ColonizationYou can never be sufficiently inclusive

submitted by JulienMayfair from self.LGBDropTheT

Someone posted on a formerly gay male group about a monthly event for "queer men," explicitly welcoming both cis and trans men. It generated this response:

"If you’d ever consider letting this lady faggot join you all please let a girl know. I can keep up."

"Lady faggot"? Seriously? Whenever I think things have gotten as weird as they can get, I read something new.

This is what championing mindless inclusion of everyone gets you.

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[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Which is why I don't. Radical inclusion is utterly dependent on prudent discernment (which is to say it's a pipe dream). It is not something that can be taken literally and implemented with no filters. Sexual (and other) predators will always exploit it.

I'm not sure who thought up the idea but I'm pretty sure it wasn't a woman.

[–]censorshipment 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Do you know what she meant? Is that just a fag hag or...?

[–]JulienMayfair[S] 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'll grant that she was probably trying to be cute, but, to my mind, it's a pretty graceless way of trying to be cute and remind everyone that you consider yourself a "queer woman" who wants to hang out with the guys, even when you're not invited. I think the gesture of using the f-slur for herself is her way of claiming that she's entitled to reclaim it.

[–]GoValidateYourselfuseful lesbian 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think "girlfag" is another one of their gender identities. It means a gay man in the body of a straight woman, but the woman has no desire to transition or "pass" as a man. So a spicy straight woman

[–]wendyokoopa1 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Honestly a Trans woman tried to weasel it's way into some netflix meetings it's wasn't welcomed in and got suspended. Why is it no one else can do that? it's not hard to say no, it's not hard to maintain that no. They just choose not to.

[–]soundsituationI myself was once a gay 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't remember the word inclusivity being used by gay rights activists. In the 90s/00s (and quite possibly before that) the buzzword and general liberal moral standard was tolerance, which seems to have all but vanished from progressive discourse in favor of the idea of inclusion. I wonder if my memory is accurate, and if so, whether TRAs are singlehandedly responsible for this shift in language and ideals.