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[–]greenish 82 insightful - 9 fun82 insightful - 8 fun83 insightful - 9 fun -  (5 children)

The total absence of the clitoris is what gets me. Silly vagina owners, it's so much not about your pleasure that we'll leave out your main organ for that!

[–][deleted] 24 insightful - 5 fun24 insightful - 4 fun25 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Of course not. Just because the dress goes spinny does not mean a TiM can: --locate a G spot --know what to do with a clitoris.

He only knows how to insert penis, and grunt.

It's just another hole to the TiM.

[–]Bogos 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah wtf- especially for teen girls.

[–]MezozoicGay 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Some religious organizations and authoritarian countries, especially in the Middle East, are following exactly this logic and doing FGM to not let women have orgasms.

[–]VirginiaWolfberry 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly!

[–]Shesstealthy 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

God that's depressing. I've seen a few "edgy" TV series by younger women lately where all the sex is penetrative and from behind, and it bothers me immensely. Ladies! You shave that thing bald, he has no excuse not to go down there!

[–]quickbeam 82 insightful - 2 fun82 insightful - 1 fun83 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

I'm so glad I'm not a teenager today. Jesus Christ. I'm not sexphobic, but when I was a teenager the magazines were giving you kissing advice, not encouraging you to perform sex acts which can lead to higher rates of venereal disease, intestinal parasites and things like fistulas which no one should want. I'm not saying no one should enjoy anal sex, but I think there's already way too much pressure on women to perform this from heavy porn consumption.

[–][deleted] 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The penis is just too dirty. Even the beard swab shows high levels of organism filth. Has anyone swabbed one of those things and saw what grows on a HE plate or MacKonkey dish? BAP anyone?

I looked this up as I was typing. Spoiler alert: Streptococcus, Lactobacillus, Gardnerella and Veillonella

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/microbes-men

[–]Comatoast 13 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

Oh god, I would believe the beards having some absolutely make jesus cry type of nasty shit in them. I don't care how many oils men slosh in those things, they reek and are gross. (I say this knowing that I drop food between my tits and in my hair constantly--I am disgusting.)

Penises are on the outside though.. couldn't they just wash them before sexual activities, like hands? I mean, foreskin is like one of those sticky hands that you get from the vending machine, but it can still be washed.

[–]MezozoicGay 11 insightful - 5 fun11 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

like hands?

Some men I know not washing hands even after pooping. So what you are proposing will be too much work for them.

[–]Comatoast 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Intestinal parasites? Bleeerrggh. You gut wounded me on this one.

[–]quickbeam 30 insightful - 2 fun30 insightful - 1 fun31 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

"Eating ass" is apparently very popular in the younger demographics no matter what combination of genders are involved. No matter what kind of washing is involved that's a pretty good way to pass intestinal parasites.

[–]Comatoast 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I guess I'm a prude, I forgot about that one. What happened to people using those dental dam things? It uses to be all the rage to promote safe sex, but it looks like now we're mostly just promoting the treatments for unsafe sex or sole use of hormonal contraceptives. Maybe I'm just being dramatic.

[–]slushpilot 8 insightful - 7 fun8 insightful - 6 fun9 insightful - 7 fun -  (1 child)

That and avocado toast, if I'm not mistaken.

[–]quickbeam 12 insightful - 6 fun12 insightful - 5 fun13 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

Avocado toast is delicious and not associated with intestinal parasites. You can make it at home for real cheap too.

[–]worried19 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why the hell would anyone want to do this?

It boggles the mind.

[–]RestingWitchface 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And haven't surveys shown that teens today are having less sex than past generations? Many of the kids reading this will not even be sexually active yet, and they are already learning about extreme sex acts...

[–]PassionateIntensity 59 insightful - 1 fun59 insightful - 0 fun60 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Adult men are writing this bullshit for teenage girls. It's grooming.

[–][deleted] 19 insightful - 2 fun19 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I remember the first time I read The Fem Myst, and reading that Good Housekeeping was written by men. Of course, the torch has been passed on, and the saga continues....

[–]LasagnaRossa 38 insightful - 18 fun38 insightful - 17 fun39 insightful - 18 fun -  (3 children)

Hmmm I wonder if there is a word for the class of non-prostate owners 🤔

[–]Lingenfelter[S] 30 insightful - 20 fun30 insightful - 19 fun31 insightful - 20 fun -  (2 children)

you mean individual with cervix?

