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[–]materialrealityplz 65 insightful - 4 fun65 insightful - 3 fun66 insightful - 4 fun -  (39 children)

They can't even explain their ideas. I've also got 'google it' when I try to press them - like when I tried to press them on why JKR is transphobic. 'Google it' they tell me. (I want your opinion I said, and then got silence)

[–]venecia 51 insightful - 2 fun51 insightful - 1 fun52 insightful - 2 fun -  (34 children)

I've noticed it too. ''Educate yourself'', ''google it'', ''TWAW full stop, no qualifiers, period''. I get that kind of response with sealioning neckbeards because you're genuinely sick of being asked to explain everything to people who won't listen, but EVERYONE gets shut down with the same playbook.

[–]CleverNickName 46 insightful - 2 fun46 insightful - 1 fun47 insightful - 2 fun -  (32 children)

It's been bothering me a lot lately where I've paid more attention - what is their argument? They have a statement, TWAW, and they spew instant knee-jerk hate to any and all questions let alone dissent, but it's been a loooong time since I've seen any attempt at explaining gender ideology. You'd think it warrants an explanation. I can explain sexuality - not well, I'm an idiot after all, but I can.

I see explanations about mental health, racism, capitalism, political spectrums, history, linguistics, absolutely everything, all over the place. They don't even bother explaining dysphoria anymore, the one thing they, on the surface, even have sort of in their favour.

[–]Wrencer 35 insightful - 2 fun35 insightful - 1 fun36 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

Their argument is "I feel like a woman, so I'm a woman" lol

And now they've decided you don't need gender dysphoria to be trans anymore. And some are toying with the idea that trans women weren't born male

[–]VioletRemi 15 insightful - 4 fun15 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

I asked few of that what is "like a woman" means, never got an answer. Or even if got, it was just bunch of stereotypes like "I like cooking, looking pretty and when men wanting me".

[–]basetenprefix 11 insightful - 9 fun11 insightful - 8 fun12 insightful - 9 fun -  (1 child)

As a lesbian, I agree that one of my main female feelings happen when men want me. /s

[–]VioletRemi 7 insightful - 8 fun7 insightful - 7 fun8 insightful - 8 fun -  (0 children)

Agree. And even in bed with my gf we are posing just in case some man watching us! Just like in porn.

[–]Wrencer 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

"I got catcalled in the street, now I feel like a real woman". Also, how the hell is it forbidden to criticize the super misogynistic and stereotype vision they have of womanhood ?? I always feel like I'm walking on eggshells when I'm discussing LGBT issues these days anyway. I'm now scared to speak my mind

[–]lavender_menace 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Scaring women into submission is what they want. If enough people are bullied into silence they hope they become more accepted by society.

[–][deleted] 13 insightful - 6 fun13 insightful - 5 fun14 insightful - 6 fun -  (12 children)

Ok, I gotta ask. If they were born with xy chromosomes, a penis and testes, how exactly were they not born males?

Please don’t say google it but I will...

[–]bellatrixbells 20 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

One of them told me that the other day. He repeatedly refused to explain to me what a woman was, alleging that he didn't have to justify his existence to me.
Then explained that he was assigned male but that he was in fact female and therefore a woman (because he knew it).
At that point I just quit before I got banned from Reddit. Seems like it never crossed his mind that his reducing our whole biological existence and social experience as a result of this biological reality to some all-inclusive concept was insulting as fuck to us.
What's even weirder is he was post-op... So if you're a female why did you need surgery to become a woman ? How do you become a female if you always were one ? None of this makes sense. All they care about is themselves and their own comfort, they have zero concern nor respect towards us. Sometimes it seems like they're the ones not recognizing our existence. It sounds like we don't have feelings and fears too. This movement is completely dehumanizing woman.
Sorry I went off topic. Hahah

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Not off topic at all. It is a part of their delusion and what we all have had to deal with. Great user name, btw!

[–]bellatrixbells 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hey thank you so much _^ Like yours too, for real. It's delightfully simple. :)

[–]neveragain 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

The main "argument" they use for being biologically female and always being biologically female from birth goes like this: "trans women are women" -> "therefore, a trans woman's body is a woman's body" -> "a woman's body is biologically female" -> "trans women always knew they were women" -> "therefore, a trans women is biologically female, and was thus from birth".

The above is fantastic proof that the TWAW statement will cause your brain to rot.

