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[–]reluctant_commenter 79 insightful - 4 fun79 insightful - 3 fun80 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

Just copying for the paper trail. Here's where r/AgainstHateSubreddits, a subreddit that claims to be against "hate" but goes around posting child pornography on the subreddits it dislikes, posted that they are targeting r/BiologicalLesbians:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AgainstHateSubreddits/comments/kgnce5/catalogue_of_all_remaining_major_transphobic/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

And here's the post that AHS claimed was "hateful": https://archive.is/wb4u5

My only consolation is that no matter how much these homophobic people try to deny it, there is only one version of the objective truth-- and no matter how much the transgender ideology tries to obscure it, it WILL prevail in the long run even if it is unpopular now. Some people are exclusively same-sex attracted. There are two sexes in humans, because humans have two types of gametes. And you can play pretend all day, you can even convince other people to play pretend with you, you can even change language so much that there are no words to describe these phenomena anymore, but it will NEVER transform you into something you are not!

Even if the homophobic transgender-identified mods on AHS and AL and all over Reddit managed to turn everyone on the site into a mindless transgender-affirming cyborg, they would still never be satisfied. Because they are not and will never be what they wish they were, and no matter how much pain they inflict on minority groups (remember, trans-identified people way outnumber cisgender L/G/B people, according to Stonewall, GLAAD and multiple other organizations) it won't make a lie true.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 47 insightful - 10 fun47 insightful - 9 fun48 insightful - 10 fun -  (1 child)

r/febfems - "female-exclusive bisexual females" if you were wondering what TF the name even means. Explicitly transphobic in nature - read the sidebar & rules

LMAO.

"Being febfem is transphobic in nature" - all you need to know.

[–][deleted] 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

While I disagree that it's transphobic, it IS radfem coded (radical feminists coined the term & a lot of "febfems" are female-only due to radfem beliefs) so I can see why people are wary.

That being said, the sub doesn't deserve to be banned if 1. it's not spewing hateful extremist ideology and 2. equally questionable (or more so) subs of the OPPOSING ideology, in this case trans, are allowed to exist on the site but this one isn't, which we all know is the case here.

[–]Constantine 26 insightful - 4 fun26 insightful - 3 fun27 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

I clicked on this thread expecting to get depressed about all this shit again, but this comment actually made me feel way better. Very well put, thank you.

[–]reluctant_commenter 36 insightful - 1 fun36 insightful - 0 fun37 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No problem, I'm glad it helped! :)

I think it's important to remember the fact that trans-rights activists want us to feel alone and believe that there are few of us. But that doesn't mean that we are! We're just at the early stages of organizing resistance to the attempted erasure of our communities. It's an intentional tactic that they are employing.

You might appreciate this comment as well, it made me feel better the other day: https://saidit.net/s/LGBDropTheT/comments/6zri/its_like_they_almost_get_it/qn6w

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    [–]automoderatorHuman-Exclusionary Radical Overlord[M] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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    [–]PassionateIntensity 59 insightful - 3 fun59 insightful - 2 fun60 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    Any distinction between "woman" and "transwoman" will not be tolerated. They started with taking 'woman' and moved onto 'female.' Funny how they like to accuse us of trying to erase trans people while they're literally trying to delete or change any word applying to our biological existence.

    [–]PeakingPeachEaterfemale♀ | detrans🦎 | eater of peaches 🍑 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    It's funny that they don't want a distinction between "woman" and "transwomen", but expect ACTUAL women to call ourselves "menustrators", "uterus/vagina-havers", "incubators/breeders" etc and boil us down to our genitals or body parts/functions--which trans people HATE being referrred by--when we only boil trans people to genetics(aka, science, biology). But WE'RE the assholes, supposedly.

    So, hmmm, I wonder which is more degrading? Genetics/chromosomes or telling real women we're merely a "menustrator" and a pair of tits who's only function is "bleeding" and "incubating"?

    Sure, they can call themselves a "woman" all they want even though they're no one to make themselves happy, but they will NEVER be a female, because to be female, is to be born as one.

    edit: word

    [–]julesburm1891 59 insightful - 1 fun59 insightful - 0 fun60 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    In a couple of years, TQ is going to wonder why they’re facing such a strong backlash from literally everyone else. You can’t consistently demand everyone ignore reality and relentlessly bully people with no eventual repercussions.

    [–][deleted] 49 insightful - 2 fun49 insightful - 1 fun50 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    I can't wait until TQ is completely dropped from LGB....

    [–]our_team_is_winning 32 insightful - 1 fun32 insightful - 0 fun33 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    You can’t consistently demand everyone ignore reality

    But they're getting laws passed in many countries. Reality Denial Laws. And using the hard-won gay rights movement as their springboard.

    [–]julesburm1891 40 insightful - 1 fun40 insightful - 0 fun41 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    As Lincoln once said, “You may fool people for a time; you can fool a part of the people all the time; but you can’t fool all the people all the time.” The reality-denial can’t go on forever. Something will have to give eventually.

