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[–]Edvin 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (21 children)

Saw the sub yesterday and found it interesting but couldn't comment because I'd be banned haha. Welcome to SaidIt! Glad to see more communities popping up and the site diversifying.

[–]Doll[S] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (20 children)

Feel free to sub and still stop by. We have other subs that are for men, too but are in the process of being made. And thanks!

[–]Edvin 15 insightful - 4 fun15 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 4 fun -  (19 children)

I'm just happy to see more people that aren't right wing white men (this is simply a joke about the people who just comment racial slurs and not meant to be anything more than a joke) haha. I'm someone who really enjoys diversity so seeing the platform expand makes me happy. I was actually considering leaving, but seeing stuff like this makes me want to keep giving it a chance.

Edit: clarification on a joke

[–][deleted] 20 insightful - 3 fun20 insightful - 2 fun21 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I agree I may not be a poc or black woman but I support their free speech on here

[–]TheBeefBenson 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

It's good to see diversity of opinion, but I fail to see what anyone's race has to do with anything. Sure, people of different races may offer a unique opinion on some things but it shouldn't be expected that they all conform to the same opinion, which may be opinions you find abhorrent. Would you feel the quality of the conversation had improved because a large group of members of the Nation of Islam came here? Because they're actually a lot more right wing then many of the right wingers on here. Are they simply an improvement because of the colour of their skin? At the very least that's tokenism if not racist to both races.

People's immutable characteristics are not something they should be judged on. And fyi I've spent a lot of time here calling out those right wing people for the exact same thing, I'm just holding everyone to the same standard.

So, please just have a think about it and don't pour more petrol on the racial bonfire. There's enough of that about as it is

[–]jamesK_3rd 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Recognizing groups or particular characteristics of certain individuals is a form of signaling. Usually when people use terms such as POC, they are attempting to endear themselves to the in group. In this case, It's mostly virtue signaling.

[–]72ndGender 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yep. There are no races or sexes on the internet, unless you make it point to let everyone know. Of course it fits into conversation when appropriate, but, in general, it's not necessary to introduce yourself by race and gender.

[–]Edvin 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Lmao you're totally right, how could I be so racist to be happy to see diversity, I was mainly talking about those people who are throwing racial slurs, which to me isn't really adding much to conversation, nor the racial slurs, but you're right they aren't racist, I'm the racist one for enjoying having different people with different backgrounds hahaha

[–]TheBeefBenson 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

That comment was a complete straw man and you know it. Please refer to the pyramid of debate because we don't toletate that here.

To reiterate, wanting people of different races on the site for simply the sake of them being a different race, and regardless of their opinions, means you see their value only in terms of a collective and not as individuals. It is an objectification of a people based on an immutable characteristic, their race. That's tokenism and it can be a parallel with racism. It's not born out of hatred but it is still devaluing of a person's individuality based on their race. But I'm not calling you a racist ok, and you need to calm down. I understand how things can be with the current climate, getting labelled racist is awful and shocking especially when you're a nice person.

And as I said, i call out the right wingers when they do it too, so I'm not being biased here.

I'm just saying you should leave race out of it too.

If you're interested in people of different races because you think they might bring something unique to the table that's fine and good and healthy. But at the same time you can't assume they will bring anything beneficial either.

Whether good or bad we should refrain from making judgements and expectations on people because of the colour of their skin.

Edit: it would also be better to label these "right wingers" for what they are. Because they are not libertarians, they're not conservatives, they're not centre-right, they're neo-nazis. Actual neo-nazis. I know. It's depressing we have to share a space with them. Such is the price of liberty. Take solace in the fact they're truly miserable creatures and should be ridiculed at every opportunity.

[–]Edvin 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

"If you're interested in people of different races because you think they might bring something unique to the table that's fine and good and healthy." I'm not sure how my initial comment didn't convey this but I think we've gotten off on the wrong foot. Your initial comment made me assume that you were trying to defend the racist people I often see on this site, especially after a different user sent me an entire essay on why women aren't human. My apologies for misunderstanding that. My initial comment was just meant to display my enjoyment of seeing people from different backgrounds join the community as I believe it will lead to better conversations. My remark about right wing white men was simply a slight against the racist commenters I've seen on the sight and nothing more.

[–]TheBeefBenson 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I totally get that. I'm sorry if I came across as belittling I'm just very firm with making sure people see each other as individuals first. Immutable characteristics should never be used for slander. But I can understand why you were angry enough to use those terms. It's depressingly accurate, isn't it.

You seem like a genuinely lovely women, by the way, and it angers me to hear that you received such an appalling comment. These neo nazis really are the scum of the earth.

Hey, here's a thought. Ask him if he doesn't think women are human does that means he's gay or into bestiality. Or is he hoping to gesticulate some offspring in the cum sock under his bed.

