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[–]magnora7 32 insightful - 1 fun32 insightful - 0 fun33 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Because they let the extremism flourish just like voat did, and now extremists hijacked the site culture. This is something saidit has avoided, because our mission goal was to avoid becoming reddit and voat. That is, to avoid the extremes of censorship like reddit, and also avoid letting extremists hijack the culture like voat. We've hit that middle ground and it's created a more stable site culture than ruqqus imo

[–]NeedMoreCoffee~=[,,_,,]=^_^= 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

you did a great job with it

[–]magnora7 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you!

[–]NeedMoreCoffee~=[,,_,,]=^_^= 20 insightful - 4 fun20 insightful - 3 fun21 insightful - 4 fun -  (20 children)

It's not just homophobic its also very misogynistic and for some reason they keep talking about jews...

[–]lavender_menace 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (19 children)

It’s the most favorite scapegoat known to mankind. Works like a charm for centuries 🙄

[–]exponent2 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (18 children)

You're not very sophisticated, are you. Jews occupy a space within western civilization that causes great resentment and disgust, and sometimes it's justified, just as it is for gays and women and every other minority. Gays cant afford to make the same mistakes as jews or women because we're too small a minority. How can you not understand their resentment towards jews and other racial minorities? And i saw this as a racial minority (yes, a real one..not 1/10000 cherokee). Gays and Lesbians complain about transexuals and how they appropriate our community when they were never a part of it, women complain about erasure of their female identity by the transexuals ruining their heritage, their community, asking to invade spaces that werent built by them and to be part of a group you care nothing for and have no intention to contributing to (sound familiar)? This is about heritage. About belonging. About community. The most sacred and holy thing for a human being to do is to right the wrongs of their life so that others like him/her dont have to suffer as they did, and that love creates a dream for someone you will never know to live in so that they may never know what you went through. It's like being kissed on the forehead by a ghost from the past who'll never know what it feels like to escape the hell they live in created by his tormentors but has to console himself that the demons will never have you as their victims.

And then for the tormentors to come into the world gifted and bequeathed to you and colonizing it to start the cycle of torment all over again. Why do you think we feel the way we do? This is what heritage is. You think jewish people would be ok if a bunch of white nationalists suddenly converted into jews and flooded their communities and appropriated their culture, colonized their communities? Why do you think straight women and lesbians are so mad? You're exactly like these people. It's just that they hold nations, and we hold little communities.

[–]reluctant_commenter 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

You're not very sophisticated, are you

  • Ad hominem. Rude and unnecessary.

Gays cant afford to make the same mistakes as jews or women because we're too small a minority.

How many Jews do you think there are...? They are a pretty tiny minority as well, worldwide; in the US where I am, they are definitely as tiny a minority as LGB people, or even smaller. There are certainly not as many as there are women, that's laughable.

This is about heritage. About belonging. About community.

No, it's really not, primarily it's about SAFETY and about the truth. I want to be able to say, "I'm same sex attracted and I'm not attracted to transwomen because they're male" without having to fear being fired at work. I want to be able to hop on a dating app and not have to fear predatory men in wigs stalking me. I want to be able to speak openly about biological reality without being accused of so-called "transphobia". THAT'S what this is about, for me and for many others. Heritage is interesting but ultimately it takes a backseat to the more immediate safety concerns.

[–]ThrowMeAway2879 13 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 4 fun -  (9 children)

I have rarely read this much rubbish condensed into just two paragraphs. Congratulations?

[–]exponent2 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

notice how you cant refute anything? I dont agree with them but we're supposed to understand them to prepare ourselves for whatever they throw at us. We dont belong in their communities and they dont belong in ours.

[–]reluctant_commenter 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I refuted a bunch of your comments on the thread yesterday and instead of responding to my critiques, you ignored them all and resorted to ad hominems. Hypocritical much, lol.

[–]exponent2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

yes...thats why you ran away and you think people are too lazy to go through the entire conversation and see how you were thoroughly humiliated..and you're right. theyre lazy but no one will take your word

[–]NeedMoreCoffee~=[,,_,,]=^_^= 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

You think you humiliate other people but really everyone else looks at your comments and laughs at you.

