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This is a test post pls no bully

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[–]DomitiusOfMassilia⬛[S] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

The site is a little slower to respond than I'm used to, but I'm getting the hang of importing our stylesheet.

[–]LithargoelKiA Old Guard 3 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Compiling Dom.bully_prescription

[–]asiangamer51 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

Funny, I was going to post a link to this place in the KIA2 subreddit because of the recent changes. Still might, but I guess you should be the one because you're a mod there and people might be more willing to read it.

[–]DomitiusOfMassilia⬛[S,M] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

We still don't know if the users want to all come here yet.

This is what I mean by "prepping the beach head".

I have a header now....

But still, the users might want to use Tribes, or Minds, or Gab, or Poal, or something else. If I have a basic bitch implementation of our sub at these places, the users will be able to more adequately decide if it has the right kind of feel, and if the size and outside community is to our liking.

I still want to build a little something on Poal because it's user highlight system may be useful, although this place is a pretty good replacement for reddit.

[–]LithargoelKiA Old Guard 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

I'm intrigued about this Poal... gonna have to check it out.

[–]DomitiusOfMassilia⬛[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It's got an interesting point system that's a lot more public facing.

The problem is that it's even smaller than Saidit, and it's ... ahem... significantly more to the right. Not as far right as Voat... but still.

[–]LithargoelKiA Old Guard 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Hmmm, yeah... looking it over, it seems like they're a bit beyond the novelty phase of having a truly free-speech platform, but that very well could be due to their size. Still, after seeing what happened to Voat, I'm hesitant to believe that the same couldn't happen to another platform in its infancy.

[–]DomitiusOfMassilia⬛[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It could happen to all of them.

To be honest, if we move here or there, we'd push the userbase to the left. Also we'd be like, more than 50% of the subscriber base. Weirdly enough, a collective action would probably be a huge boost to them.

My only concern is mobile. I don't know how it works on either site.

[–]LithargoelKiA Old Guard 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/wiki/index#wiki_apps_.26amp.3B_clients

The mobile webpage here is pretty simplistic, but seems to function on Chrome and Firefox (at least on my old-ass Android phone).

  • * edit * * Installed the Saidit App from Play store on my phone, will give it a shakedown today.

[–]DomitiusOfMassilia⬛[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

https://poal.co/s/KotakuInAction/hot

[–]LithargoelKiA Old Guard 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Thank you kindly!

[–]DomitiusOfMassilia⬛[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No problem. I forgot that you commented it.

[–]idkwhatimseeking 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I think a big factor is that there are many Reddit users that still don't know about Saidit as an alternative. I mean.. I just found out about Saidit yesterday. It isn't even listed on Google as a Reddit alternative (the last I checked). So.. some how getting the word out would help tremendously by pulling in some traffic.

[–]DomitiusOfMassilia⬛[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Part of it is definitely that it is an alternative people don't know about. Which is why I want to have a major, consolidated, move. Not a slow trickle over by people who are frustrated.

[–]idkwhatimseeking 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

How do you suppose you'ld go about doing that?

[–]DomitiusOfMassilia⬛[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Building connections with people in positions of power with other subs.

Maybe offering them lifeboats.

[–]Tarrock 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Are people actually going to contact advertisers now?

[–]DomitiusOfMassilia⬛[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

For what?

[–]Tarrock 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You have resetera trying to ruin game developers (Heartbeat). Kotaku posting Loli. RPS and Eurogamer pushing agenda driven articles about Ion Fury. Not to mention all the above outlets leading to the suicide of man after pushing a #Metoo allegation. I don't get a point in a KiA sub is people are just going to whine and not take action.

[–]DomitiusOfMassilia⬛[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's going to have to be up to the community.

Frankly, I suspect that our primary objective will be to build outside of the tech-bubble. Why fuck around with advertisers who hate us, when we can build our own shit?

[–]Tarrock 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Tell me when you're at the "build your own banks" step.

[–]Elvis_Presley 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The King sends his regards.

Feels weird to be able to post in a "kia" sub without the number two in it.

[–]DomitiusOfMassilia⬛[S] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

breathes in mechanically KiA Prime's failure is complete.

[–]Elvis_Presley 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I have to say that after some thinking and a night's sleep I don't think Saidit will be a very excellent platform for free discussions. (Might work very well for civilisity-controlled discussions akin to T_D or KiA2 but not for general free speech/sillyness.)

Unlike Aaron's original vision of Reddit, where subs were independent in a "federalized" way, here everything is more managed top-down, with the PoD forced on each sub with admins forcing sub mods to comply.[1]

The real alternative will be close to Aaron Schwartz' vision. Subs are independent, the central admins have limited power over the subs and their mods. The subs don't have to share much more than a common user login and the domain name under which they are hosted.

[1]: Based on this text here. https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/j1/the_saiditnet_terms_and_content_policy/

[–]DomitiusOfMassilia⬛[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I don't actually agree with this. I don't think that the admins are pushing very hard, but I get the concern. I don't believe that this place will effectively shut down fun, though it might be worth trying to get an AMA with the admins here.

That being said, I've got another alternative if you want to check it out too. But it is a bit more edgy. https://poal.co/s/KotakuInAction/hot

[–]Elvis_Presley 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Perhaps there's nothing to worry. Just that there's this kind of a "global" agreement (along with the wording) about what subs should contain doesn't sit with me that well.

[–]DomitiusOfMassilia⬛[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I see it as a kind of preference or values statement.

[–]Elvis_Presley 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yeah, no I agree. When it comes to values this site doesn't have the worst ones in place.

But perhaps this all lays a groundwork for that (inevitable?) time when admins turn left there's a perfectly fine reason to go all in.

And some of the "funny subs" of reddit are not very possible under the values of Saidit, but that's solely my own problem.

[–]DomitiusOfMassilia⬛[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

And some of the "funny subs" of reddit are not very possible under the values of Saidit, but that's solely my own problem.

I'm really starting to think that I should get an admin in here to do an AMA.

Which subs are you referring to?

[–]Elvis_Presley 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

In essence all/most of the subs that don't aim (or have to aim) to a meaningful discussions and conversations. Adhering to the POD rule becomes useless.

My favorite, r/4chan has its own subculture with freely thrown slurs and wishes of KYS (most of which are creatively reworded for lulz) all around the house. It's part of the culture. You may say, "good riddance". To which I say again, solely my own personal problem about Saidit.

[–]DomitiusOfMassilia⬛[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, but have you seen that behavior removed here?