What peak-transed you?

Climblikeabee · 2020-09-09T02:30:35+00:00

I never believed in the TWAW bullshit, and sometimes the appropriation and entitlement would bother me, but I would not have defined myself as gender critical and didn't pay much attention to it.

ACTUALLESBIANS PEAKED ME. THANKS, GUYS.

Meme about lesbians not getting pregnant? "AcTuAlLy some lesbians have dicks"

Post about pussy? "AcTuAlLy some women have dicks"

Everything is a trigger. The obvious narcissism and mental illness, the anime pictures, the constant seeking of validation, the silencing of women. The objectification of women and how the "transbians" ALWAYS talk about women like straight men with male privilege and this insane entitlement to lesbians. The blatant fetishizing. Something wasn't right.

That's how I peaked, been about a year now and I'm even more disgusted and horrified every day.

haveanicedaytoo · 2020-09-09T02:33:23+00:00

Society: Transsexual women are mentally ill gay men who couldn't find any other way to find relief for their dysphoria.

Me: Okay.

Society: Oh, the word transsexual is offensive now, you have to say transgender instead.

Me: Okay, that's dumb, but whatever.

Tumblr: Truscum suck, Tucutes rule!

Me: Kids, get off my lawn!

Society: Oh, by the way, some transgender identified men like to keep their penises for... reasons...

Me: I really don't care about this.

Society: But evil TERFS are trying to murder trans women and eat trans babies.

Me: That's totally fine.

Society: Oh, by the way, trans identified men can be lesbians.

Me: Wat?

Society: Yes.

Me: No.

Society: Also we're transing thousands of confused children, some younger than the age of 2. Say goodbye to tomboys, butches, femme boys, and any child who has ever wanted to play with a toy designated for the other sex.

Me: No.

Society: Uwu.

Me: No.

8bitgay · 2020-09-09T02:51:12+00:00

I think what "peaked" me maybe wasn't even the TQ+ people themselves, but the double standards. Around 3, 4 years ago I started noticing more and more aggressiveness and negativity towards gay men. Not only from TQ+, by the way, this also came from gay/bi men and straight/bi women (lesbian women tended to be cool). At the same time, the whole "gay men feel attracted to transmen"/"transmen are also gay" discourse started getting more popular.

And more and more I started noticing the double standards. People were being very negative towards gay men and towards gayness as a whole for poor reasons, while trans/queer men got away with doing much worse. 5, 6 years ago I saw people saying that gay men need to feel attracted to transmen, but it was a fringe viewpoint. A couple years ago, though, I saw it becoming more and more mainstream among gay groups.

Around the same time, the term "incel" was getting popular and lots of people were criticizing incel guys, or saying that this and that was an incel-like attitude. I guess this was part of the issue too, because it was kinda surreal to see people talking so much about straight incel guys but being unable to see the incel attitudes going inside of the LGBTQ+ community.

Aurelius · 2020-09-09T02:13:17+00:00

When I turned to find a new friend and then possibly girlfriend on lesbian communities, and I kept getting responses from trans girls over and over and over again. On plenty of fish, I politely rejected someone and they just went off! I cleared my account and went to look up what terf meant.

Now I just rot alone. Every once in a while I'll join a community, have them try and set me up with a "cute trans girl" and I'd leave.

I just need to close if the lesbian side of myself off the become a monk to meditate away my suffocating loneliness.

CAB_Life · 2020-09-09T08:11:03+00:00

I think it was a Riley Denis video—don’t know that I need to go into more explanation there. Shortly thereafter I saw that Teen Vogue piece where they denied the existence of gender and one transwoman said she was scientifically, biologically female. Like, I was fine playing make believe with these people, as a courtesy, up until they started attempting to rewrite reality and shitting on women’s and LGB rights in the process.

Jessica Yaniv obviously deserves special mention for any number of “peakings”.

cokolada90 · 2020-09-09T02:44:15+00:00

Meeting some of the ROGD people in real life. There's something irky about meeting a 20 year old trans NB (AMAB) whose interests are dirtbikes, anime, and star wars and then trying to interact with them like a woman. I could also tell that the whole transition thing was like a shoe that didn't fit well. It served some purpose I guess, but ultimately you could see that there were better things they could be doing with their life.

