GC: If GC achieves it’s goal around trans issues, what happens to trans people?

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[–]peakingatthemomentTranssexual (natal male), HSTS[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I feel like as someone who transitioned further back than most people here, insurance covering surgery is a new thing. I had to save money for it and so did everyone near my age I knew (some of those middle age transitioners with established careers could afford it, but tbh, I don’t even consider us the same thing). It meant I had to delay into my 20s and delay going to college to be able to afford it (and also traveling to Thailand where it was a little more affordable, although I feel like it also might be better there because of some of the horror stories I’ve read). I’m just not sure it’s right to force other people to pay for it.

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It’s a necessary medical procedure so it should be covered by insurance. The only reason I could afford it was partial coverage by insurance. I still went into substantial medical debt but otherwise it just would never have happened.

Can you really not see how horrible it is to have someone trapped with that thing just because they are poor?

[–]peakingatthemomentTranssexual (natal male), HSTS[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I’m not saying it isn’t really hard. I hated having to wait and it was so, so tough to date before I had surgery. I wasn’t rich and was barely surviving at points sleeping in other people sofas. I just feel like it shouldn’t be something we force other people to pay for because it’s controversial. I feel like it makes people resent us if we forced them to support our issues.

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Are metrics more important than treating dysphoria? It’s a necessary procedure so insurance should cover it, just like birth control should be covered even though some people don’t like it.

Without Insurance I could never have had surgery. It broke me financially just to get an orchi that was about 10 percent of the price of my eventual bottom surgery.

I’m not worried about dating since that’s not a thing for me but it’s about peace with your own body.

[–]peakingatthemomentTranssexual (natal male), HSTS[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

What metrics do you mean?

Surgery isn’t medically necessary the same way things that fixing things that are actually wrong with your body are and I feel like it makes sense to respect that distinction.

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As in appearances or respectability. And you actually believe surgery isn’t necessary?

I can’t fathom a post op trans person saying that. Why’d you do it then?

[–]peakingatthemomentTranssexual (natal male), HSTS[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I do care about how we are viewed as a group because it would affect me if I was out. I didn’t say it wasn’t necessary. Surgery improved my life and allowed me to feel comfortable with my body in a way I never had before. I’m just isn’t the same as needing your appendix removed because it’s going to rupture. There isn’t anything physically wrong with us. We have a mental illness.

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Just because it’s mental doesn’t mean it isn’t necessary. Like a surgery to remove a tumor pressing on a nerve bundle. You wouldn’t die but you would hurt less so that doesn’t make it not medically necessary.