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[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 82 insightful - 7 fun82 insightful - 6 fun83 insightful - 7 fun -  (9 children)

"So now I've basically discovered I am a lesbian, because I have simply grown as a person while with her, and done a lot of self reflection. On top of that I want to ID as a lesbian and finally she is starting to come out more publicly, experiment with her presentation a lot etc, so it's a possibility for me that I can be out and proud! Finally!"

What.the.hell. They treat our sexuality like a joke like "oh I'm a lesbian after all omg! after multiple relationships with men with whom I enjoyed as I'm pretty much heterosexual, as my bf decided to id as a woman, I suddenly poof become a lesbian" 🤦

EDIT: Omg, this part is even worse:

I feel like part of being a lesbian isn't literally just finding a woman attractive, but somewhat being involved in the culture, the media, a certain humour, the fashion etc.


[–]blackrainbow 38 insightful - 22 fun38 insightful - 21 fun39 insightful - 22 fun -  (1 child)

"Oh I'm a lesbian now! Let's buy some lesbian flags, follow cara delevingne on instagram and watch some L word, that's what real lesbians do!"

[–]uroborosjohnson 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lol I watched the L word when I was questioning, and it made me hope to god I wasn't gay. Nowadays it's got a soft spot in my heart. Like a sexy, titillating, crazy trainwreck

[–]uroborosjohnson 39 insightful - 4 fun39 insightful - 3 fun40 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

It's so funny. This shit has basically made being gay into a "lifestyle" instead of a sexuality, which is exactly what my homophobic mother has always described homosexuality as. Anyone over 25 or so can remember how the "gay lifestyle" was a dogwhistle. And now gay as a "lifestyle" is not only encouraged, but codified as such by the left.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries"[S] 30 insightful - 20 fun30 insightful - 19 fun31 insightful - 20 fun -  (1 child)

I mean I don’t wear snapbacks, so I guess I don’t really like pussy.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 10 fun6 insightful - 9 fun7 insightful - 10 fun -  (0 children)

Bruh, how cum u don’t know how 2 lez?

[–]Astrid2448 26 insightful - 11 fun26 insightful - 10 fun27 insightful - 11 fun -  (3 children)

Hahaha apparently a girl blowing her boyfriend before watching the L word is more of a lesbian than an actual lesbian from before “lesbian culture” was really a thing. Like ok dumbass

[–][deleted] 14 insightful - 7 fun14 insightful - 6 fun15 insightful - 7 fun -  (2 children)

Lesbian culture is being an absolute gatekeeping shieldmaiden harpy against any and all non-lesbians trying to invite themselves to the lesbian-only party. That’s literally the main tradition we pass down to our sisters. Lol. Enjoy, girls.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries"[S] 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Lol I think this behavior comes with the territory.

Unfortunately this identity void also got the memo because her post before this was on r/AL about bi women saying “I’m so gay” being “problematic.” So no self-awareness but posting that on r/AL and getting the thread removed does merit some bonus points for really trying to sell the charade.

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Bi women are more gay than that broad is. Lololol. I would be LIVID if I was a true bisexual rn. The audacity of a straight chick cosplaying as a lesbian and delivering lines from the lesbian speech is just too much irony.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries"[S] 50 insightful - 5 fun50 insightful - 4 fun51 insightful - 5 fun -  (9 children)

Notice the preoccupation with being seen as a lesbian couple and, somehow for some reason, being concerned that people won’t take them seriously as “lesbians.”

Self-Aware Wolves: Gaytrender and Transtrender edition. These people are holding themselves out to the general public as representatives of our demographic. Lord help us all.

[–]SeasideLimbs 34 insightful - 10 fun34 insightful - 9 fun35 insightful - 10 fun -  (3 children)

Looking into the person's comment history, she also made another thread where she's scolding bisexual women for saying "I am so gay!"

While I agree with the sentiment, her preoccupation with these labels is sketchy.

Edit: Totally unrelated, but I couldn't help but laugh at the top comment by a trans-identified male randomly mentioning anime. Because of course.

[–]a_blue_bird 12 insightful - 5 fun12 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

she also made another thread where she's scolding bisexual women for saying "I am so gay!"

Yeah, and that thread was closed and removed for

violating the following rule and/or policy: Labels and Sexual Orientation Policy

Typical AL.

[–]reluctant_commenter 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good lord. Put them all in a group and they'll be at each other's throats forever.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Loooooool bisexual women must be like “oh hell no, we take this shit from lesbians but at least it’s a time-honoured tradition, straidies can sit down...”

