mirrored into a limited-access SaidIt sub, and vice versa. And/or perhaps a MultiShare™ browser addon that could could post in multiple places at the same time would solve the issue (ie. with one click post the same thing to Lemmy, SaidIt, Reddit, Communities.win, Twitter, Gab, etc.).

Essentially people must demonstrate they're worthy of being invited to avoid STABs (shills, trolls, and bots) - thus SaidIt can be the filter to draw from and for free speech, fun, and nonsense.

Removed, regulated, and/or censored comments can be openly determined by the community, rather than the capricious arbitrary decision of a single moderator, admin, or owner - and critically precedents can be established in documentation. Few hard rules (no porn, no advocating violence, no spam, no forum harm) and many soft guidelines with as many examples as necessary. Critically, all of these concepts would circle back to a foundational constitution-charter-mission statement, along with goals and a roadmap - all openly developed by the community.

Problem users get 3 strikes recorded in open logs, and after each triplet their account will be locked for 1 week, 1 month, 1 year, then for good if they just can't behave. All strikes expire a year after their inception. People would have time and space to learn, grow, and improve.

These are my first draft ideas that folks could start from, improve, and further develop.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

make a sub called /s/TrueSaidIt and be the king of academic no trolling debates. be that mfing change.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Not a bad idea.
For further responses take your pick:

  1. "/s/BeyondSaidIt, practice for the next realm."
  2. /s/YetAnotherSub ?
  3. So much work... I can't even.
  4. I'm working on me.
  5. I'm actually quite busy with editing.
  6. I built a bed stand today and have more projects lined up.
  7. And have to moderate it?
  8. Then what would I bitch about.
  9. All of the above.
  10. None Of The Above (now the Direct Democracy Party)
  11. I'll get a forum going one of these days/weeks/years.
  12. I'll get the discussions rolling this week.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

hahaha number 8!

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

PS I was referencing this, in case you didn't know it existed. That's why I picked the name. https://old.reddit.com/r/TrueReddit/

Redditards will instantly know what truesaidit is about.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

TIL. Thanks.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Worth a try imo.. I don't know any of the tech