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[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The fact that this was published in 2018 makes all the difference. Since late 2019/early 2020, this would not be allowed to be published.

[–]justagaydude123 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That makes more sense.

[–]reluctant_commenter 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Gotcha, that makes more sense. I was really surprised this was allowed to be published.

[–]KingDickThe2nd 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Very interesting read.

I had already noted a connection between 'mass psychogenic illnesses' such as dancing plagues and the gender identity ideology.

[–]Criticallacitirc 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"From Paralysis to Fatigue: A History of Psychosomatic Illness in the Modern Era"

Is a great book to read on Psychosomatic Illnesses! It's a bit older & doesn't get much play anymore, because I feel Psychosomatic diagnoses have fallen by the wayside in favor of affirmation, even outside of gender ideology.

Our brains can convince us we're sick when we're not. That's why I do believe people do experience dysphoria & suffer because of it, but there's no physiological reason for it.

[–]Happy_Blueberry3910 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In turn, the eerie similarity between the youth's discourse and trans-positive online content was repeatedly emphasized. Youth were described as “sounding scripted," “reading from a script,” “wooden,” “like a form letter,” “verbatim,” “word for word," or “practically copy and paste."

It looks that trans ideology brainwashed young females 😓

[–]INeedSomeTimeAsexual Ally 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

That's a good read. To be fair it's good to wonder what triggers the distress among girls/women to the point they'll be prone to adopt trans identity... my theory is it's simply because of social media. Social media is where they find the whole trans thing to begin with but social media is a place where they see how women/girls are seen by men. They see the thounsands of beautiful, and surely edited, selfies of Instagram female models. They see how very feminine pretty women will get popular on Instagram just for their looks. Isn't it that offending to some other women/girls, who either aren't this pretty or just don't want their self-worth based on it? That's kinda similar to people bringing up the magazine models, who also distorted girls view on themselves... but in the past they weren't exposed to it as much as now. But even then another social contagion was Eating Disorders - a similar distress signal among girls.

The notion that these teens sound like they were reading from a script is very true. For our excercises in a psychiatric clinic we could listen to some patients stories. One of the recorded patients, who agreed to share her story, was a 12 year old girl. She was all fine. She simulated depression, being pansexual (when asked how she understood this sexuality she understood in a non-sexual way) and then said she's transgender. All of that she said sounded very script like to me. I detected it right away and I could even tell where she read all of that. I found it concerning and it was troubling even more when it was said that these kind of minor patients were common currently.

[–][deleted] 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Puberty is just a really rough time for girls. There's a lot of stress, hormones going wild, really uncomfortable body changes, men starting to view them as sexual objects. etc. It's pretty much the perfect time to try to influence girls to do something if it promises them relief from all that stress.

Trans is just the latest way for them to try to deal with that stress. It's not the first and it won't be the last, but it's one of the most dangerous.

[–]BEB 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

And now girls are under such sexual pressure: teen girls are considered prudes if they won't hook up or sext, or do sex acts that don't bring pleasure to many women, like anal. And then there's the whole BDSM, which is often just an excuse to beat and choke women.

There's also so much pressure to have plastic surgery. It's a horrible time for girls.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

And then there's the whole BDSM, which is often just an excuse to beat and choke women.

I'm glad to see other people agree. The BDSM community is filled with abusive men. I see doms on dating sites and they all give me the creeps.

[–]BEB 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

There was no such thing as BDSM in normal human interaction when I was growing up. For most of my life, in fact. Men who hit women were ostracized and, later, sent to jail.

It's horrific that domestic violence has been given a new name and is being endorsed as "fun" & "sexy", by the LEFT. The misogyny of the Left is only slightly more hidden than that of the Right.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's horrific that domestic violence has been given a new name

Okay...you and I agree about a lot and I respect your thoughts, but this is a pretty strong mischaracterization of consensual (there is no other kind) BDSM as engaged in by healthy adults.

And there are a lot of abusers who are attracted to it, as well, because they've got the wrong idea. So navigating that subculture isn't necessarily easy to do safely but responsible adults put a lot of care into making it as safe as possible. This notion is not even remotely the core of what it's about. That's just bad apples, and a lot of effort goes into keeping them out of local BDSM communities (the ones that stay healthy and strong, of course). Rather like the insane TRAs who are turning people against not just them, but non-toxic transsexual people, and by association, us. So let's not do this to another group.

(No, I don't practice, not that it would matter if I did because BDSM is not domestic violence, but I know quite a few fairly mentally-healthy people (some of the healthiest I know, actually) who do, and I know enough about it to not make such an incorrect generalization. Let's not go smearing another group because we don't know enough. BDSM is often kept quiet by its practitioners precisely because of the discrimination that gets thrown at them. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/standard-deviations/201702/50-shades-happier-the-truth-about-bdsm-participants )

There was no such thing as BDSM in normal human interaction when I was growing up.

Such practices have been around for millennia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BDSM#Origins

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, the option to just opt out of womanhood entirely seems really appealing when straight women are expected to get the shit beaten out of them during sex.

[–]JulienMayfair 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I particularly noted the term "maladaptive coping mechanism" since I get the sense that that's what's going on in many of these cases.

It also fits into what's known as the "narcissistic triangle" where, on the one hand, you have someone in distress because they are constantly trying to shore up a fragile self-image. Then, you have the "rescuers" they recruit to save them from the conflicts they find themselves in, conflicts they frequently start, despite their claims to being the innocent victim. That's where you get all the 'handmaidens' to borrow a term from GenderCritical and the white knights on all the LGBT forums, coming to the defense and repeating the TWAW/TMAM mantras.

Then the rest of us play the part of the third point in the triangle. We are the evil oppressors because we won't play the game.

You might argue that we now have a narcissistic triangle on a mass social scale, something I read described as "collective narcissism" where this is being played out among social groups instead of on an interpersonal scale.

Being older, I can definitely see this from the outside as a novel script, but if you're on the inside, you can't see it. It just seems like reality to you.

[–]theytookourjerbsXX only. 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah basically if you're "cis" (I hate that term) you're evil to transsexuals. I'm surprised this was allowed to be published, but I semi-drunk the TRA koolaid then, since I was an 18 year old girl at the time this was published.

[–]justagaydude123 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wonder how long until Dr. Veissière is branded a transphobe and fired from his job.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)