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[–]loveSloaneDebate King 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Not qt or trans, but this is ridiculous (not you making the post, but the content of the post).

How do you “experience” a gender when you aren’t treated as that gender because you are the opposite “gender”.

And what does gender have to do with sex characteristics?

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

And that thing about western culture- where So many “effeminate” men are celebrated and beloved, from André Leon Talley all the way to James Charles? Really? It’s our society that makes a minute portion of people think they were meant to be the opposite sex/gender even though the vast majority of effeminate males and masculine females are fine being exactly what they were born?

It’s such bullshit. Their distress doesn’t come from society- it comes from within. I cannot believe we are now gonna have to pretend that someone wants to reshape their genitals because of society. None of this makes any sense.

[–]ColoredTwiceIntersex female, medical malpractice victim, lesbian 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't think that women asking for FGM for "first marriage night", feet binding and similar are all coming from within and not from social pressure and norms of said society. Same with "third gender" in cultures, it is often outcasted class and mostly made from conversion of gay men. Doubt it comes from within as well.

[–]peakingatthemomentTranssexual (natal male), HSTS 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It’s very worrying how the criteria has changed in the last decade or so and it feels like it’s only getting worse. Like, someone who just meets those last two wouldn’t have anything in common with someone like me. I don’t like what had happened since words like transgender starting being used instead of transsexual. It isn’t even about the same thing anymore.

I feel like DSM IV made sense. I don’t see how we can feel the way we do or did towards our bodies and not be considered disordered in some way. Like, I know I’m broken and at peace with that. After I transitioned, I was able to live fairly normal life though and that’s all I really wanted.

[–]catoborosnonbinary 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

DSM-IV-TR Gender Identity Disorder Not Otherwise Specified was a nice home for nonbinary people. I know one senior psychiatrist who prefers the DSM-IV-TR gender categories. That said, DSM-5 Gender Dysphoria made sense to me as a unifying concept. There is still a long way to go to describe the observed range of clinical presentations, and increasingly blurry categories seem to undermine the value of the ontology.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I prefer the distress component as contained in the DSM. The idea of transitioning Yup to gender “euphoria” has always made me deeply uncomfortable.