Is this what woke homophobia looks like 😓

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[–]loveSloaneSuperDuperBi 59 insightful - 6 fun59 insightful - 5 fun60 insightful - 6 fun -  (14 children)

Someone really said “you see an unwilling cis gay man, grab a knife and teach him a lesson”.

And 62 people agreed with them. This is madness.

[–]IridescentAnacondastrictly dickly 41 insightful - 4 fun41 insightful - 3 fun42 insightful - 4 fun -  (12 children)

Why don't these gay transmen date each other if the penis isn't so important?

Or better yet, they could save themselves a whole lot of trouble by dating straight men who have fully functioning penises and actually want vaginas.

[–]EverydayIsSad[S] 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I know you know all the answers to those questions! But I'm going to answer them for anyone who doesn't know, because those are good questions! The answer is people who believe in gender identity separate genitals from sex (many of them even think sex is a social construct) and think a man can have a vagina or a woman can have a penis. Obviously that's impossible and is a false belief. But the point is the women who believe they are men go from this basic false belief: that a man can have a vagina and a woman can have a penis. Since they think they are men, and they are attracted to men, they think they are gay men and should date gay men now, because gay men are men only attracted to men.

And when gay men reject these women, they call them "transphobe" because they think: "a man can have a vagina! why don't these gay men accept men with vaginas, we are still men".

The gender identity belief is really messy, and sinister.

[–]Rosefield 28 insightful - 1 fun28 insightful - 0 fun29 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The trans crowd invented their own rules about how sexuality works and are super angry that homosexuality doesn't work like they want.

They want identity valitation 24/7

They want sex with the people they chose

They want the l & g communities to be all about them

From their pov homosexuals chose to reject them because of hate. They believe homosexuality is a choice and not dating trans people is a bad choice.

These people are homophobic lunatics.

[–]EverydayIsSad[S] 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

100% agree with you! The people that believe in gender identity are homophobic, all of them. They are separated into two groups of: 1) women and men who force gay people to consider sleeping or dating the opposite sex, the method they use: brainwashing gay people to believe "men can have vaginas too" or "women can have penises too". And 2) gay/bi people who hate being gay/bi and believe in gender identity to erase their existence as gay and act like they are straight (e.g. Blaire White, the reason he thinks he is a woman in a straight relationship is because he has internalized homophobia and hates being gay. And just a bit ago I heard the lesbian Ellen Page thinks she is a man, I bet on this it's because she has internalized homophobia and wants to erase her existence as a gay woman).

Why don't gender identity believers ever target straight people? Because it's on their agenda to convert gay people and gay people only. And that got me to oppose those who believe in gender identity immediately

[–][deleted] 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The more you analyze trans 'logic' the more you come to see that they don't believe their own bullshit.

Most 'gay' transmen don't date other transmen because on an innately visceral level they are turned off by vagina. They also know that would mean they don't see transmen (including themselves) as real men. They know their identity rests on a house of cards. They're also homophobic so they don't understand that actual gay men feel the same way they do about vagina. They hide behind phrases like 'other transmen make me dysphoric' if anyone questions their hypocrisy, but the reality is these are straight girls so of course they don't want vagina. It's a really simple and sad line of reasoning.

They try to bully everyone else into blind acceptance because if they are anything but steadfast in their beliefs that gives others a chance to see all of the holes in their logic. That's why so many of them try to deplatform and silence the opposing side.

They white knight and virtue signal so hard because that's all they have to stand on when you peel back the layers of trans 'logic'.

[–]IridescentAnacondastrictly dickly 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The gender identity belief is really messy, and sinister.

I have a relatively simple model of the moral universe: most things that are "sinister" are divorced from nature/reality (which encompasses the biological world as well as, IMHO, some things that most people in our society would view as "supernatural") and vice-versa: most things that are divorced from nature/reality end up being sinister one way or another.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 18 insightful - 8 fun18 insightful - 7 fun19 insightful - 8 fun -  (3 children)

For same reason why transbians not dating each other.