The online communities (where most of them hang out) are clearly toxic places too. So many people asking if they are trans and other people telling them that they are. Totally inappropriate, people can't tell young people / kids online whether or not they are trans because they can't possible know that. Egg_irl is a mess with people pointing to symptoms of depression, anxiety, ASD, AGP, body image problems etc. and making out that they mean they're trans and should transition. It's a rule on mtf (or ftm I can't remember) that you can't state that you need dysphoria to be trans as a fact. The opposite rule doesn't apply though. It's like they're a cult.

I don't buy into the belief that trans people unilaterally don't exist, the HSTS / AGP idea seems fairly solid to me. I don't even think that teenage transition should be banned in all cases. However, the ROGD stuff and the appalling way the medical community has responded (ideologically not scientifically) makes me so upset. They should be the doctors that they were trained to be and take some damn responsibility for these kids.

Also, seeing young girls get told on AL that it's transphobic not to date a transwoman after they said they don't want to because they don't like dick. It is really, really creepy to tell a young woman what her sexual boundaries should be.

MezozoicGay · 2020-09-09T05:55:10+00:00

It started with my ex-boyfriend transitioning and starting saying he is better woman than women, and completely peaked me - Vancouver Rape Relief situation.

Chunkeeguy · 2020-09-09T02:54:12+00:00

I've always been uncomfortable with it because pretty much every transwoman I met, and there were plenty due to my career, was batshit crazy, scarily narcissistic or on several cases downright evil. There were a couple of exceptions who are perfectly nice people these days but had their moments. When former "lesbians" started transitioning to become gay men complete with leather fetishes, I was done.

worried19 · 2020-09-09T02:11:06+00:00

Initially, what drew me in was BDSM. I first started exploring GC on Reddit because I was sick and tired of the pro-kink attitudes on literally every other sub. I guess that was my gateway. I thought they were wrong about trans issues at first. What really changed my mind on that was child transition. Lurking 4thwavenow and reading more on GC and participating in the debate sub made me super aware of what was being done to kids, including extremely young kids. As a GNC adult who was also a GNC child, that disturbed me greatly.

3MistersAndAMissy · 2020-09-09T02:51:29+00:00

I was always very medical/mental health advocacy about it

Then came the ‘you don’t need to have gender dysphoria to be trans’ and the the non-binary crap.

I was ok with parroting TWAW until I saw what it actually meant

RedEyedWarrior · 2020-09-09T11:08:39+00:00

It’s hard for me to pinpoint what exactly peaked me, because my support for the trans community experienced death by a thousand cuts. I can give a few examples though.

Beginning in 2015, the T was getting more attention than the other three letters. At the time I tried to be understanding, but GLB people also faced discrimination and continue to do so.
In 2016, I came across those Tumblr Twats on YouTube, like Milo Stewart and Riley Dennis. I also came across YouTubers who called them out, including Blair White. At this point, I stopped believing in non-binary being legitimate and I stopped supporting transgender children.
Also in 2016, the debate surrounding Canada's Bill C16 redpilled me on the LGBT movement. I finally realised that the movement's tactics and behaviour can be counterproductive.
In 2017, Bill C16 passed. Transtrenders became even more obnoxious. Theryn Meyer went barking mad, became an SJW and he is now simping for non-binary people.
Also in 2017, I returned to college and joined the Pride Society. The first meeting all they talked about were pronouns and gender neutral toilets. I stopped going after that.
In 2018, I began listening to people who oppose trans ideology and I started to sympathise with them. I still supported transgender people, but I also learned that Ireland’s gender identity law was bad. I’ve also witnessed the appalling treatment of Ariella Scarcella by the TQ crowd and their white nights.
In 2019, I stopped watching Blair White. He didn’t go SJW like Theryn Meyer did. But Blair had a butthurt reaction to some random person saying he was a liberal and he called that person names. Also saw signs that his boyfriend, Joey White, is a closet case. I unsubscribed very fast.
It was still 2019, and after all of that coverage in the news about transgender children (#SaveJames), censorship of those critical of transgender discourse, people getting fired or even arrested for misgendering people and trans people in general behaving badly, as well as the TQ dominating LGB spaces, I stopped supporting transgender rights.
Finally, in October 2019, I saw Mister Metokur’s video about transsexuality on BitChute. Now I think that sex reassignment surgeries should be illegal. I was already against transgender people at that point in time, but this video ensured that I will never change my mind.

