We need to strategize.

submitted by usehername from self.LGB_Discussions

As the acceptance rate of LGB people decreases, so does the likelihood of LGB people in countries where it's illegal gaining rights. Likewise, the likelihood of those of us in more accepting countries losing our rights increases. Transgender ideology and other ideologies which have risen to compete with it are flawed and don't have our interests at heart. Our organizations have been infiltrated and taken over.

My specific goal is to go back to the heart of the gay civil rights movement: the understanding that a person's "gender" (masculinity/femininity) doesn't have to match their sex; not adhering to gender expectations is okay.

I appreciate s/LGBDropTheT for bringing some awareness to the subject, but we're going to need more than a censorious meme farm to keep us afloat.

We don't have the numbers, so we need allies. We need to tailor our arguments to appeal to different groups.

Gay marriage passed because we made it a wedge issue between theists and atheists. Atheists were our allies then. Our argument was that religion shouldn't affect laws. It's an effective argument. I've seen the framing of transgender ideology as a religion, and I think that might be helpful, but it's a difficult angle because by definition, religions require a deity, which transgender ideology does not have.

What other groups do we target? What other strategies might work?

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    [–]usehername[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Why would I want an LG country? And glad to hear you passed 5th grade health. Yes Airbus, two men or two women can't make a baby. Gooooood. Feel free to continue to not contribute anything to society other than your worthless spawn. Burn.

    [–]HPFL 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    We need a Gay nation. We meet all the qualifications for it. We need a place where gay people are the dominant class. We need a place that is just for us. We need a military.

    All the justifications for Jewish nationalism can and should be used for Gay nationalism.

    [–]usehername[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    That just sounds far outside the realm of possibility.

    [–]HPFL 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    That’s what they said about Israel.

    [–]HPFL 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Atheism is just antisemitism extrapolated onto every other religion. Our leftist “allies” stabbed us in the back. Why should we continue to support the left when they have declared war on us and used the tr-nscult as a weapon against same-sex attraction?

    [–]usehername[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Atheism is just antisemitism extrapolated onto every other religion.

    What?

    Why should we continue to support the left

    We're 1% of the population. We're not supporting the left. The left is supporting us, barely and in a brain-dead way. The philosophy of liberalism gave us our rights. "Conservatives" don't want to conserve what rights we have, they want to conserve "traditional values" and bring us back to a time when we didn't have rights. Most liberals aren't intentionally using the trans issue to hurt gay people. They're just retarded and don't notice it happening, and many of them would not care even if they knew, but it's not as if conservatives care more (or at all) about gay rights. There are plenty of brain-dead liberals who are compassionate and just think trans is gay2.0 and just support it without thinking about it.