So much for "free speech"

submitted by TakeemtoToontown from self.Incels

Can't even post an ER video. Literally no encouragement of violence at all and apparently it warrants a "final warning". Simply acknowledging that Elliot Rodger existed is a crime. You can glorify figures like Joseph Stalin who killed millions and that's just fine, it's just politics. But for some reason, thinking Elliot Rodger had anything of note to say is just too much. Even when the vast majority of comments are trashing him, it's still not allowed.

Free speech is dead forever. Do what the gynocracy tells you to do or get crushed. Guess I'll just start writing my thoughts in a notebook like a real maniac. Or go to incels.co and have a bunch of glow in the dark naval officers looking over my shoulder. "This is your final warning" lmaooo. JFL at that fucking faggot. Fuck this website.

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[–]13k 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

LOL and this is when this website is not even remotely popular. imagine how restrictive admins will be if this site becomes popular, incels here will be easily expandable once again, thrown away like a used condom.

lol at getting warned for posting an ER video, even YT isnt that cucked.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 11 fun2 insightful - 10 fun3 insightful - 11 fun -  (9 children)

The "expendableness" of a sub does not depend on the size of saidit. We give every person and sub an equal chance under the saidit rules and that won't change. https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/j1/the_saiditnet_terms_and_content_policy/

We are absolutely not keeping this sub around here because we need the numbers, as you imply. We don't even have ad revenue so that theory doesn't even make sense. People are allowed here because they're not breaking the rules, just like any other sub.

If the inability to advocate violence and support mass shooters is a deal-breaker for anyone, then saidit isn't for them, and has never been for them. That has never changed.

But if people want to talk about literally anything else, then that's what saidit is for, and they're welcome here.

Anyway, just wanted to make that clear for the record.

[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Come on dude that's bullshit and you know it. Just admit that you're discriminating against us because we're incels. I don't see you banning posts about Muhammed or Clinton. Is /s/unrest not glorifying violence? It's a bunch of vids of people rioting.

Because we have evidence you allow other more violent things so long as it's not incel, you are a hypocrite until you explicitly confess that you discriminate against incels.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 7 fun1 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 7 fun -  (5 children)

No, it has nothing to do with incels. It has to do with praising violence, and especially praising murder. It's not acceptable to praise mass murderers on saidit. We're not budging on this issue.

[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You allow entire communities based on glorifying violence such as /s/Death, /s/Crime, /s/TheHolocaust, and /s/MMA

Here's a good specific example of you allowing a non-incel to glorify violence against Filipinos: https://saidit.net/s/Crime/comments/17ds/duterte_killing_it_again/

Why can't you just admit it? I don't think you understand. Denial, the choice you're currently making, is not having the result you want because we already have evidence that you allow non-incels to post similar things. Your refusal to simply concede that you have an irrational hatred towards certain groups of people only serves to prove you lack integrity. If you at least admitted you discriminate against groups of people unfairly, you'd be explicitly altering your value system and at least not be a hypocrite.

You're the "big powerful admin" right? Just ban us so you won't have to do any self-reflection. Take the easy way out, cuck.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

Just ban us so you won't have to do any self-reflection. Take the easy way out, cuck.

If I wanted to do that, I would've done it a long time ago. I am having the conversation with you, am I not?

None of those subs you listed glorify violence, they merely record it. MMA is a sport, you cannot compare that to praising a mass shooter.

Please respect the rules of saidit or you're not welcome to be a moderator here anymore. I'm not asking a lot here, just don't use positive language to describe mass murderers... it's really not complex.

[–]MBII 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

just don't use positive language to describe mass murderers

Why not?

[–]CrackingYs 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good luck running a discussion forum on the internet if you get triggered by an Elliot Rodger t-shirt.

[–]MBII 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Horseshit

[–]MBII 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Expendable

[–]Mogdanoff 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I refuse to acknowledge the authority of those who would blaspheme against the Saint Supreme.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (4 children)

Did you just glorify a mass killer? First warning of advocating violence.

[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Can I get a warning as well? I want to bleed before the ban

[–]bald-janitor 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Go take a shower fren

[–]PURE_ARYAN_GENETICS 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

it's over isn't it. is incels.co the last uncucked platform

[–]Big_Iron_PP 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Lmao. Incels.co is fakecel central.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

And tallfag central.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Same thing

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You can be fakecel even if you're not tall.

[–]hybristophilia 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Incels.co is probably probably surveilled by the US govt.

Maybe rgif.is could be 100% free speech, but there's almost no one there. Just Leuco and a few guys.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I just checked the site absolute cancer IT was right

[–]curryvirgin 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

incels.co is a navy psyop

[–][deleted] 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

soydit

[–]hybristophilia 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Unless I go to some extreme fringe websites or some conspiracy forums, we can't discuss anything anymore.

We can't even try to understand what pushed some everyday men to do what they did. If we do it's "advocating violence, taking the side of a killer, glorifying a murderer".

It's ridiculous. A few years ago we could talk about anything. Even on reddit there were darknet marketplaces, stuff about guns, anything. Now even the anonymous boards are being shut down.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (10 children)

You can talk about it without glorifying it. It's quite easy, in fact.