[–]blackrainbow 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Some transbians date each other, they are simply homo/bi or AGP

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Two in a million maybe.

[–]GConly 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No penis. Same reason straight women won't date transmen.

Straight cis women are getting by far the least flak in this shit show.

[–]GConly 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

But that doesn't validate their maleness.

[–]IridescentAnacondastrictly dickly 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's some next-level narcissism to make your life completely unworkable just to gather up meager scraps of validation for a completely delusional fantasy.

I'm a simple man, I am just interested in le cocque, I'll do whatever pragmatic thing is necessary to get it.

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's some next-level narcissism to make your life completely unworkable just to gather up meager scraps of validation for a completely delusional fantasy.

Well, yeah. These people are mentally ill.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 11 insightful - 6 fun11 insightful - 5 fun12 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

https://saidit.net/s/LGBDropTheT/comments/6rq1/i_fcking_hate_gay_people/

[–]bastetkat 35 insightful - 11 fun35 insightful - 10 fun36 insightful - 11 fun -  (18 children)

I really want to compile a list of screenshots like this from both TRAs and incels. I’ll edit out the “trans/cis”, and ask people to guess if a TRA or an incel wrote it for each screenshot.

[–]reluctant_commenter 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Just so you know, we have had a couple of lists going before! Here's my list:

https://saidit.net/s/LGBDropTheT/comments/60sj/why_do_you_want_to_drop_the_t/nkjx

Copied:

  • Homophobia.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Sgz9aR2BxPH4JgqA7

https://lesbian-rights-nz.org/shame-receipts/

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOwetuUmIgGwmTmu9rcxDdWeOMbKpckEyvqpT49pz2yemZYS3rNYqH16pZc5IuLcQ?fbclid=IwAR1fy1NEsXmMrkiGvgbFy-vXhiMaL2g6ahSl4hPKR3PKAy6QfuIA8qhpLPo&key=VVlEX21sNXAzVEprMGZmWmNqd3RPc1RiN095STdn

https://terfisaslur.com/

  • Modern transgender ideology is a belief system filled with inconsistencies.

https://www.womenarehuman.com/transparadoxes-self-contradictions-of-the-gender-identity-movement/

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Thank you for compiling this. I do maintain that we need those sources to be located outside of google photos because of the security concerns. But I am far from a tech person so I don't know who created the source and what the best alternatives are.

I didn't see the transparadox resource until recently, and it's great. The contradictions are seemingly endless. I think my gateway transparadox was thinking "is this a freaking medical condition or not?" Like you're saying if people don't get medical intervention in the form of hormone blockers, exogenous hormones, and various surgeries, they will commit suicide, but this isn't a medical issue? And doctors shouldn't be allowed to do anything but affirm, administer drugs, and perform surgery? And then on top of that, still only self-ID is needed? If they need all these procedures or else they'll commit suicide, why is self-ID the standard and not getting those procedures ? Like are these medical interventions necessary or not and, if so, how are they not medical? Yea, anyway, that spirals into so many more paradoxes.

I would like there to be a similar source, which is something to the effect of "false gotchas." Like things they point to as examples for one thing, but are really indicative of something else entirely (and often something distasteful or sinister). This isn't a great example, but in response to the GC argument that transgenderism doesn't challenge gender stereotypes but is premised on gender stereotypes and in effect reinforces them (i.e. if you are female and don't comport with X Y Z stereotypes for women, that means you're not a woman or accepting an individual female's lack of identification with womanhood based on failure to comport with those stereotypes as a valid basis for her to not be considered a woman), and pointing to opportunists who have no intention of "passing" as examples where this is not the case (e.g., the insulting "butch transbian" concept).

[–]reluctant_commenter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Of course, no problem!! I totally agree that Google Photos is not the best way to save and display these. I am also concerned about security issues and anyway, I don't even know who's hosting those links.

I didn't see the transparadox resource until recently, and it's great. The contradictions are seemingly endless.