So there you have it. My journey from blindly supporting an insidious ideology to strongly opposing it.

deliciousdogfood · 2020-09-09T03:04:30+00:00

The idea that anyone needed to reconsider their sexual orientation to be "inclusive uwu". Not that I had much love for the hyper progressive, whiny in your face attitudes of the LGBTQIABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ123456789+=/*% to begin with.

That was it. Heelturned immediately on their whole rhetoric once I learned of the kind of disgusting shit they're trying to manipulate people into with emotional and moral blackmail. It was all downhill from there when I learned about the kind of thing the gender woowoo crowd were doing, especially to kids (CPS please save desmondisamazing)

Guess I'm all archaic and old fashioned about this kind of thing. I mean, its 2020, my body LICHERALLY exists to be an object of pleasure for the oppressed uwu.

florasis · 2020-09-09T10:12:57+00:00

I know that in muslim countries like Iran gay people are pressurized into transition.The most homophobi people tend to prefer pretending their child is the wrong sex rather than accepting they're homosexual. It's clear how this gender ideology is particulary dangerous to gender non conforming kids, and gender non conforming is common in gay. I myself said to be a boy as a child, even if I'm feminine today and would never want to be a male in any way, but I wanted to stay with females and girls role was boring to me. And so, many others lesbians have the same story. Then I started to see more and more dick related shit in lesbians space. I can tolerate living in a dick-centric world, but having shit like that in supposed female exclusive space is just too much. USA is powerful, if shit gets bigger there, it will come in Europe too and started seeing similar arguments in my country, it was just too much. Was glad to know normal and sane homosexuals who are sick of gay movement turning into a shit-show for problematic straight people.

a_blue_bird · 2020-09-09T08:02:10+00:00

(1) was a pro-tra libfem (not an activist, online or off, but I did believe most of it)
(2) dated an MTF
(3) realized that the current pro-trans discourse is pure bs and gaslighting (peak 1)
(4) posted about my experiences on (liberal) feminist subreddit, was downvoted and dismissed as a troll, because ''this never happens'' (peak 2)
(5) joined groups like r/itsafetish, started reading trans subs to find material for that sub (peak 3)
(6) found out about all the censorship in science, academia, journalism etc. etc. that the TRAs are pushing (peak 4)
(7) saw what impact admitting MTFs in lesbian spaces has on that space (peak 5, referring to r/AL obviously)

It's one of many reasons why I believe that internet is one of the main drivers of the spread of irrational ideas like these. If every day you see 10 people who constantly repeat x, y, z (transwomen are just like women, there is no difference, etc. etc.), but you never encounter this phenomenon in the real life (I did not know any trans people IRL), then you begin to believe those statements. And when you encounter the real thing, you begin explaining away all the incongruences, because you ''already know'' how it is ''supposed'' to be, and also you don't want to be a ''bigot'' by seeing the biological reality if your political ideology demands seeing something else. But I can only lie to myself for so long.

ThiccDropkick · 2020-09-09T12:53:22+00:00

Increasingly seeing vaguely disguised hompohobia from trans people. I know there are idiots in every group but what began to disturb me was how many people were agreeing with them and calling anything else "transphobia".

I heard about DropTheT on Reddit because someone mentioned on another sub how awful it was but as soon as I went there I found it actually wasn't that bad at all.

Then it was gone and every sub that didn't worship trans people got banned with the agressively anti-TERF subs left alone to thrive in typical Reddit fashion. That's what prompted me to actively seek out this sub on SaidIt (a website I never used).

julesburm1891 · 2020-09-09T11:51:20+00:00

Encountering an obvious AGP transbian in real life.

RedEyedWarrior · 2020-09-09T11:13:50+00:00

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unfun · 2020-09-09T11:49:08+00:00

Just, "Am I valid?"

