GC: How would you feel if people insisted changing language of men's health?

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Such as people insisting r/erectiledysfunction use the term "people with erectile dysfunction" instead of "men" or "people with prostates".

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[–]ColoredTwiceIntersex female, medical malpractice victim, lesbian 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And taking away men's rights and spaces?

Then all this movement will be stopped on an instant.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Mostly I think it’s odd that the “inclusive language” only seems to be aimed at female functions...

Like, there are people who complain about the words “dude” and “guys” (as in “hey guys!” being said to a group of people),but it’s very rare to see examples of people throwing a tantrum over male bodily functions being referred to as male bodily functions. I’ve even seen ads for “pregnant people and fathers”... wonder why that is...

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

But what if we started demanding inclusive language for male functions?

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Why haven’t “we”? Why do it to women but not men?

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think people would just laugh and keep on talking how they always have. And a lot of men would probably peak.

[–]worried19 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm against it no matter which sex it's affecting.

I have a strong suspicion men wouldn't like it, but that would be their fight, not mine.

[–]CatbugMods allow rape victim blaming in this sub :) 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don’t care, but it sounds silly. If men get bothered it’s up to them to say so. This feels like some weird gotcha about ‘people with uteruses’ being dehumanising but men feeling dehumanised isn’t feminisms problem.

[–]IceColdLover 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I would not care because men are not an oppressed group, and doing so would not in any way impact men's access to healthcare nor have any tangible impact on them other than mild inconvenience.

[–]DistantGlimmer 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I don't think I'd like to be referred to as a "penis haver" or something especially by TRAs in the name of "inclusivity" but as others have said the context is completely different. Men do not need our own spaces for safety and there isn't a wider campaign to colonize men's spaces and erase reference to men in language and law. So sure someone in isolation referring to "people with prostates" is no big deal but it's different for women right now.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What if there was a wider campaign to colonize men's spaces and erase references to men in language?

[–]DistantGlimmer 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think this kind of language would bother me a lot more personally if I thought it was part of a wider campaign the way it is with women right now.

[–]FlanJam 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not GC, but it seems needlessly pedantic to me. I get its supposed to be inclusive, but it makes the language to awkward and cumbersome. I'm not super strongly against it or anything, but personally I don't care to change the language.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I’m not gc obviously but this is a thing that is happening, you know that right? In particular I’ve seen statements about how “people with prostates” should get screened.