    [–]Porphyria 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It will be related to children. Maybe children "transed" by parents for reasons of their own that are too obviously not related to the well being of the children (eg James/"Luna") ; maybe a wave of suicides of people given puberty blockers and surgery way too young ; maybe a wave of murders of abusive/'virtue signalling' parents or doctors at the hands of their victims ; maybe too many young girls will be attacked by men who "identify as" 6 year old girls and therefore demand access to children's restrooms (there's a WI schoolteacher who wants access to the student's restrooms, and is being backed by his thrice-damned school board)...maybe some scenario I cannot imagine. But I am sure the backlash will come because of something that is done to children.

    [–]TransspeciesUnicornI sexually identify as a mythical sparkly equine 58 insightful - 2 fun58 insightful - 1 fun59 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    Wow, even a sub that was still basically kowtowing to gender ideology can't stay up? Reddit is such a fucking disgrace these days.

    [–][deleted] 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    As long as the cute cat photos, inane one-minute craft GIFs, twitter screenshots, and massive amounts of pornography flow, I think Reddit is making their $$$. That's what they care about. They don't want any bad press.

    [–][deleted] 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    A fair bit of that press is owned by the very same family that owns Reddit. And Reddit's not profitable on its own - very little media is. Its primary value comes from its ability to shape public opinion - Reddit is a propaganda machine. For people like literally Ghislaine Maxwell.

    [–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah 37 insightful - 18 fun37 insightful - 17 fun38 insightful - 18 fun -  (0 children)

    It's completely believable. There are more mentally ill and personality disordered TRAs per square meter among Reddit mods than in Jonathon Yaniv's bathroom.

    [–][deleted] 45 insightful - 1 fun45 insightful - 0 fun46 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I really just want this nonsense to blow over soon. The fact that acknowledging the biological (read: factual) differences between transgender individuals and non-trans people is somehow a radical or extremist statement is absolute insanity.

    [–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 38 insightful - 1 fun38 insightful - 0 fun39 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    Ah yes, Reddit. The new Tumblr. Seems like Reddit has gotten worse since Tumblr banned porn, as the Tumblrinas increased their presence on Reddit.

    Fuck Reddit. That site is a hugbox where teenagers can be admits and sub mods. Is it any wonder that this site is going to shit?

    [–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 31 insightful - 1 fun31 insightful - 0 fun32 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Problem is that site is big and known, so many young lesbians (especially from homophobic countries) will try to go there to search some help and to understand themselves better in the "more progressive and LGB-friendly western big site", but will get into gaslighting and lesbophobia instead, without even realising that it is just wrong.

    [–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    That is definitely a problem. This is why sites like Reddit are so dangerous. We need to advertise Saidit as an alternative to Reddit as much as possible.

    [–]reluctant_commenter 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Just curious, do you suggest posting about s/lgbdropthet on reddit? I have been trying to think about how to best advertise it. I also wasn't sure if it would be fine to share the link to our page because it might bring a bunch of trolls, and idk how ready moderation is for that.

    [–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Not a mod, so take what I say with a pinch of salt. But I think it’s a good idea to advertise this subsaidit on Reddit.

    [–]reluctant_commenter 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Gotcha, thanks :) I messaged the mods as well to check just in case.

    [–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 35 insightful - 6 fun35 insightful - 5 fun36 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

    Reddit just proving once more that it is not a place for lesbians, and that they hate lesbians and women in general.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/BiologicalLesbians

    [–]HelloMomo 27 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 0 fun28 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    And the thing is, right before the ban, I remember seeing a post that was a rallying cry to not say anything on there that could bring the sub under fire; to kill them with kindness. And it seemed to me that everyone was really toeing that line.

    But that's not enough. It will never be enough for them. We can never have anything for ourselves, no matter how nice and polite we are about it. So I think this banning is probably going to peak some of the more mild-mannered, moderate lesbians from there.

    It sucks today, but in the long run the TRAs are just watering resentment. They'll reap it in the end.

    [–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 25 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 0 fun26 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I confess I was surprised. Like for real, reddit hates lesbians. AskGayBros gets to stay up with harsh critics towards TQ+ ideology while this freaking small sub with 500 hundred members trying to be trans friendly gets banned. Ha.

    [–]butch_woman 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    trans women have more power than trans men. give it time. they'll come for the gay men and then the cis men too.

    [–][deleted] 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    They don't get that this makes everything worse for them. Their shooting themselves in the foot.

    [–]deliciousdogfoodmy name isnt a puppyplay reference i swear 20 insightful - 6 fun20 insightful - 5 fun21 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

    "stop being women, screeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"

    [–]boolean 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    That sub didn't touch any trans topics, just lesbian contents in general. Even trans lesbians can read the contents without being offended. After all, isn't the goal of transition is to be able pass as cis? But noooo, if a sub doesn't celebrate trans people, it's transphobic

    [–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    True or false?

    [–]worried19 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Of course they banned it. It's shocking how homosexuality isn't allowed anymore.