"I want to be a biromantic lesbian, am I valid?"

"I'm a butch transbian, am I valid?"

I don't get the obsession with the word or what it means for them. Valid has the same reaction from me that other people get from "problematic."

Uranian · 2020-09-09T06:25:52+00:00

The aggressive response to a Suzanne Moore article in The Guardian where she was talking about women and body image and said the ideal shape, as far as men were concerned, was that of a Brazilian transsexual. Then the monstering of RuPaul.

ThrowMeAway2879 · 2020-09-09T07:36:54+00:00

It was a lot of different small incidents. It started with the trans shitstorm re the 2015 movie Stonewall, a somewhat average movie, but still a studio produced movie about the Stonewall riots intended for the big screen and a mainstream audience. They sunk the film with a concerted campaign against it, because 'a black trans woman threw the first stone!!!oneeleven'. And everyone with half a brain who looked into it, immediately realized that this was a false narrative.

That was the first time I really went 'wait... now hold on, just a minute! Something's fishy here!'

Then there was tumblr continuing to crank out the nasty claims that if you are not attracted to trans people, you need to examine your sexual attraction. It was a trickle at first, but in the five years since this has not been stamped out, but instead it has grown more sophisticated (and more insidious) and morphed into "It's not transphobic to not be attracted to a specific trans person, but it is transphobic to exclude all of them."

So, there was not a single case that pushed me over the edge, but more of a steady stream that slowly eroded my willingness to see TWAW and TMAM as a benign social affirmation.

xandit · 2020-09-09T12:00:56+00:00

reading gc peak stories peaked me, especially when I discovered what cooton ceiling was

haveanicedaytoo · 2020-09-09T23:20:45+00:00

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qwerty- · 2020-09-09T15:33:24+00:00

when my friend told me he was "non-binary" it didn't make any sense. when i pointed it out he got pissed. then when i looked more into this i realized "oh shit! the 'harmless' trans and non bianary people are actually really shitty and engage in predatory behavior regularly!" the aggression and immature behavior the tq+ does regularly made me decide to not want to be associated with them.

almost forgot to mention the whining, always whining about EVERYTHING. a joke? BAD! science? BAD!

immersang · 2020-09-09T16:59:43+00:00

I can't nail it down to one event. As many here, I'm sure, this happened over the time. Many small cuts, so-to-say.

But one thing that really stuck with me and made me realize how this was going into a completely wrong direction was this: There is a drag performer who won the Eurovision Song Contest in 2014. A few years after that I read an article about this performer and then made the mistake to look into the comments. And there were TRAs yelling at people who were correctly calling that person a "he" and being dramatic about how people "just don't GET it".

And with "correctly" I not only mean in the sense of "men cannot be women", but in the sense of "this is a gay man, who himself has mentioned that he identifies as a gay men openly many times, and who just has a stage persona as a drag queen". And these people were trying to trans him, essentially against his own will. (In fact, I think by now he has dumped this stage persona and only performs as himself anymore.)

Yeah, that was one of the moments that stuck with me in the sense of "WHERE is this headed?!".

Q-Continuum-kin · 2020-09-09T17:17:07+00:00

I didn't care too much until people started blaming transpeoples mental instability on everyone and everything around them. I had a friend get excommunicated from his gay friend group for making the statement that he lost his virginity after he hooked up with a FtM. The FtM went berserk and dropped out of all classes and had to be put on suicide watch all because the idea of PIV sex was different from gay sex. They kicked him out of all their social circles because of the literally INSANE reaction of the FtM. This was 10 years ago. It's crazy that people are willing to blame everything except the actual source of the insanity.

This was compounded later by another incident where a MtF went after their boyfriend with a knife because, again, they went fucking insane and then people were acting sympathetic to the knife wielding maniac instead of the person who was attacked.

wafflegaff · 2020-09-09T18:20:41+00:00

It's a blur now, it came in waves. I do remember that something about the constant drumbeat of "TERF" just made me wonder what the heck people were so rabid about and start looking for explanations. I heard about the Reddit version of this sub from the GC sub at some point. Also, reading about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meghan_Murphy#Twitter_ban_and_lawsuit

INeedSomeTime · 2020-09-09T13:51:16+00:00

I think I've never been on board with tucute stuff. I have always found it ridiculous so I followed the truscum stuff. But I peaked when I came across r/detrans.

bastetkat · 2020-09-09T19:02:53+00:00

When I decided to lurk on a radfem tumblr blog after seeing a bunch of tumblr queers attack her for being a “TERF”. I know that some people here hate radfems, but they helped me peak trans.