The other commonly used argument is based on the pseudo-science being peddled currently about biological sex being a mysterious unknowable spectrum. Basically, because all women's bodies are different (shape, size, hormone levels, chromosome outliers), we can't really say what a woman's body is, they all have barely anything in common after all, so therefore a trans woman's body may as well be biologically female. The differences are tiny and miniscule and biological sex is a mystery we are only just beginning to possibly maybe unravel!

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Full-scale gaslighting. It is really amazing to me that they were allowed to run roughshod all over Reddit to the point they were able to kill subs that said: this is bullshit.

[–]Wrencer 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I tried to find something to back up that claim a while ago, but all I could find was some allegations that their brains were female lol

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Did you ever play the telephone game as a kid? Where the circle keeps whispering a message to each person in turn and by the time it gets to the last person, the message is totally different than how it started. It’s kind of like that for TRA science.

If validated peer reviewed studies ever back up their claims about just about anything, then I might believe something that they say.

[–]Wrencer 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That is never going to happen, trans women were born male, and their delusions won't change that

[–]luckystar 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They were obviously. If you want to see a (piss poor) explanation of why some trans people believe they are biologically female, look up Riley Dennis on YT, he has a video on this exact topic

[–]Anonimouse 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I got one of these in the wild. Response was that the person almost certainly wasn't tested for xy before being asigned male, so it's just based on the penis and testes, and now we have the degendering of the sex organs in the TRA rhetoric.

[–]basetenprefix 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Slogans work really well to rally people. Think about "Make America Great Again". What does that even mean? What was great? Why is it not great anymore? It's so subjective. But it's also quick and catchy and you can chant it and put it on merchandise. It doesn't require you to think very far or critically. "Transwomen Are Women" has been really effective in this same way.

[–]EvaWumben 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm new to this, and years ago, I honestly saw TWAW as a just polite validation of a few people, mostly people I knew who were being bullied. Then the entire internet hopped on board, added a ton of delusional subtext, and went literally into the definition of mass hysteria. I gave up.

[–]basetenprefix 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was also on board. I've had direct interactions with two transwomen and they were both fine, we just gamed together, nothing weird, then never really talked again. Didn't think much of it. I'm very much in the camp of people can do whatever they want if it's their business, if it isn't hurting anyone. I didn't think the transgender movement was hurting anyone. I know differently now.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Terf has been very effective, too. If anyone challenges their narrative in any way, they just get abusive and call the terf dog whistle. Most people don’t even know what the acronym means, but by now, they sure as hell know it is something bad.

[–]fuckingsealions 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

My friend sent me the Meghan Murphy debate today (older):

It is long and thorough, but it's still pretty much "I am a woman because I say I'm a woman." The audience sure was pissed though!! Also missed a lot of Meghan's definitions, which they rebutted mostly with "nuh-uh."

Transwomen? More like tautologywomen amirite? (No I am not.)

One thing that was interesting that came out of it was Murphy's opponent telling a member of the audience who did not want her young daughter trapped in protected women's spaces with men that they have a right to BE safe, but no right to FEEL safe. I thought this was interesting in light of the idea that hate speech is violence. If, according to this TiM, no one has a right to FEEL safe, then why can't women just say what we wish about anyone?

[–]Spikygrasspod 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Tautologywomen is beautiful :D

[–]Spikygrasspod 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The argument is that the best way to protect trans people is for everyone to pretend they're literally the opposite sex. But people tend to not go along with this when it's stated openly, so they get there via the sleight of hand that is 'gender identity'. Unfortunately, trans rights activists are, with the collusion of the medical industry, simultaneously vastly expanding the category of trans to accord with this unfalsifiable object, 'gender identity'. In practice it is a subjective mental state evidenced by an act of declaration. Again, people are unlikely to go along with this (especially the transing of children) if it's stated directly, so there is more obfuscation. Obfuscation works better when combined with threats, accusations, and silencing, though, so the movement has adopted much of the language of social justice movements to make their goals seem legit and to make critics seem like villains. But yeah. The basic position is that any man who says they're a woman is literally a woman and should have access to all women's rights and spaces, and be legally and socially treated as though they are literally a woman. This is in direct opposition to women's separatism, a crucial tool for improving women's lot in male dominated societies.

[–]spinningIntelligence 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

You're not an idiot; you have a clever nickname, right?

[–]Anonimouse 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I feel like sexuality is going to go the same way soon. This morning, I came across a similar "google it", "educate yourself" in response to hypersexual asexuals.