Right?! I think that one is actually my favorite, especially for asking pretending-I'm-dumb questions to TRAs. People never have a good answer, lol.

Like you're saying if people don't get medical intervention in the form of hormone blockers, exogenous hormones, and various surgeries, they will commit suicide, but this isn't a medical issue? And doctors shouldn't be allowed to do anything but affirm, administer drugs, and perform surgery? And then on top of that, still only self-ID is needed?

YUP.

Your idea of "false gotchas" is a great one. E.g. "what about intersex people?! The existence of intersex people means that trans people are real!" is probably a good one. Same lines: "There are some people who don't have XX or XY chromosomes, therefore gender is complicated!" when they also say that gender != sex... lol.

Maybe this is something I should message the mods about for input, but I would love a more permanent place to share some of these resources-- links, statistics, etc. We really have a pretty good collection going over the course of the past several months just from posts in this sub, but I keep sharing resources in one-off conversations with individuals. It would be nice if we could have a link to some of these on the sidebar, or something. Do you have any ideas for increasing visibility of these sorts of links and resources?

edit: I could think of categories like:

  • arguments TRAs make ("transparadoxes" and your "false gotchas" list idea)

  • homophobic pro-transgender comments (the 4 links I shared, for example)

  • news articles about transing children / homophobic motivations for transgender medical interventions (links we could easily share with friends and family, like this: https://archive.is/zy6PA)

  • research studies and statistics that illuminate some of the red flags of trans medicalization (e.g. super high rates of autism spectrum disorder, PDs, anxiety disorders, etc. but no screening for them when people show up to get puberty blockers)

We do have a little organization of this stuff already, with tags on posts, but many posts are not tagged and many people don't think to sort by tags, anyway.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Do you have any ideas for increasing visibility of these sorts of links and resources?

Someone with a background in marketing would have a better idea. Actually my best friend is in marketing and she can be rather blasé about misinformation campaigns/Cambridge Analytica type things because she’s like “yea that’s what marketing is.” She’s terven thankfully. She and her bf peaked through me because as I was peaking, I was sharing with her all of the stuff I was learning as I was learning it and developing my thinking. So I should check with her on some of this.

I have also thought that it would be helpful if we had a poll that where we can, anonymously to the extent we need to, enter the fields we work in, so that we can understand where our expertise lies. We all have different strengths we can bring to the table and we are each best suited to put together materials based in our own areas of expertise. I wouldn’t have peaked or learned what sources I could trust/distrust on these issues until I had enough personal knowledge that I could tell who was lying (“Nobody is saying/doing X” when I had experienced countless examples). So scary to have so little scrutiny (or knowing lies) at what are supposed to be the highest levels of journalism.

[–]reluctant_commenter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So I should check with her on some of this.

Sounds good. I might try to find some examples of well-organized resource lists on Reddit subs, that we could model after.

I have also thought that it would be helpful if we had a poll that where we can, anonymously to the extent we need to, enter the fields we work in, so that we can understand where our expertise lies. We all have different strengths we can bring to the table and we are each best suited to put together materials based in our own areas of expertise.

That sounds like a fantastic idea!! I think if we had a poll like that, people would be interested. If we're concerned about anonymity, I know PeakingPeachEater is into cybersecurity, maybe she would have some tips...

[–]zerosis 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Thank you for this!!

[–]reluctant_commenter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Of course, no prob :) if you know of any other ones feel free to let me know!

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This makes for some depressing reading, but important that these are collated, because they just want to pee in peace, after all.

[–]fuckupaddamsBisexual Terve 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is so fucking disgusting

[–]EverydayIsSad[S] 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I want to compile more screenshots too! Let's get some from twitter next. I'll start in a bit. When I find something I'll dm you (≧∀≦)

[–]reluctant_commenter 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Don't know if you saw, but I responded to the same person you did with 4 lists that have been started elsewhere throughout the internet.

BUT, I think it would be useful if we had one that's sourced from s/lgbdropthet, and that's up-to-date!