[–]julesburm1891 29 insightful - 3 fun29 insightful - 2 fun30 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

When JKR initially caused the ruckus this year, one of the top replies was a transman asking if JKR wouldn’t consider her relationship gay. Almost all of the replies were very befuddled straight people going, “uh no; that’s the the least gay thing.”

It gives me hope that most straight people get what being LGB is and that almost none of them will see whatever clown show this is as a lesbian relationship.

[–]luckystar 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They know deep down it's all bullshit. That's why they freak out if anything ever so slightly pokes a hole in the bubble of delusion. Normal people don't need "validation" to know who they are or to like themselves.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries"[S] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Honestly everyone would understand this a lot better if people knew about Cluster B personality disorders and mental health conditions that give people an extraordinarily weak sense of self. Then we wouldn’t be rushing to validate all of this nonsense. Mental health professionals should know better than anyone exactly what they’re dealing with here and instead they hand over the keys and let the inmates run the asylum.

[–]denverkrisMy pronouns are Vodka?/Yes!/please 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's no wonder that lgbt acceptance rates are plummeting.

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

She’s mad her gentleman friend won’t look porno enough to make her look hot when they publicly make out. Because that’s lesbian culture (porn culture)

[–]CJLez 41 insightful - 5 fun41 insightful - 4 fun42 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

I feel like part of being a lesbian isn't literally just finding a woman attractive, but somewhat being involved in the culture, the media, a certain humour, the fashion etc.

No, literally just finding (only) women sexually attractive is what being a lesbian is. You can stay in the closet until you are 98 years old and never tell a single person and you're still a lesbian, whether you act on your feelings or not.

It's exhausting having to show it all to her and teach everything (on top of helping her so much with her gender gender presentation, and teaching her about clothes and makeup). It's like, part of what I find sexy about women is knowing that stuff. My gf was raised her whole life not knowing these things, not knowing 'how to girl'.

Some nice casual anti-butch statements there - only being attracted to femmes is obviously fine, people are into who they're into, but the insinuation that women who don't enjoy make-up and girly clothes aren't women is not a great look.

I can't help but have this shitty gatekeeping feeling of like: Will you ever be a real lesbian?

Honey. Neither of you will ever be a lesbian.

[–][deleted] 17 insightful - 5 fun17 insightful - 4 fun18 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, being exclusively attracted to other women is the ONLY thing that is truly lesbian. All the other bits are how our lives are shaped by that one essential part. If you are not exclusively attracted to women then you’re not a lesbian. It’s VERY VERY SIMPLE.

Makeup is literally paste or powder you smear on yourself with greater or lesser precision. It’s not woman, man, boy, girl, anything. It’s stuff. People do it or don’t. It’s not lesbian. It’s not woman. Lol

We don’t need a gate we need a bunker, at this point

[–]julesburm1891 28 insightful - 12 fun28 insightful - 11 fun29 insightful - 12 fun -  (0 children)

A straight woman who’s only dated dudes and continues to date only dudes now thinks she’s a lesbian? Sounds about right for 2020.

[–]blackrainbow 29 insightful - 7 fun29 insightful - 6 fun30 insightful - 7 fun -  (3 children)

From another post from OP's history:

"For me penises have generally been something unattractive or embarassing or gross/perverted [...] How can I train myself to find her as sexy as I would a cis woman and not wish she had different parts?"

But it's not conversion therapy they're doing lol.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries"[S] 34 insightful - 11 fun34 insightful - 10 fun35 insightful - 11 fun -  (2 children)

Her self-perception is all over the place. She dated this guy before he came out to her as trans but she is re-writing her story to involve aversion to penises. Like OK.

“Does this sound lesbian?!”

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 17 insightful - 13 fun17 insightful - 12 fun18 insightful - 13 fun -  (1 child)

Hey, that is transphobic, because that is not penis there she see, it is girl-penis, it is absolutely different body part!

[–]a_blue_bird 12 insightful - 9 fun12 insightful - 8 fun13 insightful - 9 fun -  (0 children)

You're joking, but she actually wrote exactly that.

