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[–]fuckingsealions 41 insightful - 4 fun41 insightful - 3 fun42 insightful - 4 fun -  (7 children)

Ooh this person from the comments is SO close to getting it:

What they don't realize about teaching their kids being transgender is a "trend": if anything it'll encourage kids to "try" being trans since it's just a "trend". They're inadvertently being the 'brainwashing kids' influence they're so terrified of, solely because they're so obsessed with proving trans = bad.

This transtrender shit reminds me of DARE back in the day. DARE didn't make drugs sound dangerous or something to be avoided, it looked fun as hell, we got a day off school to look at all the different types of drugs and I can't think of a single person that was ever dissuaded by DARE. In fact it usually went the other way around- hilariously it felt more like being DARE'd to try drugs.

Yes poodle and Mermaids/genderbread curriculums is the new DARE and will pass out of fashion as well. They refuse to look at the numbers Shrier found in terms of it being a craze. Also I know some of us can say this til we're blue in the face, but I don't hate trans people. Lordy.

I love what she said on Joe Rogan... If trans people have "always" been secretly lurking for their moment to come out... Where are the 40, 50, 60+ year old women becoming Tifs at these same numbers? Are young people really that much "braver" than older women?

[–]Hard_headed_woman 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

With teens and young women, ROGD is how they opt out of the difficulties of being a woman.

With older women, EVEN if they did have dysphoria and wanted to transition, I just don't see most women being that selfish. Most women wouldn't do that to their children, imo.

[–]fuckingsealions 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I agree with you, and I think that older women also have enough experience in the world to know that it's no escape.

[–]MarkTwainiac 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Most older women have a healthy wariness of the medical and psychiatric establishment and Big Pharma as well. Older women also tend to be aware of the preciousness and precariousness of good health, so they're less likely to put their health at risk the way trans people do so willingly and casually. Plus older women usually have long outgrown the childish habits of mind that are involved in transmania - such as magical and wishful thinking, shallow lookism, spending hours mirror-gazing, constantly comparing one's self to others, and believing that "the grass is always greener" and that human biology is inconsequential and can be overcome and denied by identifying out of it.

[–]ThisSiteIsUnusable 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Older women also tend to be aware of the preciousness and precariousness of good health, so they're less likely to put their health at risk the way trans people do so willingly and casually.

This is a big one. Children and teenagers, if everything has gone as it should, have no experience of the kind of problems they're setting themselves up for. They're at their peak or near their peak ability to just handle things, physically. They can eat like crap, not exercise, not get enough sleep, drink too much, sunburn and just kind of... be okay, in the short term. "Brittle bones" and "vaginal atrophy" and "hypertension" are just words. They don't have the context or, bluntly, often the cognitive ability to actually understand what they're asking for. They just see the thing they want (being more like what they imagine a man to be) and want it, now. Because they're kids.

It depresses me. I know so many women who only got into mountain biking or thru-hiking or a martial art in their 30s or 40s. They've almost all said that apart from the fun of the thing itself, they like how much it's made them appreciate what their bodies can do, how much happier they are now than in their 20s when they were focused on how their bodies looked. A lot of these kids who are going on "puberty blockers" are simply not going to have that option. Their bones won't be able to take it.

[–]Thatstealthygal 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And.... we've just grown into ourselves. We know we're not men, we just sometimes like masculine things, imagine ourselves being men at times, but know we're women.

[–]questioningtw 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And why were there so many butch women back in the day--but are now suddenly trans? There were surgeries for trans men even in the early 1920s. Trans women were just focused on more...but trans men did exist. And this is the heart of this stop questioning transition comes from! People shouldn't feel like they have to transition because they just don't fit in. And it does seem like drug companies want that sweet money and don't care if they are hurting people.

[–]questioningtw 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And both DARE and Mermaids rely strictly on emotions. DARE wasn't bad because they wanted to warn against drugs--that is a good thing! They were bad because they went about it all wrong. Drugs aren't bad because bad people do drugs; drugs are bad because they often ARE fun and you can become addicted and destructive on them. There is nothing wrong with being trans. However Mermaids DOES act like being trans is fun and that anyone should accept the fact that you are trans no question.

[–]Anandamide 32 insightful - 3 fun32 insightful - 2 fun33 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

The comments are...so hateful. It's honestly a bit disturbing, how focused they are on demonizing the "TERF", the other, while crying that trans ppl just wanna live their lives. There's not much analysis or anything but calling radfems fat and unshaven, etc. If they can't be us, they'll try to erase us, I guess.

[–]sudd3nclar1ty 28 insightful - 1 fun28 insightful - 0 fun29 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I get a very conservative and men's rights entitlement vibe which just baffles me for a supposedly oppressed demographic. My suffering taught me compassion, not the other way around.

And for people who want to live a non-normative lifestyle, they are really judgmental. The only commonality I can sense is hate for women.

[–]Anandamide 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Same. I've had a fair few people on Twitter and elsewhere also say that GC is a right-wing movement, but that doesn't appear to be accurate at all. Pure projection from people who can't see past the ends of their own noses. It's like despite claiming so loudly that they are and always have been women, our very existence as natal women exists only to remind them of what they truly are not and never will be and the hate is absolutely real.

[–]yishengqingwa666 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The trans cult is and MRA group in a dress and a bad wig.

[–]courage2courage 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Lol top comment has 400 upvotes just for saying "This is actually VERY concerning."

No effort to say why. Just a paraphrased "YIKES".

They live off the yikes.

[–]questioningtw 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think they think teaching feminism means reading them Woman Hating by Andrea Dworkins. When no, teaching feminism means teaching them there is nothing wrong with being a girl.

[–]RedditHatesLesbians 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is insane. One of the replies to a top comment about body acceptance is like "oh you trying to make sure your kid doesn't end up trans??" These people are so self centred. I can't think of a more egotistical group. What about eating disorders? Accepting your body in a world where women are always up for scrutiny based on their looks? Loving their features, realising they don't need plastic surgery or make up to be beautiful? But making little girls feel beautiful in a world that profits in making us feel ugly is BAD right? They act like teaching body acceptance is preemptive conversion therapy! Radical feminism doesn't revolve around them.

[–]questioningtw 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Oh if I have a daughter I am totally teaching her to ignore shit about what girls should be and be her own person. Isn't that what good parenting is? Honestly, I would be deeply concerned about a small child saying they were trans. And i would be horrified at parents saying they have a trans child and the kid is say 5. It actually scares me that they think it is ok to push children into transition even if ti is pronoun changes and wardrobe.

[–]denverkris 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Reading some of the comments, lmao. Their ideas of what GC ppl think are so bizarre.

[–]Sineadsiobhan 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I read Rachel Rooney’s book to my daughter and at the end of the book, I was like, “This book is transphobic? WHERE??”

Also she’s absolutely darling on twitter!