    If any of the banned lesbians want invites to Ovarit, you can PM me here or on Reddit.

    [–]ravenclaww 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    It has come to a point where I wish pansexuality was brought back. It was a sexuality that included attraction to trans-people, and it was in the middle ground where it followed the pronoun people while acknowledging that biological sex exists. Like... they formed BECAUSE the Bs were being too exclusionary. Notice how it hasn't been used as much once TWAW/TMAM rolled around?

    [–][deleted] 18 insightful - 4 fun18 insightful - 3 fun19 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

    I think... pan is now transphobic? Because you have to have a special sexuality to be attracted to trans people? But since TWAW and TMAM so... pan got whacked and Bi is the new hotness? Can I just say my sexual orientation is identity fetishist?

    [–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It has come to a point where I wish pansexuality was brought back. It was a sexuality that included attraction to trans-people, and it was in the middle ground where it followed the pronoun people while acknowledging that biological sex exists.

    Did it really acknowledge that biological sex exists, though?

    My understanding is that it actually did the opposite-- that the term serves to "repeal and replace" the entire concept of bio-sex with "gender". So "pansexual" in fact means "attraction to all genders". Indeed, it's such a complete repudiation of biological sex that it doesn't even pose as a sexual orientation at all (since these are by definition based on bio-sex: your own + that of those to whom you're attracted = sexual orientation), but rather attempts to invent something else entirely: GENDERual orientation (whatever the hell THAT is).

    Still, I'm with you on wanting SOME way for bisexuals to opt out of "trans validation duty"-- let the genderists go pester "pansexuals" instead, by all means! Whether they really exist or not, I don't even care!

    [–][deleted] 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I'm so glad I nuked my reddit account after the initial 'transphobe' ban wave. This is only gonna get worse until it spills over into real life in such a way that thousands of people will peak all at once.

    There's no winning with these people. Bend over backwards for them and it's still not enough unless you admit 2+2=5. It depresses me that displays of blatant misogyny like this still go unchecked, but unfortunately I'm not surprised.

    [–]Smolders1Cock is god's greatest gift. 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    r/askgaybros is next. Mark my fucking words.

    [–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I honestly don't think so. Askgaybros is much more harsh towards TQ ideology by far, has much more members no comparison and is still up. TRAs only go after women's subs.

    [–]Smolders1Cock is god's greatest gift. 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    2 of the subs that were marked down as ‘transphobic’ by AHS a few days ago have been struck down, AGB were included in that.

    I think it’ll be gone in the next banwave.

    [–]fujiwara_armbar 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    oh no, biological patriarchy is oppressing the real womenzzzz with its offensive cultural appropriation /s

    [–]DifferentAirGC 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Is there any way we can let lesbians on reddit know that there are places like saidit and ovarit, which don't include MTFs, without inviting brigaders?

    [–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Maybe do this individually? Find lesbians there who, based on what they've written, seem like they'd be simpatico with these kinds of subs, and PM them?

    [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Go through archived pages, look at the usernames of people who weren't super TWAW, and use a Reddit account to DM those people. Vet them a bit through conversation asking how they feel about the r/BiologicalLesbians ban. If they seem cool then link them to our Saidit communities (or hit them with an invite if it's for Ovarit). Just mention that the majority of Saidit aside from the few LGB subs suck, but we really didn't have anywhere else to go.

    [–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Has there been any discussion on r/askgaybros about this ban? I feel like it’s a relevant enough topic to that subreddit and it could spark some important discussion and also peak more moderate gay and bi men.

    [–]QueenBread 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    As usual, they go against the women groups, but they're too scared to go against men groups. I'm pretty sure they're too coward to do something about gay subreddits. They're afraid other men might do the same thing they're doing, forming an hategroup....... but this time against THEM.

    Please let's try to poke the hornet's nest. Let's try to get men's subs banned by posting "transphobic" stuff with alternate accounts and making crazy demands. This madness will end when it goes against males, and it will definitely blow up in a minute once it goes finally against straight males.

    [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Bad idea. TRAs do enough brigading on their own, there's no need to fake it. r/AGB has been complaining about the trans bait posts for months now. I don't like the idea of putting gay men's spaces in danger just because lesbian spaces have been completely overtaken. Gay men have been realizing the homophobia in the trans movement organically anyway.

    [–]Mandarz11 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    This was the final straw for me using Reddit. Every other LGB sub has turned into a “uwu am I valid” karma dump.

    [–]worried19 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    They also just banned r/AndreasGarden.

    [–]windrunner 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Unbelievable? No, it was already coming. This goes to show that (and this is for the lurkers here) no matter how much you support, believe, chant the mantra and 'validate' the delusions, they will still ban and deplatform you if you engage in a single act of wrongthink. You'll still be called derogatory names and branded part of a hate group. You will be shamed, coerced and threatened. Because that's they do and what they've been doing for women, lesbians, gay men and bisexuals who don't eat their bullshit.

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