[–]MezozoicGay 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

hypersexual asexuals

Not sure how it could possibly work, if at all. They are very agressively and activelly not wanting to have sex?

[–]Anonimouse 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I believe they are extra horny, but not attracted to other people. So they fap, a lot.

I educated myself.

[–]MezozoicGay 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

In front of mirror? I thought that is what TRA are doing.

[–]Anonimouse 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I believe they are extra horny, but not attracted to other people. So they fap, a lot.

I educated myself.

[–]bellatrixbells 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Also "educate yourself" usually means "read what trans organizations want you to say and how they want to behave and drink it like a nice big glass of Kool Aid and we'll stop insulting you.
Uh uh yeah right no sorry I have a mind of my own. You wanna convince me that who I am isn't worth squat, you're gonna have to bring strong arguments to the table.

[–]momiji 19 insightful - 5 fun19 insightful - 4 fun20 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

The emotional and mental labor of explaining why men in dresses are valid should not be on the most oppressed minority on this planet, didn't you know that??

[–]-thedarkhorse- 15 insightful - 8 fun15 insightful - 7 fun16 insightful - 8 fun -  (0 children)

It is like when I get told to read the bible to cure me of my atheism. Reading it was part of the problem.

[–]Wrencer 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"Google it!! I'm not here to educate you !! Terf !!"

[–]yousaythosethings 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I find that it's been really effective in catching the attention of bystanders when you ask them for what they specifically mean when they say X (for example, "cis" or the definition of "woman") and whether they think that gender dysphoria or being transgender is a medical condition if they are saying that hormones and surgery should be covered by insurance and stuff like that.

It shows bystanders that these TRAs have know idea what they're even talking about or advocating for and are operating purely on emotion and lazy thinking.

[–]venecia 45 insightful - 2 fun45 insightful - 1 fun46 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

They can’t even fathom that a woman can learn things outside their rhetoric and come to a rational conclusion different than their cult spew.

This is the one thing I cannot stand about liberal feminism, and why I've shed any ties with the term feminism altogether.

Every space you find wants to put you in a box. Educate yourself, they say from the ivory towers of university sociology classes and all the spare time in the world to invent things to be upset by. It's just unthinkable that actual oppressed women don't see the problems they do, and they need to be educated. The poor little dears. If only they enlightened themselves enough to sympathize with the plight of manspreading.

[–]SpatOuttheKoolaid 25 insightful - 2 fun25 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

"Oh yeah, I was indoctrinated into that too. Until I educated myself. Once you peak, you don't go back."

[–]VioletRemi 12 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Seems that they are not realizing, that educating will actually make person peak much faster. And non-educated people are their best bet!

[–][deleted] 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Educate yourself, they say from the ivory towers of university sociology classes and all the spare time in the world to invent things to be upset by. It's just unthinkable that actual oppressed women don't see the problems they do, and they need to be educated.

This made my day. Thank you. ☺️

[–]OvarianSynthesizer 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Pointing out to them how classist and ableist they're being tends to quiet them...

[–]littlearmouredone 33 insightful - 1 fun33 insightful - 0 fun34 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I've seen people warn others not to read that blog post she wrote. They know it's well thought out and reasonable so they don't want people to realise what she's saying makes sense. They say it's fear mongering and hateful, but it's really not

Turns out you can make a point fairly well when it's not all vitriolic "choke on my girl dick terf" ranting

[–]Feather 26 insightful - 2 fun26 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The only other time in my life, before these last few years, when anyone told me not to read something because it might be convincing (I've seen a few people say that about JKR's stuff - "She makes it sound reasonable BUT IT'S NOT so don't read it") was when I was a kid and a fundamentalist Christian relative told me never to read any non-Christian literature since non-Christian literature might convince me.

[–]BrendaFricker 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm the same. I know cult-like thinking when I see it!

[–]Spikygrasspod 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Me too. "Don't read this it's triggering*. I read it already and it's transphobic+. Read Julia Serano instead."

*a coherent challenge to your world view

+a coherent challenge to your world view

[–]momiji 28 insightful - 1 fun28 insightful - 0 fun29 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I see it more as a patronizing way of saying "we gave her a chance to repent and she didn't so she deserves to burn".