[–]BigMommyMilkersYes, they're real 26 insightful - 12 fun26 insightful - 11 fun27 insightful - 12 fun -  (5 children)

It's funny how a lot of these heterosexual women suddenly discover their true lesbian calling when their husbands decide to wear dresses

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 8 insightful - 9 fun8 insightful - 8 fun9 insightful - 9 fun -  (2 children)

I'm sorry a little off topic, but I always laugh when I see your username, it has happened a couple of times already 😂

[–]BigMommyMilkersYes, they're real 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Lmao thank you

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Me too. Hanahahahaha. Now it’s more of a “haaaaah”

[–]luckystar 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I feel so bad for them. There's stories online of "trans widows" and they're all so depressing. The man "comes out" as female usually during a time when the woman is getting more attention (pregnancy/childbirth) and almost universally focus on a fetishized version of "womanhood" with garters and lacy lingerie, and never actually engage in the less pleasant sides of "womanhood" like taking care of kids or doing chores. But by the time you've had a child with a man you're in so deep that divorce can be a terrifying idea, then combine that with women being socialized to a nurturing/caretaker role, so they spend all this time coddling their husband's feelings and showing him how to apply makeup and shit. It honestly sounds almost even worse than those women that marry inmates or NEETs that play video games all day. The martyr complex involved.

[–]marmorsymphata 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Even the first comment in the thread is talking about how they're a dude that decided to come out as a woman right after his third daughter was born. It's phrased like they are related and it's freaking me out 😷

[–]ghostraider 21 insightful - 13 fun21 insightful - 12 fun22 insightful - 13 fun -  (8 children)

'Are you a lesbian? Are you just delusional? Nobody will see you like a lesbian, what part of your experience is a lesbian experience?'

Someone should just answer her: No. Yes. None of it.

But it's like I have to teach her everything that just comes naturally to me (minus attraction to women). I feel like part of being a lesbian isn't literally just finding a woman attractive, but somewhat being involved in the culture, the media, a certain humour, the fashion etc. It's exhausting having to show it all to her and teach everything (on top of helping her so much with her gender gender presentation, and teaching her about clothes and makeup).

omg, that sounds exhausting lol Definitely if you are a lesbian/woman it is not exhausting in itself. I never passed any courses or homework to be a woman or a lesbian, did I just discover I am not one? Should I write my ex-gfs to tell them I actually don't have a lesbian diploma? Does that make them bi or straight? So many questions.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 21 insightful - 12 fun21 insightful - 11 fun22 insightful - 12 fun -  (6 children)

I never passed any courses or homework to be a woman or a lesbian

With this explosion of sexism from gender ideologists, I will not be surprised if they will start opening schools where they will be learning "how to be a man, how to be a woman, how to be gay, how to be lesbian, how to be omnigodgender, how to be qwerty-sexual" and taking money for that.

[–]julesburm1891 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

It’s already a thing. Here’s the video Magdalen Berns did about it.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 19 insightful - 7 fun19 insightful - 6 fun20 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

This is ridiculous. And I am sure I am better teacher at femininity. Here my lesson: "to be feminine you must be a woman and be born as a woman, regardless of your looks and actions". Now class, dismissed.

Haven't watched all Magdalen videos yet. Slowly getting there, as I don't have PC at home, and not a fan of using phone.

[–]LasagnaRossa 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Why do they need to be taught femininity if their brain is female? Lol this doesn't make any sense

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries"[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Again, paging Laverne Cox and Julie Rei Goldstein who say that trans males receive female socialization not male socialization. Yea right.

[–]aldoushuxleyghost 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

qwerty sexual ... A+ comment here.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries"[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Isn’t that exactly what a lot of conversion therapy was? Teaching gay men and lesbians to be real men and women?

[–]Astrid2448 16 insightful - 10 fun16 insightful - 9 fun17 insightful - 10 fun -  (0 children)

I actually laughed out loud. Forget that this woman is straight, forget that her man is straight, what’s really important is that she takes her boy over to the Subaru dealership so they can get their lesbian certificate. I can’t even believe lmao

[–]denverkrisMy pronouns are Vodka?/Yes!/please 23 insightful - 4 fun23 insightful - 3 fun24 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

What the actual fuck did I just read. This might be the best part...

"I feel like part of being a lesbian isn't literally just finding a woman attractive, but somewhat being involved in the culture, the media, a certain humour, the fashion etc."

You know what THE BIGGEST part of being a lesbian is? It's a female being attracted to/having a romantic and/or physical intimacy with another female. Nothing about what this woman is doing is lesbianing and I find it mental that she even thinks that it is.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Which lesbian movie do you think turned her? She has got to be consuming some bullshit media to be coming up with all of this dumb bull.

