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[–]malleus_maleficarum 30 insightful - 2 fun30 insightful - 1 fun31 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I have no political home and never have: I'm simply a woman. I likely disagree with a lot of other women on a lot of various topics, but I believe that being female is the most important, indeed the only, uniting characteristic necessary. I'm here because we all have that in common and it has shaped every aspect of our lives and people who are not women will never understand it. And if we do not unite we will be once again be bulldozered by men and corporations: our human rights, our boundaries, our bodily integrity, our independence...

I support abolishing the notion of gender, which is impactful to society so I talk about it.

But I also loathe cats and support the abolishment of twinsets, which is only really impactful to me so I don't talk about those items. :)

[–]GrendelsScaryMom 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I love cats and cardigans, and believe that men and women do have some fundamental differences: namely, some virtues and vices are more likely to appear more strongly in one sex vs. the other, regardless of upbringing.

We should most def bicker and argue and make it REAL PERSONAL. Respectful disagreement and discussion of issues like grown people is unpossible! (At least that is what I have learned from reddit and twitter)

[–]malleus_maleficarum 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Up until about 4 years ago I'd have called myself a 2nd wave feminist. But re: your point, it's gettin' personal. There are negative connotations fermenting for me around the label of 'feminism' due to purity tests, etc., and once I got into my 30's I realized that I don't do well with -isms.

[–]oofreesouloo 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm exactly the same as this lady!

[–]aldoushuxleyghost 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I hate labels beyond I am a woman, an adult human female. But since you asked, 2nd wave feminist, GC, and here because ... My rights as a woman have collided with transwomen (ie men) trying to muscle there way into all our spaces and take the very language I describe my life and struggles. We need to organize and push back.

[–]Anandamide 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm just a woman. I like men, politically don't really fit in anywhere and am not overly concerned with the labels used to describe me. I am. Reason, logic and science are my driving considerations. I think women and men should have single sex spaces available to them, no one should be pressured into having sex with anyone they don't want to for whatever reason, and human sex is binary. No speggs. Big supporter of free speech (say your peace, so I can crush you with facts) and interested in any well-reasoned takes.

[–]OrneryStruggle 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't really call myself anything but while in radfem spaces I try to align myself with radfem stances as much as possible. That is, if there's ideas I have that are not really in agreement with radical feminist politics, I tend to keep them to myself in radical feminist spaces.

I have stopped wanting to label myself as part of any political/ideological group in recent months since I think there's a lot of purity testing and expectations of conformity that go along with that basically always. I don't want to delimit my beliefs in that way since I'm reasonably young and they're frequently changing. I'm here because I support women and women's liberation generally and I am pretty incensed by the censorship of r/GC, although it was grating to me in the last year or so and I had stopped posting there for the most part.

[–]GrendelsScaryMom 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I am nominally a cultural feminist, more or less. I don't fall into line with 100% of any feminist ideology.

[–]Moirawr 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think some of us discover radfem ass backwards. Years ago I was libfem, didn’t really know what radfem even meant. Ran into gender cynical idiots who directed me to GC, and I was so offended by what radfems were saying about men I was banned lol. I bet many people here stumble in the same way, agree with GC, but don’t read any radfem lit, so inevitably we have a hodgepodge of women that know sex is real, but otherwise we’re not a very uniform group since literally everyone knows sex is real. On tumblr at least I see lots of people strongly GC but will say they’re not radfems or don’t agree with all of it or whatever. Radical feminism is action, not purity of thought, so with that in mind, beyond donating to some women’s charities, participating in radfem communities and reading a few books, I’m not sure if I can call myself radfem without activism to go with it.

It’s troubling because obviously we want everyone in this sub to understand radical feminism. Sometimes too many GC libfems congregate on a thread before the radfems get there with class analysis. It’s important that we all have the same understanding while at the same time not alienating too many women.

So thinking about all this I realized it might be a good idea to organize a sort of weekly book club thing. The sidebar says to read all this stuff, and since we were (are?) getting lots of new members it would be a better way to sort of ease them in. It was quite shocking, as a libfem, to hear “feminism is for exclusively for women” when you’ve been hearing for a decade that feminism is about working together to help both sexes, and everyone is beating you over the head to be nice above all.

[–]salty-tomorrow 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There’s a book club starting on spinster, I think.

[–]jet199 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm certainly rad fem adjacent. I like class analysis as a tool, one of many tools, but I believe it only shows one aspect and it should be used to look at class issues not individual interactions.

[–]NDG 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Politically independent, not a radical feminist. I think transitioning is a social contagion in young women and that a lot of sexually abusive men are finding cover in identifying as trans women. Women are adult human females and we deserve single-sex spaces when it comes to locker rooms, sports, and anything else directly connected to our bodies.

I lurked at the old GC sub, but it seemed more ideologically uniform than this one, so I didn’t post because it didn’t seem like it was “for me.”

[–]Amareldys 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Probably, but there's enough common ground to work with.

[–]TheOnyxGoddess 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I hate males as a class (I don't hate individual males, but I do have very antagonistic feelings to anything generally associated with males, such as the idea of working with one), but I do believe they do deserve basic human rights. Sex and gender is binary and gender terms used to address other humans by gender is girl/woman, boy/male. I don't like anything which outright disregrds science and something which will create discord in our society and butcher all languages. I joined gender critical because I seem to be suffering from past experiences of male abuse in all areas of my life before I even reached the age of 18. I don't really lean anywhere in politics, I just have labels which indicate what I hate (those labels are not relevant to politics).

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've noticed this too. I came here when the Reddit bans happened in late June. Politically I'm a centrist who leans more to the left, so this means I have people from all sides disagreeing with me. I'm not radfem, but I am gender critical and see a lot wrong with the trans community in today's social climate.

[–]Free_Pepe 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not sure what those words actually mean, but there is certainly a divide in the community's critical of the transgender crap, between the lesbians who say that "gender is a social construct"(or that the only reason we associate femininity with females is because of sexism) and the rest of the people who don't push such nonsense!