[–]Pantsfeet 26 insightful - 4 fun26 insightful - 3 fun27 insightful - 4 fun -  (14 children)

What information? All I've seen in her replies are "transwomen are women" and "suck my girldick". Very persuasive stuff. Obviously they haven't repeated these mantras enough to hit the magical GC-conversion ratio™

[–]Omina_Sentenziosa 20 insightful - 10 fun20 insightful - 9 fun21 insightful - 10 fun -  (11 children)

If you say it three times in front of a mirror, Marsha P. Johnson appears and turns you from TERF into a TRA.

[–]Pantsfeet 10 insightful - 5 fun10 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 5 fun -  (4 children)

Lol! If that doesn't work get a rosary. 20 TWAWs every time you clock dude in a dress, 100 for every heartbreaking transwidow story read, etc. For guidance, seek out a man true and honest woman to explain it in a way your lady brain can understand.

[–]hufflepuff-poet 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I went and read some trans widow stories and the things these women had to put up with from these narcissist men is maddening.

Women are told to accept so much from men in relationships but men can leave their wives if she gains weight/gets depressed/sex drive decreases and society blames the woman. 🙄

[–]Pantsfeet 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

One of my biggest peak moments was reading transwidow stories. I actually found r/gendercritical through a post on a different sub, I believe relationship advice. The wife went above and beyond to describe her terrible, abusive circumstances in a civil manner but was still torn apart in the comments. One of the few kind comments suggested she post to GC, where the feedback was incredibly supportive (and sane!) in comparision. IIRC the woman was still scared off due to abusive private messages (to be fair I'm sure this happened several times) for daring to post there and not take Reddit's original advice to fuck off with her needs and 100% embrace her asshole "wife" and status as a lesbian all along. Anyway, I think someone linked the mumsnet threads or something similar and I decided to check out the rest of the board and continued to lurk after (I never had a reddit account).

[–]Omina_Sentenziosa 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

How dare you forget the flogging when you have the wrong thoughts?

Shame on you!!!!!

[–]Pantsfeet 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Obviously flogging is reserved for lesbians vagina fetishists.

[–]SpatOuttheKoolaid 4 insightful - 12 fun4 insightful - 11 fun5 insightful - 12 fun -  (0 children)

...but you might have to wait until the next day for Marsha to show up.

[–]RoundFrog[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

That’s the thing about Marsha p Johnson! He was a GAY MAN and NEVER called himself trans. Ever. If you listen to interviews he gave, in his own words several times, “I’m a gay boy”. The TRAs literally misgendered someone for their own propaganda.

[–]Omina_Sentenziosa 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Oh, I know. But they consider him some kind of Messiah who created LGB organizations and rights, fought for women's spaces, and probably invented the fire!!!!

Who better than him to magically convert some infidels?

They are full of hypocrisy and double standards, just look at the way they use "cis": they claim that self-identification is sacred and everyone should respect it, but when someone tells them not to call them cis, then fuck them, the labels they want to use come first!!!

[–]MezozoicGay 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

By their logic - Jesus was wearing dress-like cloths, so Jesus was trans as well and created whole world. So everything exists only because of transes.

[–]Omina_Sentenziosa 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You joke, but I remember reading a stupid piece a couple of years ago about how Jesus and/or Mary were trans.

So yeah...

[–]MezozoicGay 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Seems nowadays every joke has only a grain of joke.

[–]SpatOuttheKoolaid 11 insightful - 11 fun11 insightful - 10 fun12 insightful - 11 fun -  (1 child)

"You know, I didn't see you as a woman before, but your telling me to suck your girldick really convinced me! That's exactly how women would respond!. I've seen the light!"

[–]venecia 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

lmao I love you

[–]songoftheworms 25 insightful - 4 fun25 insightful - 3 fun26 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

It's really weird to me that so many putative adults are so incapable of understanding different people can encounter and fully grasp the same information yet - quelle horreur! - come to different conclusions about it. Has their overall failure to launch been so profound that they never even developed theory of mind?

[–]CommercialNewspaper5 21 insightful - 4 fun21 insightful - 3 fun22 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

It's such an annoying game they play: framing it like their position is the educated one and that opposition to their ideology is only ever the result of ignorance.

[–]Wrencer 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Or ~ bigotry

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It worked on Reddit though, didn’t it? How they got the wholesale buy-in from owner(s), admins and mods is something else.

Did no one with any power talk about it or were they all just too darn woke?

[–]hufflepuff-poet 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Unfortunately TRA has hitched itself onto LGB and "progressive" politics despite being regeessive af.