[–][deleted] 23 insightful - 16 fun23 insightful - 15 fun24 insightful - 16 fun -  (1 child)

People who menstruate, or people who have vaginas.

[–][deleted] 20 insightful - 14 fun20 insightful - 13 fun21 insightful - 14 fun -  (0 children)

wumben wimpund woomud

[–]sisterinsomnia 45 insightful - 2 fun45 insightful - 1 fun46 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

This is one of the things which gave me another mini-peak. That the clitoris is erased altogether in the picture is deeply symbolic of the erasure of the biological woman in everything.

And yes, this is a real article, and yes, it is aimed at teens.

[–]sisterinsomnia 37 insightful - 2 fun37 insightful - 1 fun38 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Considering that it is written by a self-acclaimed expert on sex, the absence of the clitoris should have made the editors immediately reject the piece.

[–]pinkpaperplates 42 insightful - 3 fun42 insightful - 2 fun43 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

While searching for the original Teen Vogue article I found a voice of reason:

Teen Vogue's bizarre anal sex article shows women are still being defined in relation to men

The supposedly progressive piece, intended for teenage girls, refers to women as 'non-prostate owners', ignores the organ for female pleasure and fails to mention any potential dangers

Not only is any potential pleasure a woman may feel during anal sex reduced to the lack of male body parts (she is a “non-prostate owner”) but the clitoris, the actual hub of female sexual pleasure, has been removed. The lack of a male body part is the focus of what defines the female body, and what is actually there isn’t identified at all.

What is this teaching the audience of a magazine aimed at teenage girls? It tells them their identity is not “woman”, but rather “non-man”. It tells them that should they consent to anal sex, their body is just a hole for the man to penetrate, and the part of their body that is most sensitive and reliable for the female orgasm is so irrelevant that it doesn’t even warrant a label. It tells them that consenting to anal sex is not about their pleasure, but about their partner’s.

What it fails to tell them is the potential dangers of anal sex. The possibilities of fissures and tears which can become infected very easily due to contamination by faeces, severe enough to need surgery, or lead to anal abscesses which increase the chances of catching HIV. By treating anal sex as an equivalent to vaginal sex, you increase the chances that your audience will not understand the potential damage they can do to their own or their partner’s body, and in turn increase their chances of becoming seriously ill. Just as importantly, teaching young girls that their identity, their value, is dependent on a man removes their sense of self and puts them outside of humanity, as described in The Second Sex by Simone De Beauvoir: “Thus humanity is male and man defines woman not in herself but as relative to him; she is not regarded as an autonomous being.”

[...]

Instead of reducing a teenage girl to her male counterpart, we should be teaching them about their biology independently and as worthy in its own right. Our responsibility as adult women influencing the next generation is to raise them up to be confident in their self-worth, and fighting against a culture that seeks to define them by their sexuality and what they can do for men. Regardless of whether they consider their vulva to be part of their woman’s body, their clitoris exists, and they are more than just a hole for a penis.

Teen Vogue’s target audience is not non-prostate owners seeking to provide sexual satisfaction to men through their anus. Teen Vogue’s target audience is teenage girls, most under the legal age of consent, who are deserving of adult women to teach them to value themselves for who they are, not by what they are in relation to men.

Here’s the Teen Vogue article, Anal Sex: Safety, How tos, Tips, and More.

[–][deleted] 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Wow in the Independent too. That was a good counter argument.

[–]VioletRemi 32 insightful - 11 fun32 insightful - 10 fun33 insightful - 11 fun -  (0 children)

Non-prostate owner

I thought I am individual with a cervix! I am confused now!

Do you own a vagina?

I am. But patriarchy thinking they own it for me.

[–]Agodachi 30 insightful - 2 fun30 insightful - 1 fun31 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

this is just like that "men and non-men" bullshit all over again

[–]blackrainbow 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Men and "the other"

[–]Terfenclaw 29 insightful - 1 fun29 insightful - 0 fun30 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

... Is this for real? This looks like something from The Onion. Also this is in Teen Vogue??? WTF

[–]FlickingMarvellous 21 insightful - 13 fun21 insightful - 12 fun22 insightful - 13 fun -  (2 children)

For just six low monthly payments, you too can own a vagina!

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

LOL I like the cut of your jib

[–]7of99 5 insightful - 7 fun5 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

Five stars. My vagina looks great and seems very durable. I keep it in a jar by the window next to my basil. It really spruces up the kitchen.