[–][deleted] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

The only way is to coerce to one opinion and one point of view.

And apparently you can't understand trolling.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

I do understand trolling, that's why I'm banning users advocating violence, and not the sub. People can't just advocate violence and then say "ah it was just a joke". That's not going to fly

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Exactly what I said: you don't understand trolling.

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

And you don't understand what's required to avoid having a website get shut down by the feds...

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The memeing about mass shooters is dark humor satire, to denounce some social problems. But surely there is a political agenda to shut this up.

So, what is required? Have you received pressure of any kind? From particular interested groups?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

GLOWNIGGERS

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The police doesn't care, they just follow orders.

It's the soylets and the lefties who push for this shit. I wanted to hear it from the admin.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Memeing positively about mass shooters is one of the ways this site could get permanently fucked up for no reason, that's why I'm not allowing it

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

did the feds threaten you

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

No, but that is what I am trying to prevent. And advocating for mass killers openly is one way to get contacted, for sure. I'd like to avoid that entire thing.

[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Jfl saidit is cucked

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

You can post anything other than advocating violence (which includes glorifying mass shooters)... if this is too restrictive for you then saidit is not for you. Otherwise nothing is going to change

[–][deleted] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Not that I would want to, but that directly goes against the idea of free speech. Like the op said, if someone posted something praising Stalin or Mao or Hitler or American pilgrims and settlers you wouldn't care beacuse they are historical figures, yet each of them genocided tens of millions. And one random guy who is a meme somehow constitutes "advocating violence".

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (3 children)

Saidit has limits. It always has. You make cogent points, but we have to draw the line somewhere, and a post appearing to praise someone who is only known for their mass shooting, is not good.

[–]curryvirgin 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Appearing to who, known to who, as judged by who? I suppose the only relevant answer to all of this can be, 'saidit global admins'. Is there fear of a host refusing service to saidit, etc., if the wrong impressions can be made by passersby of innocuous content?

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, the admins are responsible for site-wide decisions. How could it be any other way? We made the site, we draw the lines. We have been very consistent about the lines we draw.

[–]MBII 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No he's known for being a legend

[–]bald-janitor 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And you always take my name..

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

imagine making a website (saidit) to escape reddit's moderation and then this site's moderation turns out to be exacty the same.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And to think that some faggots here are asking me to remove the submissions restriction. How cucked.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

tons criticized elliot for being autist, mentalcel, killing incels, having a terrible plan, also if you read his manifesto he thought getting money would get him girls, so played the lottery and wasted a lot of money, that is bluepilled.

[–]MBII 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

He was right about the money though

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

not really, he could just get an escort but didn't want that so why did he think having money at a young age would be different, a poor chad gets actual relationships which is what we all want.

[–]MBII 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I wouldn't mind a relationship with a hottie but I also really want to fuck a hooker

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

well Elliot had a few hundred dollars at least which he used to buy lottery tickets. He expressly said he didn't want an escort. And I understand why, it's not real. I guess he really wanted millions so he would basically be able to afford an escort every day, like a sugar baby, but chads get that every day for free, and even normies get to b etabuxx and have sex like once a month. Unless you get sex for free, still an incel.

[–]CrackingYs 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

What "final warning" are you talking about? There is an ER post still in my feed.

[–]hybristophilia 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

https://saidit.net/s/Incels/comments/1azf/elliot_rodger_tribute/2wj8

[–]CrackingYs 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Maybe it's time to start work on an unstoppable free speech Blockchain/Tor-based reddit clone and make reddit and all its authoritarian clones obsolete.

[–]Cade_Connelly_13 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I helped put up 8chan on Zeronet, how about give that a look?

A Tor website is more secure but setting one up is TBH more headache than many of us want to go to. With Zeronet it was like installing any other program, going to a website and clicking a few buttons to start seeding.

[–]CrackingYs 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

From what little I know, Zeronet isn't going to be secure enough:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/8chan-users-migrating-to-zeronet-are-accidentally-revealing-their-locations

I made a separate post here:

https://saidit.net/s/Incels/comments/1bbq/the_only_solution_to_the_ongoing_genocide_of_free/

I think if the need is great enough people would be willing to jump through some hoops to regain their freedom of speech. Maybe some combo of the Tor browser + a web extension could make it easy.

[–]basedaf1 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

8chan is an especially cursed website at this point. What's the benefit in putting up an onion over clearnet if not hosting illegal (or in the case of 8chan cursed) content?

[–]Cade_Connelly_13 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A wise techie always has a backup.

Also I suspect it's a way to flip the rigid digit to the Internet mob who's been working very hard to suppress them. A reminder that even if their clearnet site goes down again, they can't completely kill them.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Fuck this website

[–]randomcel 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, Mumkey Jones got crucified for his ER videos.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (4 children)

You can post the video, just not with a title that's praising him! It's not complex.

Just don't praise mass killers. Not a difficult concept to follow.

[–][deleted]  (3 children)

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    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    This sub should be abandoned but I won't get it banned so people can see my pinned post. Sub's now at restricted settings.

    P.S. I'll remove your comment.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    KEK

    [–]MBII 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Elliot Rodgers is a hero and legend