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[–]Optimus85 17 insightful - 6 fun17 insightful - 5 fun18 insightful - 6 fun -  (19 children)

Well...shit. I guess dissenting opinions aren't tolerated on this site anymore. With some of the more colourful and entertaining users gone this forum is looking rather drab.

[–]Chipit 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

You mean the more disruptive and shit stirring users.

Yaknow, I frigging hate website drama. I just want to post and comment. But damn, some of you really love this drama stuff. I had no idea.

[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (15 children)

It sucks the trolls create the appearance of popularity of the drama. What's worse is some real people genuinely get suckered in. What's worse is some believe the trolls and start turning against this website, which is of course their intent.

[–]Chipit 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (13 children)

Yeah. You're 100% right. This is the exact plan.

You have to realize they're working from a playbook designed by people with advanced educations in psychology. All we can do is fight back. Never give up! You're the good guy here, no matter how much they fling at you.

[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

Thank you. It really is a playbook, they have about 15 styles of attacks they cycle through over and over. As admin I've seen every style of attack a dozen times over. The users are shielded from this though so a lot of them don't realize what's going on, and how intense and serious the attacks are. Users only see the stuff that slips through the cracks, so they think it's not so bad. But if they saw the full picture, they'd realize how bad these attacks are.

[–]Chipit 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

Keep sending them back to the abyss from whence they came.

Grown-ups don't have a temper tantrum when someone points out they misused a word. Grown-ups don't let children get their way just because they threw a tantrum. Grown-ups don't stop doing what's right just because a child might throw a tantrum over it.

[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

I agree. But it's one thing when a child is throwing a tantrum, and it's entirely another when someone is paid to have a tantrum for hours a day, every day for months and months. Even psychopaths eventually get bored and stop. But paid people don't.

It's just wild they go to such great effort for such a small site as this. That says a lot about the state of the internet as a whole, and why almost every single forum is so messed up these days. It's all being destroyed intentionally. And it's so cheap and easy to do, if you think about it. Why wouldn't they?

I only see this trend getting worse. Same with robocalling on phones, and spam emails, and all the ads and scams in your physical mailbox. Our communications systems are being gamed by bad actors more and more frequently. And it's basically impossible to prosecute or stop when they're on the other side of the world, and they're able to spoof their phone number and spoof their IP addresses so you don't even know who they are or where they are. It makes talking person-to-person more appealing, that's for sure.

[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Well, we're on the front lines of this new battle, that's for sure. How about browser fingerprinting? That works for the ad companies.

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

They spoof their browser fingerprints too, it's randomized.

These people are not fucking around.

[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Maybe compare browser footprints when they log in, and if it's different every time shadow ban them?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Poor Mag, you have to deal with so much... Please talk to me if it becomes too much. I've got to deal with a lot of it too, but it's obvious I'm a bit antisocial, so it doesn't really get to me unless one of my friends (I guess you're the only one left now, they all turned out to be trolls...) are upset.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

The first rule of warfare: divide and conquer.

[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Hey so muskrat made this image:

And then he was spreading it around everywhere, trying to stir up drama. Trying repeatedly to frame me and this site as having taken a stance we did not take, with this faked image.

And then a loki88 troll PMd me another fabricated image, that same hour, trying to frame another user (fschmidt), hosted on the same image service.

So it became obvious muskrat is working with the trolls, this evidence is undeniable. Also in the last 2 days he posted about how great it is to have sex with 17 year olds, talks endlessly about the ironleft, stirring site drama , creating and promoting subs that are constantly pushing the boundaries of the rules... if it quacks like a duck, it might just be a duck.

It's very unfortunate some people feel the need to go to such lengths to destroy this website and its reputation.

This isn't a failure on my part, this is me removing people who are working hard to deliberately destroy this website. Once the evidence is clear, I had to act.

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

So it became obvious muskrat is working with the trolls, this evidence is undeniable.

That's complete garbage. There's no end to the number of ways to fake both of those - as they've already been doing and are clearly proficient in PhotoShop. Be smarter dude. Are you on the pot or something?

"It might just be a duck" is NOT undeniable and NOT clear. It might be a decoy with a speaker playing an MP3.

You're acting without thinking and without all the information. You are destroying your own reputation as you can't even see your own failures. Take a survey and/or ask SaidIt. Reach out to the community (in a better manner than I did when you censored and banned me). The premise of asking the community is completely on target and the RIGHT THING TO DO. It's not yet too late to turn things around.

Drop your fucking ego.