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I agree with much of what you're saying. I would like to ask though, how is alleviation, even if of just one part, not considered treatment in your opinion? I'm not sure how you feel about psychiatric medication and whether they have a place in medicine, but if a medicine only alleviates some symptoms and has been most effective for someone, would you not consider that treatment? I'm just curious of your opinion and would like elaboration into your views on this if you don't mind.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What I mean is, I’m focused on the whole mentality of “I’m a woman/man, but born the opposite sex” or even the “gender identity” thing that we both don’t believe in. Transition doesn’t make someone no longer believe that, it doesn’t cure the mentality. So I’m not saying it doesn’t treat anything, I’m saying I don’t think it treats enough. I feel like, if you (not you some hypothetical “you”) transition but are still encountering circumstances and situations that trigger dysphoria, the treatment puts you at risk of harm or discrimination, or if someone can’t acknowledge that they are not truly a woman/man, then it seems like there’s still issues that need to be dealt with. I’m fine with transitioning (though the effects of long term CSH and the risks and potential complications of the surgeries are scary to me), I just wish that the patients would be required to acknowledge some truths before being operated on.

But I think my biggest issue is just that, someone would have to either have the right bone structure or a lot of money for other procedures to effectively socially transition, and that leaves a lot of trans people in an in between space, it’s hard for me to believe that visibly trans people are much happier post surgery, and that makes me wish there was more effort out into alternative treatment, because the current treatment leaves many not much better off. I think someone like you should have done exactly what you did (since there’s not really another option, but I think it should be for extreme cases only- and even for the extreme cases certain things should be acknowledged and accepted before the procedures and prescriptions start), but it seems to be the “go to” treatment for too many people. It’s concerning to me that the treatment for a mental condition relies so heavily on physicality. I feel like it sets up many people for disappointment. Idk if that makes sense, sorry