All you do is insult people and make complete nonsensical "arguments". You can't make an actual argument without sounding like you're looney tunes.

Just wanted you to know this.

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly my thoughts lmao.

[–]exponent2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think you understand the gist of my argument and you understand the nature of my disgust for what im seeing from lesbians on here. The more you argue with them, the more they reveal horrific perversions that they infused into their politics and i find it disgusting, repulsive and degenerate. They choose to align themselves with straight women over their own fellow homosexuals. At first i thought it was because they confused the origins of their oppression to being women without understanding most of what ruins their lives is homophobia....but the more you keep pushing and pushing and pushing the older lesbians on here, the more you end up seeing them as sexually traumatized perverts who sexualize and fetishize heterosexual female supremacy in the creepiest ways in some sort of fantasy matriarchy utopia female paradise which will never happen. And they dont seem to understand that straight women laugh at them and see them as a joke. If there's to be any interaction between straight women and the homosexual community, it would exclusively be between straight women and gay men and gay men dont even want that. So that makes you look extremely pathetic.

And go through my comment section. Just look through it and see the types of comments i get and what it reveals about the older lesbians who make them. Look at the comment in my profile from a lesbian who said: Lesbians know how to give better orgasms. we're highly valuable to straight women and we can help them raise their children". I mean lol, seriously..was she masturbating as she was typing this to me? And i thought gay men had problems with their sexuality. Seriously, this is like the equivalent of me saying: "gay men give the best blowjobs. It's undeniable. In the patriarchy, we can serve our masters: the straight men. We choke on their big MIGHTY patriarchal dicks and they'll LIKE IT and protect us as they shove their feet in our mouths...and we made good gay uncles...under the patriarchy". <-- seriously, do you not see the problem here? What gay people have to put up with from your side?

[–]reluctant_commenter 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ran away where? You're the one who never replied. I see no comment reply. Unless your comment got removed.

[–]ThrowMeAway2879 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I don't need to refute the ravings of lunatics.

[–]lavender_menace 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Who is we and who are you? You’re writing a wall of text, but do not clarify of whom you speak and from which position you argue. The only thing I could vaguely comprehend from this rant is that you’re angry and are blaming me for something.

Before I can even begin understanding your points you need to clearly define who is who and what is what (including how you personally define unspecified words like: community, culture, heritage etc. because those words tend to have different meanings for different people).

[–]JulienMayfair 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Some of the more fragile on the gaybros subs are clutching their pearls about the AGB controversies represent an invasion by the "far-right." If they would listen, I would tell them, "No, sweeties, we aren't the far-right. We're just unapologetically homosexual."

Just as there is the loony left, there is the loony right. and they tend to congregate.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

This is why I gave up on Voat. The other extreme is still toxic.

Homosexuality is not all that well understood. We are a small minority of the population, roughly 3% at the most. And you won’t know if someone is gay unless this person outright says so, or possess stereotypical characteristics such as a lisp or a limp wrist. Doesn’t help that a lot of gay people in the media perpetuate these stereotypes. Also doesn’t help that religious texts are often interpreted as condemning homosexuality. In the context of Christianity, the commandant that forbids adultery has been interpreted by a lot of Christians to forbidding all premarital sexual activity. Then you have the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. There are Christians who don’t care if you’re gay and don’t see it as a sin, as long as you’re not being promiscuous or irresponsible, but a lot of homophobic Christians will use their religion to justify their homophobia. Islam and Judaism also condemn homosexuality.

And have you noticed how excessively this LGBT stuff has been promoted lately? Rainbows everywhere? Pride months (one day is enough)? Drag queen story hour? I’m all for promoting acceptance, but in countries like America, Canada and Britain, homosexuality is being treated as a good thing and in actual fact it is a neutral thing. It doesn’t hurt anyone but it doesn’t lead to reproduction either. And all this promotion is doing is making wider society resent us. Yes, we should be accepted by society and allowed to live our lives. But we don’t reproduce, like straight people do. No condemnation or promotion, just let us homosexuals have our communities. Treat homosexuality like being left-handed. But soulless corporations insist on all this pride stuff because they want to virtue signal.