[–]denverkrisMy pronouns are Vodka?/Yes!/please 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I'm gonna vote for Bound. :D

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They were pretty hot tho. Hahaha

[–]a_blue_bird 22 insightful - 2 fun22 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

I read her other threads and feel quite sorry for her. She's absolutely miserable. Women like her are (part of) the reason why lesbians are constantly harassed by MTFs, to a greater extent than gay men. They're bending backwards to please men and TRAs, regardless the cost to themselves. In another thread she wrote about not being attracted to his genitals, but

I just can't really imagine a world where I'm as turned on by her P as I am by a V. It's just that I find it really tricky to differentiate this idea of a penis I've had all my life, and my fear of them, and then the ultimate discovery that I'm a lesbian and am with a transfem partner, and needing to like literally adjust my entire world view of what a woman's body can look like AND feel equal attraction to her. My mind is pretty there but it's like my body can't catch up. I sometimes accidentally fantasise about her having a V in sexy time and then I feel like shit and then I start thinking about transphobia (and transbianphobia) and it ruins any sexy mood I was in. I'm a fierce advocate for 'there is no one way a woman's body looks, anybody who feels they are a woman is a woman and so lesbians can love woman regardless of their parts' but like what about the socialisation part? How can I train myself to find her as sexy as I would a cis woman and not wish she had different parts? I realise this is horrible to say and that it shouldn't matter. It's like I hate this transphobic world and all of the conditioning I have which is causing this problem. How can I change it?

A woman who - as she herself wrote - was so susceptible to social pressures that only dated men despite being gay (and I'm sure she's not even from a very homophobic place), is now once again suppressing her own identity to live according to another ideology. Why are women like that? I don't get it. Why can't she have at least a bit of respect for what she feels and herself as a person? What matters to her now is adapting some ''lesbian fashion'' and ''looking like a lesbian couple''. She doesn't live in the real word, does she? She even wrote that her bf ''ponders'' that he ''might'' be trans, and doesn't even id as a woman himself. It's all in her head, she's all about creating some image of herself for the society to look at, regardless how much of her actual feelings she has to deny to create this image that in [insert current year] she has found to be ''the most desirable'' to have.

[–]Astrid2448 18 insightful - 6 fun18 insightful - 5 fun19 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

Lol she was fine with his penis up until he said he was trans and she “became a lesbian”. She’s just trying to act gay by emulating what the lesbians say lol

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 6 fun8 insightful - 5 fun9 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, that’s the fucking funniest part, and calling him a fake lesbian when she’s a fake lesbian and neither of them know any real lesbians, hahahahaha.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries"[S] 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

This is textbook codependency issues and exactly the kind of person I would imagine would end up in a relationship with a MTF, being rah rah about it, while internally miserable.

[–]hellonumpty 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

100%. Typically codependents are narcs primary target tbh and we all see how many trans people, especially "transbians" display signs of narcissistic personality disorder or a lot of narc traits at least.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Borderlines are narcs primary target, even more than codependent

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries"[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That sounds like a recipe for absolutely disastrous drama. As the child of a narc mom and codependent dad, that shit was enough for me. And trust me, no one is more surprised than I am that I’m a productive member of society. And don’t worry everyone, I have no desire to perpetuate this esteemed genetic line. I was the normal one in my family until I went and gayed.

Also, once upon a time I had a borderline roommate who would do fun things like sleep in my bed in my room when I wasn’t around until one time I came home early without warning and was like wtf girl. I never got an explanation although it explained why she would constantly ask when I’d be home. She also airbnbed her room without notice more than once so I’d come home to strange men and couples being in my apartment.

Personality disorders man: not even once.

[–]reluctant_commenter 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why are women like that? I don't get it. Why can't she have at least a bit of respect for what she feels and herself as a person?

Probably had her boundaries overridden by people her whole life. This is the part that makes the most sense to me. I have no idea what her actual feelings and interests are, though-- and I kind of doubt she does, either.

Either that, or as you described, she is more of the hop-on-the-hype-train variety and is trying to be cool. Considering she was talking about a "lesbian lifestyle", that might be more likely.

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

This is a straight woman though, she’s not a lesbian. I don’t think she’s ever been with a woman. She’s suddenly started watching lots of lesbian porn to convert herself for her transbian partner and now she’s got pussy ocd, lol.

[–]spicyramen 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

typical pick-me shit

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Jeeeeeez. That's really sad. How can women be this blind?

[–]Astrid2448 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Lmao they don’t even say bisexual, they jump straight to the lesbian label. Is the attention that awesome?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, I guess the bisexuals are lucky for once that stupid assholes are not pretending to be them, since there are loads of women out there giving real bisexuals a bad name.

[–]GConly 14 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

then I probably wouldn't have gone for her, because at that time she didn't know she was trans, and was very 'im a straight cis dude'. So flash forward a couple of years: my GF is taking hormones and she actually is non binary, but likes being called a girl, and loves being called my girlfriend.


The whole sub is like that.

[–]reluctant_commenter 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I didn't even know this sub existed, there are so many damn subs for trans people. I wonder if any of them realize how trans-dominant Reddit is.. and Tumblr.. and like everything else...

