DiscussionGender Pronouns - Gender vs Sex Debate - The Roundtable

submitted by NutterButterFlutterStill waving into the void from self.LGBDropTheT

This is a 5 hour talk, and it doesn't have chapters or anything like that, so it can't really be skipped through if you want to hear everyone's points. If you don't want to deal with Twitter, I'd say its worth a download on one of their podcast platforms when its put up so then you can listen in your own time.

There were a lot of people coming in throughout, some familiar names out of the many were:

  • Dr Drew
  • GaysAgainstGroomers
  • Andy Ngo
  • Seth Dillon / The Babylon Bee
  • Buck Angel
  • Erin Reed / ErinInTheMorn
  • keffals
  • Alejandra Caraballo
  • Seb Gorka
  • Brandon Straka
  • Kellie-Jay Keen / Posie Parker

Topics include: sex and biology vs gender and identity, self-ID and social consequences, research and academia, pronouns and free/compelled speech, women's rights and spaces, children and indoctrination or social contagion, intersex people, detransitioners, sexuality and gay men/lesbians, conversion therapy, sexism and male/female roles.

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[–]NutterButterFlutterStill waving into the void[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Keffals is especially combative throughout, and keeps getting shut down by the hosts for using personal attacks instead of genuine debate.

If you want great moments to clip and make audio memes out of, 3:56:30 - 3:57:10 or 4:22:55 - 4:23:10 have some very ladylike behavior ;)

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Keffals really is like "the very best of trans" all on his little ugly misogynistic homophobic lonesome. That one is going to have a meltdown eventually. I hope all his local schools have been alerted to his presence.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm convinced they only keep the spectre of Keffalism around so other TRAs seem reasonable by comparison. Fortunately, he's boorish and yet- boring to listen to, and so I don't get distracted by him and could focus on the more soft-spoken yet still disingenuous speakers. Because, let's be honest- with that attitude, Keffals's not gonna convert anyone.