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[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But if you model too little, you also create false models. And this creates false ideas of reality. Or false ideas of a situation.

Like a climate model not including solar activity and clouds

[–]FlippyKing 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Modeling is so abused I stop reading a paper if it is based on/about/relying on a model for analysis. But you can crank up a computer (the big fancy ones still use cranks to start up, right?) and let it do the work, go get coffee with an attractive student and publish something quickly. I think p hacking in psych and over-reliance on modeling in the "hard" sciences are analogous.

[–]IridescentAnaconda 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

[–]zyxzevn[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Sadly, that is just a statistical analysis.
It is not a solution, as scientists will just add another level of statistical manipulation.

Here is a good article about how the medical industry uses statistical manipulation:
https://www.bmj.com/content/376/bmj.o702

It is probably more profitable to manipulate statistics than to make a better medicine.

[–]IridescentAnaconda 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sadly, that is just a statistical analysis.

I realize. But pharma companies are obligated to justify via 'real world evidence' that the drugs work as marketed, even after regulatory approval. This is supposed to help solve the problem. Biopharma needs more advanced statistical methods because human beings are, you know, messy.

It does demonstrate that some people are aware of the epistemological problem.