What if we made demands from men instead of women?

submitted by womanual from self.GCdebatesQT

What if we turned men's facilities (i.e. restrooms, changing rooms) into everyone's facilities, and women's facilities will be exclusively for people born female who want to be away from men? What if we demand r/erectiledysfunction remove the word "men" and change the language to "people with prostates"? What if we ban men's only programs and consider it discrimination? For instance, My Brother's Keeper is a program founded by Obama for helping young men of color stay on track. What about young women of color? What do men of color need that women of color don't? If anything, they are more privileged than WOC because men have privilege in every aspect of life.

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[–][deleted] 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is an interesting thought experiment. The cumulative evidence re the scope and viciousness of cancelling female academics, journalists, authors, performers, commentators, and social media account holders compared with men committing the same social "transgressions" is pretty self-evident.

This is why I agree with those who claim that there's a core of misogyny in TRA cancel culture -- the silencing along sex-based lines has been consistently unequal. My guess is that self-ID infringement into sex-segregated or sex-prioritized spaces would never have progressed as far as it has if the policies, practices, and demands focused on incursion into male spaces the way they've done wrt female spaces.

[–]FlanJam 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've also heard someone suggest relabeling men's sports to an open sports category where anyone can compete, and keeping women's sports exclusively for (natal) women. Interesting idea but I doubt QT will take it. They'd just argue transwomen ARE women and belong in the women category. Its clear they don't care about fairness at all, since many will argue transwomen should be allowed even if they haven't taken any hormones whatsoever. Affirming gender identity takes top priority for them.

I'd also have some qualms about calling it an open category, because it makes it sounds like the default category. Whilst women's sport would seem like a side category. Men's sport is already prioritized and treated as default, but such a relabeling may further enforce that.

[–]BearRowland 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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