[–]EverydayIsSad[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I just saw it!!! Thank you so much! I'm saving the photos up, the list you have is huge and is exactly what we need when people ask "so what did the trans people say to gay people that is so homophobic"

[–]reluctant_commenter 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Of course, no problem!! :) I have to be clear, I didn't compile any of these so I can't take credit! I just try to share them whenever I can, so that we can get more awareness out there. I keep meaning to compile a more extensive list of stats and resources like that...

Also-- I hope you don't mind me asking, your username suggests you're feeling bleak, are you doing okay?

[–]EverydayIsSad[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Sorry for the late reply, I fell asleep, and just got back online ಥ_ಥ (◕︿◕✿)

I'm still so thankful you share these in your list with me and others. These are very important, especially when we need to show them to those who know nothing of the homophobia that is so inherent to the gender identity ideology. That can open their eyes!

And you're so kind to ask me how I'm doing, I'm better today than I was a few days ago. Most days I'm too numb to get up from the bed every morning, and the few things that make me happy just don't do the job sometimes. But I'm still trying here and fighting to make myself feel better (ง •̀ω•́)ง✧

What about you? How are you doing?

[–]reluctant_commenter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Of course, no problem!! And you don't have to apologize haha, I've had people reply to me weeks later. (Shit, I think I actually forgot to respond to someone, I just remembered...)

Most days I'm too numb to get up from the bed every morning, and the few things that make me happy just don't do the job sometimes.

I really feel that... I really feel that, dude. I'm sorry to hear that's how it's been for you. I am also still fighting that fight, but it's felt like quite a struggle recently. Glad you're here and doing your best, I have mad respect for that :) is all the TRA stuff getting you down, or more stuff outside of these topics?

I'm doing okay.. I've really been struggling to enjoy a lot of the hobbies I normally do. At this point, my fallback plan is to just keep taking walks everyday and doing the bare minimum, and try to make it through to next year, lol. I know, super inspiring. Thanks for asking. :)

[–]EverydayIsSad[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You're really funny and I mean this, you made me laugh when I got to "shit I forgot to respond to someone" and "I know, super inspiring"!! (≧∀≦)

First it was just existence itself that was an issue, it was/is hard for me to deal with but when I saw the number of people supporting trans people and their gender identity ideology increase I started feeling worse. So many gay men and gay women have gotten hurt because of them. Everyday I lost more hope, until now I believe it will get worse, one day no sane human would be left and everyone would be brainwashed ༼☯﹏☯༽ At least we got each other and this place for now. I hope what I think will happen doesn't actually happen though.

I completely feel you. I know it’s been a rough ride. But that you have made it this far is really something brave! Amidst all the bad things that happen in existence, you are continuously making it through. You are getting stronger and stronger each day! You have to give yourself credit for that. We are fighting the same battle so don't worry, we can help each other get through it even more easily. I wish I could give you and everyone here a real hug but because I can't a virtual hug is the least I can do hugs you ⊂(´・ω・｀⊂)

[–]reluctant_commenter 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Aw, thanks!! I'm glad you think so :)

First it was just existence itself that was an issue, it was/is hard for me to deal with

Oof. I feel that. No idea what else you've got going on in your life, but I hope you find peace soon.

Everyday I lost more hope, until now I believe it will get worse, one day no sane human would be left and everyone would be brainwashed

Nuh uh, they are NEVER going to get me!

Thank you... that's really kind. I appreciate the virtual hug, right back atcha. :)

[–]SilverWolf 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That won't be too hard, TRAs always have use 'cis' to describe us, incels will just say women

[–]CatsOrGoHome 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

we are infiltrating spaces of gay men without them noticing and when they do it's too late

They are now doing what they did to lesbians and women. Sad times.

[–]CleverNickName 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

also, "too late" for what? You know, I know, but what do they think they're implying by "too late"? Who, other than cartoon villains, say out loud "we'll infiltrate them until it's too late for them to X" ??

