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[–]HelloMomo 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't know much about Chris Chan, but I do know he's autistic or severally mentally ill or something, and that complicates matters.

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're correct, he was born autistic with parents who conceived him when they were past the prime years of procreation (his father was in his late 50s or early 60s while his mother was in her mid 40s). They refused to get him help when he was in school because they had backwards views on mental illness programs thinking they were akin to insane asylums and didn't understand what autism actually was. So Chris went his whole schooling life with not much help to deal with his condition and couple that with his parents who were too old to deal with him and didn't really discipline him enough when he was a child played a part in why he is the way he is.

[–]CancelPowerSuper Bi Male 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Chris Chan is the product of abuse, mental illness, and internet cruelty, it's much more complicated than just transgender, he's a mix of many things given form.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The AGP is not nearly the worst of his problems. There's an entire universe of acquired paraphilias to choose from. Though I think the big breast thing is nothing special.

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Semi-related, but I found this comment on s/GenderCritical about AGP(perhaps tack philosophers into it too with Abigail Thorn as an example). Does anyone find this to be the case? And if so, why do you think it be? Disclaimer: I'm not remotely assuming it from everyone(or even people in general) in those disciplines.

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh for sure, Chris was doomed from the start with his parents not understanding what autism was and not getting him the help he needed back during his schooling years. As for the autism thing in general, there is some truth to this that a lot of trans-identified people do tend to have autism.

[–]reluctant_commenter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

All that you described does sound like classic autogynephilia, I agree. I don't know tons about Chris Chan in particular, though.

Jessica Yaniv is another famous example of a predatory autogynephilic man. Blaire White has done several videos on him, if you've seen those.

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'll be fair in also highlighting that Chris Chan also has autism and was raised by terrible parents who had backwards views on special ed thining they were insane asylums and prevented Chris from getting the proper help to deal with his condition so that made things worse for him but still... All the sexual stuff is point on AGP. I didn't even include the lactating fetish and obsession with wanting a vagina to the point where he cut his taint open and pierced it.

I'm very aware of Yaniv much before Blaire did his videos o him, Gallus Mag and Meghan Murphy were the first to talk about him way before Blaire did.

[–]reluctant_commenter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I didn't even include the lactating fetish and obsession with wanting a vagina to the point where he cut his taint open and pierced it.

Oh my god.

You know... I already have enough of my brain space allotted to Yaniv. I think I'll pass on Chris.

I'm very aware of Yaniv much before Blaire did his videos o him, Gallus Mag and Meghan Murphy were the first to talk about him way before Blaire did.

Never heard of those people, will take a look!

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Don't get me wrong, Yaniv is still worse because at least with Chris, he didn't go after minors and he never physically harassed women after they made it clear they wanted nothing to do with him like his ex-friend Megan. But Chris is a very interesting case of what happens when you don't help mentally disabled people get proper help along with feeding the trolls.

Never heard of those people, will take a look!

Both are writers though Meghan Murphy also has a YT channel!

[–]justagaydude123 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Despite not raping his mother I think Yaniv is worse.

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Okay that's more than fair. Yaniv was trying to target kids...