[–]Edvin 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Honestly I should have been able to determine you're not a racist from how articulate you are haha. Funnily enough I'm actually a dude, but I had to call out someone saying women aren't human. It's not as if I can downvote them. ended up blocking them because they clearly were beyond reason and I felt I was wasting my time. Intially I had suggested them therapy but after they kept digging deeper into their disgusting ideology I informed them that an exorcism or lobotomy would be a better option. The name of their sub SaidIt was test sub 3 or something along those lines so I get the impression this wasn't their first attempt at belittling women.

[–]TheBeefBenson 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

Lmao. Sorry for misgendering you, bro. Please don't cart me off to the gulag lol.

Dude sounds like if he had an enema they wouldn't know where to put the pipe.

[–]Edvin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"If you're interested in people of different races because you think they might bring something unique to the table that's fine and good and healthy." I'm not sure how my initial comment didn't convey this but I think we've gotten off on the wrong foot. Your initial comment made me assume that you were trying to defend the racist people I often see on this site, especially after a different user sent me an entire essay on why women aren't human. My apologies for misunderstanding that. My initial comment was just meant to display my enjoyment of seeing people from different backgrounds join the community as I believe it will lead to better conversations. My remark about right wing white men was simply a slight against the racist commenters I've seen on the sight and nothing more.

[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

You mean you judge the value of a person's contributions by the color of their skin?

Seriously? What is this, 1890?

[–]72ndGender 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

How unwoke of you. You monster.

[–]jet199 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Very generous of you to believe they are all right wing white men rather than a fair few bored trolls and bots of all ethnicities larping.

[–]Doll[S] 3 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Don't expose us, dammit.

[–]Doll[S] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks, Mr (or Ms). Edvin. ;-)

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    [–]Edvin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I see you're here because of the pyramid of debate. If only you had a semblance of intelligence.

    [–][deleted] 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    I hate the term "people of color" I find this term degrading, condescending, insulting and racist, putting all people who are not "white" under one category. Sometimes "people of color" might identify closer with "white" people than say a sub saharan African, and some Europeans are rather dark colored, like these Sardinians:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP9YsN6NtDI

    Putting a Turk, a Chinese, an Indian, and a sub Saharan African under the same category is stupid and racist.

    [–]MakeAOCBartendAgain 9 insightful - 5 fun9 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 5 fun -  (3 children)

    Why is People of Color OK but Colored People is racist?

    [–]72ndGender 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    Because ultimate power us being able to arbitrarily control people's every word.

    [–]Zodiac_Killer 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    And what's wrong with the term "people of light"?

    [–]Noreja 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Nothing. As a self-identified trans-temporal 1460's paladin, I prefer that term.

    [–]Antifa 6 insightful - 7 fun6 insightful - 6 fun7 insightful - 7 fun -  (2 children)

    A hello to strictly black women? Or all?

    Edit: Yep. Strictly black people, and black women. Outstanding.

    [–]Doll[S] 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    Who cares, whoever sees it. Wasn't that deep or thought out.

    [–]Ossidiana 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    I don't like the term "POC". Also, why is POC separated from black women?

    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Welcome to saidit. Read your sub description - you'll likely have a hard time attracting people to get their lazy asses off Reddit until a hammer drops though. They'll subvert and take over your subs to keep you from spreading thought they don't approve of.

    For black femcels: jews created this situation for you with their marxist multicultural bullshit - if you weren't competing with every other race of women for men, you wouldn't be in your unfortunate situation.

    [–]Doll[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Thanks. I'm looking out! ;-)

    [–]quickbeam 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Cool! It's awesome to see the migration from Reddit of different groups. I have hope that this could become a viable alternative where we can speak our minds freely and maybe learn from each other!

    [–]Chipit 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Do you find it ironic that pro-censorship advocates such as yourselves have been the victim of the monster you created?

    Why or why not?

    [–]Noreja 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Why would you assume they're "pro-censorship advocates"? Was that stated in the sidebar of their old sub or something?

    [–]Chipit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    "Why do they call him Boris the bullet dodger?"

    "Because he dodged bullets Avi."

    When you censor others, that's what you get called.

    [–]hatshepsut 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    yayyyy. is the old sub closed then?

    [–]Doll[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    It's still open! We're just on private, because we're being watched by people with no life.

    [–]Nwabudike_Morgan 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    You must be inclusive or face the wrath of the transgenders!

    [–]LarrySwinger2 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Welcome. Feel free to post it on /s/DiscoverSaidit as well.

    [–]philosopher 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Welcome!

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      [–]Tortoise 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I don't think so

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        [–]antireddit 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

        Fuck off troll. Let the sistas speak up with brother Farrakhan in a forum free of censorship. We all know they are free to trash white people all they want on reddit, but the second they speak out about a certain tribe...

        [–]bjam27 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Oh shit cry more about how oppressed you are.

        [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        No

        [–]Edvin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Just report and move on. The site is based on the pyramid of debate and I'd be impressed if any of these racist who only shout slurs could even process the word pyramid to begin with. Mods and admins can remove them for dragging down discussion.