[–]CatsOrGoHome 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It makes sense for them to have that cartoony villain view when they spend everyday thinking it is them versus the world.

[–]CuntWorshiperWomenholic full time | vagina fetishist part-time 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You see unwillingly cis gay man, grab a knife and teach him a lesson, that easy.

Even if this was supposed to be a “joke” ... No, just no 🤢🤮

[–]diapason 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You see unwillingly cis gay man, grab a knife and teach him a lesson, that easy.

Holy shit they're deranged

[–]Rosefield 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

the wrong kind of gay

For trans lunatics - The "right" kind of gay isn't gay at all. This "right" kind of gay is a sex & validation slave for mentally ill straights.

[–]JulienMayfair 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We refuse to believe in gender identity because there's no particularly compelling evidence that such a thing exists, much less that it's some kind of immutable characteristic.

[–]our_team_is_winning 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

"I'm working my ass off to get rid of my vagina" !?!?

[–]worried19 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

They can remove the vagina? I thought bottom surgery for trans men just involved sewing the vaginal opening shut.

Which sounds dangerous and potentially life threatening.

[–]Eurowoman24 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

i'm thinking they mean yeet the uterus, ovaries, and sew arm fat to the vag

[–]RiverSong 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I remember back on r/gendercritical there was a case discussed of a women, uhm ... I mean a trans MAN, who was camping outside of a clinic in London in protest. She was there for some kind of gender surgery, and they removed her vagina (= vaginal channel, I guess). But, surprise, for some reason she wanted to be a man, but still wanted to keep her vagina. Not making fun of someone who received a surgery that they not actually requested ... but I find it absurd to claim to be a MAN, but still desire PIV-sex, and the possibility of pregnancy. Not that manly after all, huh??

[–]worried19 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'll never understand this. If you like your genitals and want to have sex with your natal genitals, what makes you the opposite sex? A lot of trans men even say they want to have kids. You can't get more biologically female than that.

[–]blackrainbow 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's simple, you change reality! Now men can be pregnant too

[–]Eurowoman24 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

agreed. how can you claim to be a gay man or even a straight man and want to still have a vag for either sex scenario, I mean wouldn't you want to be as close to a man as possible ? oh the logical inconsistencies

[–]worried19 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I know they get hysterectomies and phalloplasties, but I didn't think doctors did anything to the vaginal canal. I thought I read in some cases, they sew the opening shut. In others, I'm not sure.

I don't want to know too many details. I'm glad the majority of trans men do not opt for any of these surgeries. It sounds like a lot of money and medical risk for poor results.

[–]jiljol 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Lol, that part made me crack up. So this is a (likely young) woman with severe body dysmorphia that extends to her sexual organs and yet she expects gay men to be interested in her body? If you hate your own body, how the fuck do you expect others to be attracted to it?

[–]GreykittymommaMagical lady 💜 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Can you imagine if any of us started joking about cutting a trans? They would lose what's left of their minds...

[–]CleverNickName 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Them: "transphobes always say the exact same things without ever thinking"

Also them: "why don't these bigots like our wrong genitals, I am the first to ever have this thought, guaranteed"

[–]fuck_reddit 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I know it's kinda obvious at this point, but they are very, deeply, truly mentally disturbed...

[–]blackrainbow 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

There are people who like trans people but they call them chasers of course

[–]GreykittymommaMagical lady 💜 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They say we are obsessed with vaginas and dicks. Ironic since they are the ones who chop them off or make little play dough dicks. If genitals don't make you a man or woman then stop asking for surgery, you have arrived, dumbass.

[–]marmorsymphata 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's almost like we're focused on the men because even the TRA movement forgets about the women. Seriously, you'll see something "transphobic" posted that would hurt FtMs and ALL the comments will be about MtFs' suffering. It was very eye opening for me when JKR's comment about periods brought all the MtFs home to roost, even in all the traitorous rants from celebrities, when in actuality "women have periods" only misgendered FtMs.

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Good luck trying to overpower an actual dude with your 90 lb. 4’10 ass.

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