Will We Really Go Back To Normal?

submitted by joy1090 from self.GenderCritical

I know tra's have been wrecking so much damage in our online spaces, policing groupthink and even female-specific language to the point of colonizing our platforms, groups and boards. In the real world, transgender people, especially the tims, have been getting away with so much, such as participating in women's sports and invading women's spaces such as prisons and healing centers. Heck, they're now allowed to change their sex on birth certificates! Just thinking about this makes me livid to the point of being hopeless.

I'm not really an optimistic person, but if you would put your thinking hat on, do you think we'll we ever go back to normal? Will we ever repeal laws such as changing the gender on birth certificates and push for sex-based spaces instead? I'm tired.

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[–]FuriousPenguin 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm a pessimist myself. But even if I wasn't I'd say there's no hope. Unless the left is made to understand that women will say what they want with their votes they will always think of us as doormats and side with TRAs. They'll only stand by women if they lose the women's vote but no one is going to stop voting for them. Hopeless. It's definitely hopeless.

[–]macaron 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

What country can they change their sex on a birth certificate?

It's not going to be soon. The transgender movement is part of a larger woke movement that is extremely tyrannical. You aren't allowed to talk about reality if it deviates from the narrative (feminists can certainly be guilty of this too). It's tangled up with post-modernist thinking where they believe language helps construct reality. So saying transwomen are women makes it so. And it's tangled up with identity politics/political correctness, where the most victimized, most marginalized just by these huge group labels like trans gives them power. Identity politics might have done some good at some point, now it's over stepped itself and instead of treating people like people, you are forced to see them as their race, gender, sexuality, etc. Right now these groups have a lot of power over the culture in western societies.

I don't think it will be soon. The grip that identity politics has on society right now is so strong. You can't talk about the actual reality of biology because trans people are marginalized. Their inner "truth" is sacred and respected by woke people. It doesn't matter if it's not real. Some of them even think logic, science, the whole enlightenment is White man's invention and that other culture/races have their own sort of truth that should be respected. (yes, that is stupid and pretty fucking racist, sexist)

It's deeply ingrained. The turnaround isn't going to be soon. But biology is real and sex is immutable. It doesn't matter how much they change their bodies or bully others into saying transwomen are women, they won't be real women. When their bones are dug up their dna will say male.

[–]our_team_is_winning 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What country can they change their sex on a birth certificate?

I believe all of Canada and parts of the USA and UK is pushing for it but not there yet. Do we have a complete list? Can we put a list in a FAQ?

[–]worried19 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There was a couple last year who legally transitioned their four year old child. This was in the United States.

https://i.redd.it/e52aey4su0r21.jpg

The mother's blog:

https://archive.fo/BG6gw#selection-595.479-595.573

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I personally don't think we'll be going back to normal. I see us pushing through to a new normal, one that's re-affirmed some level of good science and hopefully a much better understanding of how deeply TRA is steeped in actual mental illness.

Reasoning -- when TRA was all about consenting adults undergoing transition, it was seen as a reasonable liberty. (I'm in the US, so it's pay-for-play.) Even when the medical/psychiatric gatekeeping fell away and adults began transitioning on demand, still, they were seen as adults making personal life choices.

Puberty blockers, adolescent clinics, Tavistock in the UK -- these are all game-changers. Levels of attention are being focused on the anti-science and malpractice implications in ways that never happened when only adults were transitioning. The implications for US Title IX issues for supporting girls in sports is beginning to sink in.

I feel we're collectively waking up to the horror, but it took the medical abuse of minors to do so.

[–]bluetinfoilhat 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think in the next couple years we will see a huge backlash as people outside the LGBTQ and feminist community become aware how horrible the trans movement is. Someone like JK Rowling being attacked and Halle Berry is helping as nothing they said was even offensive.

[–]trannychaser 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What did Halle Berry say/do?

[–]bluetinfoilhat 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

She was considering playing a trans man.

[–]greenbeans 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I have faith that good sense and science will win out.

Here in the UK they have recently put the brakes on self ID (although I believe Scotland has gone ahead).

Our National Health Service has also recently changed its advice from recommending puberty blockers as basically harmless, to now warning parents that their children might have lasting damage if they take them.

I feel that most of the general public here would be shocked to learn what TRAs are actually pushing for. JK's treatment online has started to open a few eyes.

[–]kardamom 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Heck, they're now allowed to change their sex on birth certificates! Just thinking about this makes me livid to the point of being hopeless.

i mean, at least in germany it has been this way for over 40 years. and since a few years it's even possible for intersex people to have none or a "diverse" entry for the sex on their birth certificate. where's the harm in another person having a birth certificate you don't like?