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[–][deleted] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

They're basically the same thing. Corrective rape can range anywhere from forcible rape to coercion through threats of outing her. Same thing with what TIMs are doing, can be anything from forcible rape to coercion through threats of outing her as a TERF.

There's no real difference between the two, one is just backed up by progressive activists and the other is backed by hardcore religious conservatives.

[–]The_Mad_Pirate[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I came to the same conclusion after observing their answers to rejection. My doubt was if I was missing or misinterpreting something. Thanks for answer too.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It is an interesting thing to observe. I saw some of them respond with "your reasons are transphobic/hurtful", even though they were not owed reasons to begin with and they asked for them. Use of the word "excuse" when talking about soneone's boundaries is also a clear indicator of their enitlement. Lesbians should learn to stop allowing their boundaries to be put up for debate and be more unapologetic about them.

[–]The_Mad_Pirate[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree, and they seem to be doing just that. Maybe they are just too fed up ( and Lily Cade's manifesto is basically that, an expression of anger and frustration ) with the current cover up and handwaving of those situations. I can understand where they are coming.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Right winger here as well. As men, we are quite often told that we are not owed sex and that no means no. Most of us knew it intuitively, but TIMs think they are above these rules, because of their identity and supposed oppression. Had only Elliot Rodger waited and grew long hair, he would have woke idiots coercing women on his behalf and screech at all of us for being transphobic, while also being against untransitioned incels.

[–]The_Mad_Pirate[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think it is the combination of moral and legal relativism with a false premise putting such moral and legal relativism on it's head. No wonder they get so angry when we challenge their false premise, given that false premise is what allowing them to be above the rules in the first place.

[–]Shales123 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They're the same thing. One is endorsed by religious fundamentalist the other is endorsed by gender ideology fundamentalists.

[–]The_Mad_Pirate[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's what I think too. Seems fundamentalists are always bent on "correcting" people who do not conform to whatever worldwview they fundamentalist have.