Will it eventually be necessary to leave all Western countries?

submitted by Ponderer from self.ConservativeExodus

A lot of people assume they can have homesteads in the boonies and that these will be safe indefinitely. Do you think they are correct? Or will Western countries become so aggressive and addicted to power that they clamp down even on these far-flung freethinkers?

Would it be vital to move to a country that is less domineering, or at least less competent at enforcing its edicts? Or would most conservatives in Western countries be okay, if they know how to keep their heads down?

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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think everyone who is concerned about the fate of this future should be a lot more tough. You can't win if you are playing the Gentleman's game and the other side is using all tactics and means available to them. Did Libertarians or Conservatives ever consider that early on or shortly after the country's founding?

[–]rubberbiscuit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

At this point it certainly looks like yes all western countries will have to be abandoned. Living in the boonies; well, that is where white nationalist terrorists will be living, so they will rid the country of these folks early on. I think this is why so many have moved to Mexico, which doesn't seem capable of enforcing these sort of rules.

It does open the door for a country like Mexico, or Uruguay, or Russia, whoever wants to see an influx of pioneering, productive, tax-paying and patriotic population, if they just offer a taste of freedom for these people. All will gain.

[–]trident765 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The American government has demonstrated that it views American human rights as being secondary to the interests of pharmaceutical companies. Inject yourself with one of the brand name vaccines, or you lose your job and are prevented from getting another one. We will see shortly whether the US government has the means to enforce its corrupt edicts. If people really start losing their jobs over the vaccine, this is a sign that it is over for the US.

[–]IkeConn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

How can you have a home in the boonies if Bill Gates just bought all the property.

[–]Ponderer[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He didn't exactly buy all the property...

[–]SerpensInferna 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

If things get that bad, there probably really isn't any 'keeping your head down'. We've seen, in recent history, that millions of people who don't toe the party line can be detained, imprisoned, starved, executed. Living isolated out in the boonies may even be more dangerous than the relative anonymity of a town or a small city.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yep. "Hide in plain sight"

[–]Ponderer[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I wish I knew more history about this, specifically relating to stuff like Communist regimes. Surely there were some nomads in Siberia or whatever that the Politburo didn't deign to notice?

Living isolated out in the boonies may even be more dangerous than the relative anonymity of a town or a small city.

This is also a concept that interests me. I suppose it depends on how strict things get and what's demanded of the average person.

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I guess take a lesson from 1984, if you act as lower class as possible you get away with anything because of low expectations.

In the soviet union the murdering gangsters were considered above middle class political prisoners who said one wrong thing because their crimes were seen as being driven by social injustice so not their fault.