There were of course plenty of other peak trans moments after that, but there are just too many to remember.

MyLongestJourney · 2020-09-09T20:28:13+00:00

The Michigan Womyn's Music Festival getting harassed by TRAs.Thanks to Gendertrender blog for alerting me to this madness.

ImNOTRobertPaulson · 2020-09-09T20:52:29+00:00

It wasn't one thing, but thinking critically and challenging my thoughts. I realized that my previous ideas were not really my own. I believed what I was supposed to believe to be woke and not "discriminatory." I then realized that is not a good basis to build upon. Making people like me worry about being "inclusive" enough at all times is just a way to police and control what people think.

Around the same time, I began seeing lgbt organizations and media outlets celebrating anyone trans, and I couldn't get behind making people like Caitlyn Jenner or Fallon Fox out to be heroes. I was also becoming aware that in a lot of woke circles, everything was about identity. I'm a cis (god I hate that term) white gay male, so I must not have struggled or faced oppression like a trans person or someone else of a different identity. It didn't matter that I was bullied heavily in high school, to the point I started taking classes at a community college in Junior year so I wouldn't have to physically go back to the high school. Nor did it matter I was sexually abused when I was a kid. All that mattered was I was a white guy, so I had "privilege."

Finally, I'm very science based in almost all other aspects of my life. I couldn't explain to myself why I believed science about things like climate change or astrophysics, but disregarded it when it came to simple biology. Also, gender theory lost me when there became so many different genders.

SerpensInferna · 2020-09-10T01:27:56+00:00

It was a combination of behavior I saw on reddit and pretty much every single TRA I met in real life.

JulienMayfair · 2020-09-11T00:17:33+00:00

A big part of it was the trans-washing of LGB History, but my true peak came in 2018 when I was volunteering for the local Democratic Party and got assigned to do poll-greeting in a semi-rural, somewhat conservative area. I dressed accordingly in a shirt and tie. Working with me was a transwoman -- or rather a tall, big-boned guy in a badly-fitting dress and a bad wig. He was also being very creepy to people, looming over them and talking at them in a very loud (and deep) voice. I'm pretty sure he didn't help our cause at all. If anything, he probably encouraged people to vote Republican.

And you know what? Sorry, but you should have sufficient self-awareness to know that that's the effect you would have. I wouldn't have gone to work that precinct dressed in leather chaps and a harness or wearing an old Silence = Death t-shirt. It wasn't the right situation for that.

After working with "her" for a few hours, it occurred to me that there was nothing about this person that seemed like any woman I had every met in my entire life. Everything about him from mannerisms to appearance to body language to voice to behavior screamed "male." He may very well have been autistic, too. I wouldn't be surprised.

That sent me to r/GenderCritical, and I started reading.

strawberrycake · 2020-09-12T16:54:43+00:00

I was a heavy Tumblr user several years ago. Deep in the queer theory shit. I had several identities including “genderfluid” and the like.

What started to peak me was the “genital fetish” discourse. It had me so angry that I went down the rabbit hole. I soon discovered that Marsha P Johnson didn’t throw the first brick and identified as a gay drag queen (this was all on Wikipedia). I found the LGB Drop the T community a bit before it was banned. Now I’m here.

I’ve of course re-identified as a gay male. Accepting that has done way more for my mental health than the “explore your gender” crowd.

HelloMomo · 2020-09-12T03:17:51+00:00

I was always pretty skeptical, but I didn't know there was an alternative. I thought unless I could get onboard with that stuff, I'd be really lonely, and have to hang out with all straight people.

Then, during quarantine, it seems like all the detrans girls made youtube channels and the algorithm fed me those videos. And they're so smart and sensible. (And several are cute butches. Not to be vain, but...)

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