I Stand With Sophie

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[–]TarshishJupiter 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This is sickening. I'm glad people are rallying in support.

I do have to agree somewhat with the judge in the fact that not having these vulnerable moments of confession on the web might be better for Sophie's emotional health.

[–]FlippyKing 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't think that is why the judge is doing it. The judge in some sense, maybe not a legalistic sense, is endangering that child and the judge's actions could be seen as hiding evidence of that. The judge needs to recuse because the appearance of a conflict of interest, in this case the interest of justice in the custody of the child and the interest of the judge's own role in the matter, are readily apparent. If the father is not a suitable "custodian" while these matters are sorted out, then I think the system is set up for a foster parent.

[–]MarkTwainiac 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Sorry, even if a parent or other adult thinks and claims that putting this sort of footage on the internet is for the child's protection and "own good," it's actually not - this is a form of child abuse and exploitation.

Children cannot consent to having the intimate details of their private lives, traumas and family dramas played out in front of the world.

Parents have been having acrimonious break-ups and long, drawn-out legal and personal battles over custody, visitation and matters like their children's medical care, education, religious upbringing and so on for eons. One of the first rules of dealing with these situations is to leave the children out of the fighting between adults as much as possible; don't play kids against either of their parents; and respect children's privacy!

[–]lefterfield 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, the video made me uncomfortable, for reasons beyond the abuse. I don't know this child, and don't feel like I or any strangers should know her face or anything she's said about the abuse.

[–]FlippyKing 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If we take the child's statements at face value, what non-violent options does the father have to protect the child from abuse? Sorry, but you have to put your self in that person's shoes before you can speculate about what they should or shouldn't do. At the very least no one seeing the video can say "wow, I had no way of even suspecting this was going on." The system in the case is obviously failing the child. What system? Probably many. Why is this down to which of these parents is custodian and why is this down to having to believe one side or the other? The system or systems in play here are not well reasoned and rely on authority and power not to solve the problem but to exert its own force upon the situation, and to try to wipe the internet of the child literally crying for help only helps those who abuse power.

How is the child expressing vulnerability bad? Should she get her act together and speak calmly? Should children be seen but not heard? You are blaming the victim, and even if nothing bad at all is happening to this child by the mother and her boyfriend and if it is the father pushing her to make up stories, regardless of what is exactly at play here, the child is obviously the victim. None of this is the child's fault. She has nothing to be ashamed of or feel guilty about. What ever the truth of the matter is, she can at least speak the truth about it and be proud of that and grow into the best person she can be. Silencing her will create more damage than letting her state how she feels. The judge is in fact silencing her, but not addressing her expressed fears and not addressing the alleged abuse. The difference between documenting her fears and not documenting it comes down to this: is no one on her side, or are some people in her side? Is this a case of an abuse of power, or is it a case of a system out of control with no accountability and no ability even to speak out and expose it? Is the kid and her father truly at the mercy, or lack there of, of the system or can people still us the public forum to shine light on abusive power? You are more concerned of the child's privacy as if the father is invading her privacy, than what she is alleging. What a mile in that kid's shoes and the father's shoes. If you still will insist on going along to get along with the judge's wishes then you might be the villain, playing the role of Eichmann, here.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm worried this case is being used as a dogwhistle for the Qanon crowd who are being encouraged to abduct children whom they don't have in their custody.

I'm not sure the public getting involved in the lurid specifics of cases like this is actually helpful in saving the child from trauma. It's going to create more trauma. I see this as people choosing a sympathetic symbol of child abuse – so they can think they're doing something to stop child trafficking, while continuing to ignore the rest of the problem.

[–]slushpilot 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree with you, but this assumes that the establishment media could be trusted to stick their neck out and report on these issues reponsibly by safeguarding the girl's identity and hold the courts to account. Unfortunately these judges use publication bans and legal force to save themselves embarrassment over bad rulings, and the lazy media complies.

If it's not actually the judge but the law itself that's failing this girl, then that needs to be publicly debated and changed for the good of all abused children. I'd rather not know who the girl is, but she potentially represents the case of so many. If it's this egregious in her case, how many more are too easily ignored?

You might have heard of the case in BC, Canada where a father was prevented from dissuading his 14-year old daughter from taking testosterone before she's an adult. The judge issued a publication ban so none of the specifics of the case could be discussed, and the father was forbidden to speak to the media about the court's decision to side with the daughter's wishes. Nobody was aware that this could happen to their own children, so it was an important case to discuss openly. The only way he got some of his parental rights back was by breaking the law and speaking about it.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ughm Qanon does not support that.

[–]our_team_is_winning 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

When the little girl said "I woke up and there was blood in my underwear" I lost it. WHERE is law enforcement. I couldn't watch anymore.

WOMEN ALWAYS gaslight their daughters when there's a boyfriend involved. I had THREE close female friends in my youth who were ALL molested by their mother's boyfriends and the moms turned on every one of them!