Reddit is a hellscape.

submitted by Seraphim from self.Introductions

The concentration of mod power on reddit has killed the free speech element that made it great to begin with. It has been overrun. I hope this platform can avoid the same pitfalls and continue to value free speech.

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[–]fschmidt 16 insightful - 4 fun16 insightful - 3 fun17 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

It isn't only mod power, but also the admin policies there. I mean if I started a free speech subreddit, the admins would quickly shut it down.

[–]GammaKing 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Political zealots effectively infiltrated the admin team and have now imposed their politics on the whole site. Reddit is done for.

[–]package 11 insightful - 9 fun11 insightful - 8 fun12 insightful - 9 fun -  (3 children)

Political zealots trannies

[–]Tophat123 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Jews

[–]Spotted_Lady 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

All of the above.

[–]Trajan 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'm thinking it, along with many other places, we're always that way. The left hadn't earlier been as underpants in head crazy earlier, leaving fewer contentious topics. I recall with the atheist/sceptic communities how it all suddenly changed, with feminism being the one unquestionable matter. Most other topics trundled along, only that one having one acceptable position.

The Trump reaction really kicked things into overdrive, NPC content expansions being issued damn near hourly. I reckon it was always this bad, in principle at least.

[–]IkeConn 12 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

It's more of a lefty snowflake utopia where all dissent is quickly silenced. One way or another.

[–]IamCleaver 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

This is exactly why I switched to this platform. The issue isn't only about free speech. The issue is with the whole moderating culture. Some rare subreddits are ok, but many have literally pages of vague posting rules that are ridiculous to read and impossible to follow.

[–]Trajan 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Some subs really do try. I was a regular at KotakuInAction - a good sub. While I appreciate the effort of the mods, it felt ridiculous the lengths to which they had to go. While lefty dubs openly brigaded and flouted other rules and guidelines, KiA was clearly on thin ice despite doing nothing in violation of the rules. I got tired of needing to be a saint amongst degenerates and bandits.

[–]SaidOverRed 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Being a saint among degenerates, you say? How ironic. I never thought of it that way.

To me it was just life. It has gotten noticeably hard post-clownworld. Stay strong.

[–]Trajan 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, it's the double standard that got to me.

[–]Brewdabier 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Well remember Aaron schwartz, he died fighting for free speech.

[–]JustLookDontDismiss 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Well when you have a ratio of 70% CCP Bots 20% humans without a brain and the final 10% humans with a brain. You end up with the internet equivalent of a porta potty outside Taco Bell

[–]infocom6502 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It can be fun to browse with reveddit once in a while; sometimes even very informative and useful for spotting suppressed news and agenda.

[–]HibikiBlack 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

The shithole of the Internet.

[–]TsM56 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Some mods on there are on a massive power trip

[–]SaidOverRed 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you want to listen to another perspective where I purposely try to see what is being removed and where the biggest "pressure points" are: https://saidit.net/s/MeanwhileOnReddit/comments/8i6k/my_reddit_account_experiment_sub_mod_shadowbanning/

[–]Spotted_Lady 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I see no problem with echo chambers in themselves as long as everyone can make them. The problem is when the same mods ban in their soapbox subs and then apply that to their non-partisan subs or preemptively ban based on them not agreeing with them elsewhere.

It would be nice if they had a limit of subs per moderator. Like maybe no more than 100-200 where they are the top mod and maybe that many or a bit more for subs they are a lower-ranking mod, with maybe 500 total. I mean, it doesn't need to be as strict as here, but some sort of limit would be helpful.

If they instituted the debate pyramid, it would eliminate the need for minority-driven policies and assure better fairness. It shouldn't matter if I call someone contard, libtard, freak, the N-word, the F-bomb, sexist slurs, disability slurs, idiot, dumbass, or whatever. That would be name-calling and constitute lowering the debate pyramid as name-calling and slurs. And if I say we should "kill all [insert group]," that would be advocating violence and would not be allowed.

The founding fathers had the wisdom of giving a few strong rights to everyone instead of enumerating rights to each and every group per situation. I feel they should have added more caveats for certain situations. Like the First Amendment should have said that religious speech is allowed in all government contexts (regardless of religion, unless it involves heinous crimes, rape, or human sacrifice, though if your religion requires drug sacraments that hinders your job, that is a different matter and should be prohibited while in public) and that you should be allowed to express your religious beliefs in public while also representing the government, and that having a government or public role doesn't negate those. I mean mentioning Christ in class should be seen either as a subject (like comparative religion) or as an inherently private opinion and not an endorsement by the state. And I feel the 14th Amendment should have had a narrower scope with a sunset clause so it would only be in effect for 1-2 generations and then automatically repeal itself. It should only be applied to slavery, not to immigration, abortion, transgender, etc. And even the 5th Amendment, while I support due process, what about cases where there are exigent circumstances where you must extract information to save one or more lives? Many may differ on the above I'd rather not debate that. I just wish things would have been clearer or narrower in scope in some places.

But my point above is that Reddit should have a few rules for everyone and not special rules for special groups, and not treat hatred of one group as different from hatred toward another. If the n-bomb gets a permanent suspension, then so should "racist," "bigot," "homophobe," libtard, contard, ret-rd, fundie, boomer, troll, asshole, dumbfuck, Nazi, Commie, etc. Name-calling is name-calling and hate is hate. There shouldn't be "protected hatred" or "protected resentments."