Of course, there is no excuse to be calling for the extermination of homosexuals and bisexuals. But sites like Voat and Ruqqus attract the alt right. And the problem with the alt right is that it attracts s-p-e-r-g-s. I have to use hyphens, because I’m not sure if I can use this word without my comment getting deleted. But that’s the best word to describe these people. Any slight imperfection will set these people off. They see sex solely as a means for procreation - if it’s done for pleasure, they will see it as a vice. Homosexual sex is only done for pleasure. If you have a vice, you are irredeemable in their eyes, because they see everything in black and white. But what these people don’t understand is that everybody has a vice. I love chocolate - I know it’s not good for me, but I can’t live without it. But I do limit myself to 100g of chocolate per day except for special occasions so that I can consume chocolate in moderation. Alcohol is another vice and can ruin your life, but if you limit yourself to three pints of beer on a night out with your mates and also drink water, you’re not doing any harm. Likewise, sex is fine if you only do it with your partner/spouse, or if you don’t allow sex to dominate your life. But these alt-right types cannot seem understand that, even though a lot of these same purity spiralling absolutists watch a lot of porn. Some of these people also used to be degenerates themselves, and now they want to overcompensate for their past degeneracy. But they take it to such an extreme degree, that they end up hurting people again, like how they used to hurt people when they were degenerates. But for most of these s-p-e-r-g-s, it’s just a matter of everything being black and white and not being able to handle the complications that come with life. But let them have their spaces to s-p-e-r-g themselves out in. It’s a catharsis for them. As long as they let us have our own spaces.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 11 insightful - 5 fun11 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

In islam, they turned out a story about rapists into"it's not fine for men to fuck men" lol But islamic lesbians should use the passage that say"it's not fine to go to a man with lust like you do with a woman" to justify themselves. It's Allah will LMAO

[–]MarkJeffersonRaga Shave 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

But these alt-right types cannot seem understand that, even though a lot of these same purity spiralling absolutists watch a lot of porn. Some of these people also used to be degenerates themselves, and now they want to overcompensate for their past degeneracy. But they take it to such an extreme degree, that they end up hurting people again, like how they used to hurt people when they were degenerates. But for most of these s-p-e-r-g-s, it’s just a matter of everything being black and white and not being able to handle the complications that come with life.

It's like those people who eat so much they become a house. When you tell them they could stand to eat less, they say they don't wanna become anorexic. There is a middle ground. It's like I'm talking to a little kid sometimes who can just conceptualize their behavior as an on and off switch. And they project that lack of self-control on to other, normal people. Look, you screwed up your own life with hedonism but I'm not responsible for that, so don't take it out on my freedoms. Since I am capable of moderating my behaviors without hurting myself or others. It's curious how the worse addicts and degenerates so frequently become the most moralistic Carrie Nation's.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There are some former hedonists who accept that it was their own lack of self control that got them in trouble, and who don’t impose their new morality on others. But if someone who was a degenerate begins harassing people who are not pure enough for him or her, then that person still has not solved their problems.

[–]milknciggiesLGBToxic 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well said

[–]theytookourjerbsXX only. 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

leakedreality.com is like that too. Muh free speech and stuff, and also justifying boomers and gen xer's in their 50's screwing teenagers, and lumping LGB with TQ+ and thinking jews and hispanics aren't white.

[–]SailorMoon2020 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Hispanic is an ethnicity so one can be Hispanic and be an originee, or black. In fact in many South American countries, many residents who are of originee or African descent are often discriminated against. In Mexico, they didn't actually start counting their black population until 2015.

[–]theytookourjerbsXX only. 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Exactly. Hispanic and Latino are ethnicities, and Jewish is an ethnoreligion.

[–]SailorMoon2020 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes. Correct.

[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I mean, same could be asked of "Why is Saidit full of extreme leftists who want to kill all men?" or "Why does Saidit host pedophiles?" Unlike Reddit they allow much more freedom. While good... more freedom also allows extremists to nest there.

[–]justagaydude123 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This was intentional on reddit's part. They slowly banned the worst of the worst subs so that any alternative would first be filled with the worst people. This allowed them to ban everything else while insuring against a digg scenario.