It sucks how much actual leftists have gone along with TRA ideology... it goes directly against a material analysis of sex-based oppression, but nobody even questions it.. and if you try to your ostracized.

[–]luckystar 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was a staunch ally before researching this topic -- and by researching and I do mean by listening directly to them: watching YTers like Riley Dennis and Contrapoints, lurking on the various pro trans subreddits, joining leftbook FB groups that discussed trans issues. The more I learn the more I realize it's all bullshit.

I highly recommend the FB group "Sounds like you need to be educated on transgender people", and subreddits such as egg_irl and trraaa. You don't need to link radfem sites to people. If they listen directly to what trans activists are saying they realize that it is BS. Most progressives are going along with it because it doesn't affect their personal life and they have a binary view of the world where there is a "good" and "bad" in every argument and "transphobe" means "bad". Every time I've shown somebody the Riley Dennis video on 'genital preferences' it peaks them lol

[–]Wrencer 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Have you girls seen the posts on r/actuallesbians about burning HP books ? Or rewriting HP as a trans boy ? Scary

They're always like "educate yourself". Well, you sure as hell isn't educated about biology, buddy

[–]EvaWumben 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, I was studying this years before these kids were born. I'm an expert in my own sex based oppression. I've politely validated trans friends for years, but it doesn't work anymore. Part of educating yourself is also deprogramming from social media slogans, which is basically the Wizard of Oz trick of pulling the curtain and having someone simply point out "but they're not women." We all KNOW this. In our bones. As if women haven't been gaslit about our anatomy for.....ever. We know. We know. And so does JK.

[–]shveya 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The other day a twitter tim kept saying I was uneducated and needed to pick up a book and learn biology, because I told him that transwomen aren’t women. These kids are brainwashed to believe that they have science on their side, but they start choking if anyone dares ask them to explain their pov.

[–]Overdrive 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The sad part is the massive wave of negative that has come her way. People aren't actually listening or reading what she has to say before denouncing her. They are blindly following the very vocally offended. People are calling her phobic but they haven't actually read her tweets! They are going off of what others are saying!

I guarantee that most people do not actually care. They see someone call her phobic, so they go "oh she's phobic" and move on with their day. But Jesus the woman, like many of us, have looked into the issues surrounding the movement. We've come to our own conclusions and we hold our own merit in this. We've got skin in the game. The little kids who are pushed into surgery. The female athletes being pushed to the side. The women who think, wait. If gender doesn't matter, why go to such lengths to flaunt it's stereotypes?

[–]Delia 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think many of them are mentally unhealthy, I have been around activists all my life, gay, lesbian, women, union, peace and no one is irrational and as hateful as this group. To be honest with you, to query your sex at a young age would make you an unhappy person anyway I think. The only nice ones I read are the detransitioners, who are just lovely young women. Occasionally I read a positive reasonable trans person, but it is rare.

[–]AngryRadish 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I am so sick of this post truth age we live in. Thanks to the internet, now everyone has an opinion and all opinions are equal, except for the ones that are bigoted. The truth is that not all opinions are equal. Some have evidence and context and some don't, actually that's the difference between opinion and critical argument. It's rather telling that all their "arguments" consist of conversation-ending catch phrases, with absolutely no basis.

[–]valleyoftherogue 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The problem is it isn't opinion to state men can't be women and vice versa. It is material FACT that is being assaulted as "bigotry" all because a bunch of sexual fetishists want to be able to practice their deviant sexual acts in public. To heck with women's rights and safety.

[–]MezozoicGay 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In science, scientists all the time challenging even the basics to re-test it and check if it stands the time. Even something basic as formula for speed or density is challenged yearly. Asking questions is what makes progress and freedom. While here we have the opposite - no questions could be asked, any word that is not approved marks you as enemy that need to be eradicated. It is regress and authoritarism.

[–]bellatrixbells 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Their whole ideology is made around hate and violence. Their sense of worth seems to come almost only from putting others down, either for not being woke enough or for imagined transphobia. Even among themselves there doesn't seem to be a positive climate at all. It's always about being nasty and mean. Seems exhausting.

[–]RoundFrog[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I read a de trans story recently where he said being in the trans discord was just a circle jerk of self hate, suicidal talk and toxic thinking that just kept being told was “valid” and never actually being helpful.

[–]PostmodernJukebox 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

they think thier opinon is the correct answer so anyone who disagrees hasnt learned yet. unfortunately for TRAs opinions dont have correct answers and statistics dont care about feelings. ;)