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[–]BiologyIsReal 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I don't think trans identified people are delusional, at least not in a clinical sense. I think deep down they do know they are not the opposite sex, they just wish they were for a variety of reasons. And that is why they so keen on redefining words, etcetera so as not to aknowledge their biological sex. I supose that is why QT are protesting the use of "delusional".

Grixit has disallowed describing trans people as delusional in other post recently.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I agree that trans people aren’t delusional, in general.

I’m saying that the word delusional could apply to specific people, trans or not, or specific aspects of an ideology or belief. I would never call someone delusional for being trans, or even for arguing that there’s a sex spectrum.

I was asking if in specific circumstances, the word could be used if it’s applicable. I know we can’t because “feelings”, but it seems like it doesn’t really prevent any one from saying something is delusional, we just have to find a way to articulate that something is delusional without using the word. Which, imo, doesn’t really accomplish anything because the sentiment is the same.

I’m not arguing with Heim about using it here, I accept that we can’t, I’m just debating whether or not the word is an insult in general

[–]BiologyIsReal 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I guess whether the word is an insult or not really depend on the context. I don't think is always an insult.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree. But I think that when it is an insult, it’s being used incorrectly.