J.C. has risen from the banned.

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[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

He only intervenes when issues are created.

Usually. He intervenes with me when he wants to create issues.

You're basically showing up to a party at his house, where you habitually carry on about how the party could be better if he did XYZ.

Wrong. His private residence is VERY different. This is a public forum, like a public restaurant, store, theater, etc. If I act like an asstroll I should be ejected. If I'm bringing the goods and building the community then it's OUR shared space and earned my place. He's not the boss of me nor anyone else. Sure it's his site but it's OUR community and everyone should be free to voice their opinions, even if you are the guy bitching about the DJ. People are free to ignore that guy. People are free to tell him to shut up. I have support and criticism and everything between.

100% a dick move.

What is?

He graciously let you back in to the party, so you could dignify this gesture.

LOL. He should have never banned me, slandered me, stalked me, and targeted me with his several arbitrary bullshit rules made for me.

Let him be. Or make your own party bungalow.

The next forum will not be mine - it will be OURS. It's not "if" - it IS happening. People needed to see the problems and be motivated, unfortunately.

Doing both would be ideal.

After today the problems will be dropped to focus on solutions.

Part of the branding/propaganda/whatever I plan to utilize over and over and over again will be something like this: "We obviously have problems, but we're working on solutions." We'll need to never forget that we currently have these problems but we're not gonna blame nor dwell on them any more with grander plans for a brighter future. Some people may get bored of this if it's not creatively and interactively done well (developing manifestos, policies, rules, name contests, logo contests, etc etc etc). Ideally it should build up anticipation and a desire to finally try it out and/or outright migrate. All the while we must repair the community with hope and restore good will within it while not abandoning our history, our purpose, and our more stable resilient future.

Very soon I hope to have the others join me in these development discussions in the wide open.

Parties suck if nobody shows up, but they don't happen if there's no place to party.

Truth. I've had a handful of dismal misfires along with vast experience in the art of throwing epic parties. My nickname was "jSunshine", not earned from nothin.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Wrong. His private residence is VERY different. This is a public forum, like a public restaurant, store, theater, etc.

These examples are all private.

The analogy is legit.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Your analogy is flawed.

This site and those businesses are OPEN to the public, regardless of who owns them.

Sure it would be nice if there was no government nor regulations, but anarchy is a dream.

So we have the laws of the land, good, bad, and ugly. That means free speech technically should exist and discrimination is technically forbidden. Racist store owners cannot ban people and unless you shout fire in a crowded theater you can share your ideas. OPEN to public, privately owned or not.

I'm surprised you are taking this stance, the same but much bigger regarding the rights of government-funded Corporate Social Media to freely censor their monopoly platforms that are essentially the public square or commons.

There is virtually no lock on the door here, by choice, for anon users without any verification. A questionable choice IMO. Much different than the Corbett Report limited access forum for example, open yet private, requiring donations (or a special invitation for me) and email registration. Even more limited, my old site was just my own content with zero social media.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

Your analogy is flawed.

This site and those businesses are OPEN to the public, regardless of who owns them.

Saidit is open to the public.

Those businesses will all kick out disruptive customers.

Saidit doesn't even require you to wear a face diaper.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Yes, as I said above:

" Wrong. His private residence is VERY different. This is a public forum, like a public restaurant, store, theater, etc. If I act like an asstroll I should be ejected. If I'm bringing the goods and building the community then it's OUR shared space and earned my place. He's not the boss of me nor anyone else. Sure it's his site but it's OUR community and everyone should be free to voice their opinions, even if you are the guy bitching about the DJ. People are free to ignore that guy. People are free to tell him to shut up. I have support and criticism and everything between. "

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I'm all for parallel alternatives bro.