[–]Lyssa 18 insightful - 7 fun18 insightful - 6 fun19 insightful - 7 fun -  (1 child)

"do you own a vagina"

Yes, but I somehow misplaced it... Does it still count? Or do I have to purchase myself a prostata now?

Please advise.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

I have read TiMs are taking second mortgages out on their homes for these things. Insanity.

[–]denverkris 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

No, anal sex or stimulation of any kind is not fucking pleasant. Stop trying to gaslight young women into thinking that it is.

[–]RestingWitchface 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Right... for like the first 3 or 4 years that I was sexually active I didn't even know I was supposed to come from sex. Now a whole new generation is being groomed to become submissive sex objects for the enjoyment of men. The way I see information about our own bodies being withheld from women makes me think it's absolutely deliberate.

[–]MadLass 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Eh Ill disagree here. While I agree this article is ridiculous especially aimed at a younger demograph not every woman hates anal. I don't personally think there is anything wrong with it especially between two consenting adults.

[–]denverkris 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And that's fine, but the article wasn't aimed at consenting adults. And as @pinkpaperplates pointed out it left out a whole lot of very important information that young women need to know before engaging in such a potentially risky activity.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

If anal is only happening to the woman in the heterosexual relationship, I find it problematic.

[–]MadLass 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Lol wut. So she has to give anal back for it to be ok? This is definitely where I diverge myself of radical feminism how people have sex as long as its consenting and wanted isn't problematic to me.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No one is trying to police what other people do in the bedroom, especially not radfems. That doesn’t mean we can’t discuss why only the woman receives anal in the relationship when it’s the man with the prostate.

[–]worried19 19 insightful - 3 fun19 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

As if teenage girls don't have enough trouble trying to resist demands for anal sex without magazines for minors encouraging them to try it.

A decent magazine would have an article titled, "Hell no, stay the fuck away from my asshole."

[–]vitunrotta 17 insightful - 5 fun17 insightful - 4 fun18 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

I mean, I WISH I owned a vagina but it seems pretty obvious that a lot of guys (especially the pious, religious ones) want me to keep it in a safe...? and also absolutely wreck it...? And then get me an abortion...? Unless I myself want one...? I am unsure. Many conflicting thoughts. My female brain simply cannot grasp the depths of this. It is very confusing! I suppose I have a vagina but it's only for me to keep until the Worthy Man can pound it and claim proper ownership.

(Oh! Besides. What does it matter if I "own" one or not?! I have plenty of other orifices men can do their business in :) right? RIGHT? Am I doing this feminism thing correctly?) /s

[–]Lingenfelter[S] 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

[–]Comatoast 27 insightful - 2 fun27 insightful - 1 fun28 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Holy hell. Why can't teenagers just work on trying to not get caught making out in the garage? This is insane.

[–]worried19 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

There was an even worse article encouraging them to buy their fellow minor friends BDSM harnesses.

https://www.teenvogue.com/story/best-gifts-for-your-transgender-loved-ones

I shit you not:

For the proud heuxs in your life.

Ocelotls Trade Post Custom Hardware H Harness

If a few of your friends are kink positive, then perhaps they’d be interested in some new leather gear for the winter. Ocelotls Trade Post is an excellent resource for kink and fetish wear. Owned and operate by a queer and trans Native Xicano, Ocelotls specializes in customizable leather goods. Check out their etsy shop here.

"Heuxs" is slang for "whores." So now we have derogatory sexual slurs in a magazine directed at teenage girls, as well as the normalization of BDSM.

[–][deleted] 13 insightful - 6 fun13 insightful - 5 fun14 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

The sign on my a$$ says do not enter. That's a one way street my friends.

[–][deleted] 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Reminds me that post on tumblr years ago about how the clitoris is actually just a small dick. Once again man is the default.

[–]blackrainbow 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's actually the opposite, the penis is a giant clit.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The funny thing is, even though the authors have taken ridiculous pains to erase biological sex from their descriptions, they're still not 'trans-inclusive'. Surely there are 'prostate-owners' who do not have penises and testicles, for example.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

How do I know if I own a non-prostate?

[–]TurtleFuzz 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Do I own a vagina? Yes, a mid 1980s model! She's been through some tough squeezes, but she still runs great!

But seriously, that article is just so infuriating.

[–]Shesstealthy 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No. There's one in my body though. My body that I inhabit and that is not entirely separate from me as a person (soooo old fashioned of me)

[–]Immortallogic 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Teen Vogue called me a TERF on twitter a couple months ago..... this article doesn't really surprise me unfortunately.