I feel like part of being a lesbian isn't literally just finding a woman attractive, but somewhat being involved in the culture, the media, a certain humour, the fashion etc.

Well, then I am failing at being a lesbian, lol.

Edit: Also-- I don't know why people seem to think "lesbian fashion" is a conscious choice. I wear a ton of plaid but I never did it to "look lesbian". I looked like that even when I thought I was straight. I just liked it. It was hilarious to me to find out after I told my friends about my same-sex attraction how common it is to wear a lot of flannel, among gay women.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Dude, straight chicks stole 90s lesbian fashion like 5 years ago, flannel isn’t even gay anymore, neither is having a shaved head or docs, and flannel. They probably stole carabiners too

[–]reluctant_commenter 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I am constantly behind the times, so that checks out hahaha. I will happily wear my plaid anyway. Maybe in another couple decades it will go out of mainstream fashion, but I will still be here!

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I want “ugly man-hating dyke” fashion to be ugly again.

[–]IAmSatanVery... very... very gay. 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Straights go "how can I exploit the gays today..." like always.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 7 fun9 insightful - 6 fun10 insightful - 7 fun -  (2 children)

This is the literal craziest comphet TRA shit I have read yet, and that is saying something. Both of these people have a lesbian fetish, and a female oppression fetish to boot. It’s so crazy it’s absolutely fucking incredible. I feel like I just hit peak ally, peak trans, peak lesbophobia, and peak comphet all at once. Give this woman a medal.

Edit: and peak misogyny. I stopped “girling” when I stopped being a fucking “girl,” right about the time I became a woman, aka AN ADULT. At this point, this “girl”s trans partner is probably doing a better job at not being a goddamn stereotype than the ACTUAL woman writing the post. She’s upset about her partner not knowing how to “girl” and be “girly.” For real? Maybe you should stop participating in your own oppression you dumb cow, and don’t feed the AGPs any of that bullshit either because they have enough dumb shit to deal with.

And guess what, lady? Lesbian culture is being sick of your shit.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries"[S] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

This is like one of those pictures that comes with a list of items that are in the picture and you’re supposed to find all of them. And this picture is called “Gender Ideology and GayTrending Are Coming for Your Kids.”

[–]lmaonope333 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I feel like part of being a lesbian isn't literally just finding a woman attractive, but somewhat being involved in the culture, the media, a certain humour, the fashion etc

nope. lesbianism is the state of being a homosexual female. nothing more, nothing less

[–]LasagnaRossa 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Also, of all sexualities, she feels aligned with being a lesbian

Oh yes, I remember when I chose to be a woman attracted to other women as well

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Straight couple, more steps, blah, blah.

I am so over all of them.

Lesbians became fashionable, as long as they/we weren’t “real” lesbians.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, I don’t understand how we became so fashionable when everyone seems to hate us.

[–]aldoushuxleyghost 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Wow I wonder how sustainable this sort of masquerade is? There's probably going to come a time where she realizes he is just using her as a prop (a big one) in his fetish, or is the self-delusion that strong?

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries"[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Codependency tends to be a life-long drug deeply ingrained in a person.

[–]SedateApe 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They are stealing from us.

Our history, our experiences, our identity.

"Are you a real gay?" "I just love being gay this week!" "We could do a gay weekend if you convince your bf to be trans."

It belittles us. It reduces us. It erased us.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I have know at heart I’m lesbian since I was a kid. I almost came out. I panicked. I dated a guy. Broke up. Almost came out. Panicked. Dated another guy. Then they came out as a trans woman. Panicked and broke up. Almost dated another girl but went back to an ex bf. They came out as a trans girl. I broke up. Came out as lesbian. Have only been with ciswomen since. Just putting a perspective to this.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

She sounds like she's deep denial right now and trying desperately to gaslight herself on the truth.

I think she's subconsciously p***ed that he subjected this agp stuff on their relationship, and now she has to lie to herself and others to keep their relationship alive. But she is the type who wants to be supportive, or feels pressured to be by her social circles.

By the way she talks, she sounds completely unconvinced about him passing as a woman. So she nitpicks superficial things like makeup and other stereotypical feminine things and how "she" can't do them right. It's a cover for her real anguish. I think this line basically says it all: "Will you ever be a real lesbian? Will you ever be a real girl?" It's like the raging fire inside peeking out through the cracks.

This is painful to see. She absolutely hates this turn of events but it's like that Harlan Ellison story title, "I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream".

Well, she has a mouth, but she cannot scream anyway. So she goes on these self-gaslighting rants that dance around the elephant in the room of her mind.