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[–]SailorMoon2020 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I believe it's something else. Ellen had a problematic history for her show since the beginning. Complaints can be found years, years ago regarding sexism and racism. She was untouchable, and most if not all the complaints were brushed under the rug. It was usually always the gay men and black people/employees who would often file these complaints, or speak openly about mistreatment. Now with BLM, the studio was rumored to have been made aware an article was going to be published by former black employees. They were warned and I think the studio wanted to get ahead of the curve by saying, "we're looking into it" before it got too out of hand.

[–]Ricky_Ticky[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Oh interesting, I did not know that. But why gay men?

[–]SailorMoon2020 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Gay men will often call out crappy behavior of those in their flock. I feel like lesbians we're either more afraid to admit when someone of our kind is doing wrong or we simply just want to bury it.

[–]whateverman 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ellen has been rumoured to be horrid to work for and to be around if you aren’t as famous and rich as she is. I’ll always be grateful for what she’s done for lesbians as a whole by coming out when she did, but I’m not surprised that she’s being investigated now.

[–]sallyseton 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Something else. Rumours for years that the show is a toxic workplace and ex-employees finally feel safe to speak out against Ellen. The clips of her scaring guests and laughing hysterically are sadistic.

[–][deleted] 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i think ellen is just an asshole in general.

[–]Gearbeta 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah I've been hearing reports that Ellen is a massive asshole for years now. So I'm not really surprised.

[–]plumedoomer 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe, she's "not nice." But, this is only a problem because she's a "TERF," now, and the only REAL lesbian in the mainstream. The woke want her eliminated and this is their method of doing it.

[–]mangosplums 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

I'm glad that companies who treat their employees like shit get taken to task, but I'm a little annoyed that people seem to be taking this as confirmation that Ellen is an asshole who berates people. According to the sources, that claim is untrue and it's the producers who are the problem. That doesn't mean that she doesn't hold responsibility for her producer's behavior though.

“People focus on rumors about how Ellen is mean and everything like that, but that's not the problem. The issue is these three executive producers running the show who are in charge of all these people [and] who make the culture and are putting out this feeling of bullying and being mean,” another former employee claimed. “They feel that everybody who works at The Ellen Show is lucky to work there — ‘So if you have a problem, you should leave because we’ll hire someone else because everybody wants to work here.’”

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/krystieyandoli/ellen-employees-allege-toxic-workplace-culture

[–]yayblueberries 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I'm annoyed that if a lesbian woman gets taken to task for possibly being an asshole, somehow it's "the revolution consuming its children." There ain't no revolution, I'm tired of being expected to accept being lumped into groups, I'm tired of being expected to like all other lesbians just because I'm a lesbian. Even if Ellen wasn't an asshole to her coworkers, I still thought she was an asshole myself and hated her show. Fuck her, she doesn't stand in as a rep for all lesbians.

[–]mangosplums 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not sure if this comment is directed to me, because you replied to me, but that's not what I said. I was just clarifying something from the actual article itself on what the problem is.

[–]SailorMoon2020 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I feel like lesbians we're either more afraid to admit when someone of our kind is doing wrong or we simply just want to bury it.

[–]mangosplums 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Again, I don't this sort of comment is justified towards me. I haven't seen really any reports on Ellen herself being a huge asshole behind the scenes, we all know the aspects of her and her show that are problematic or dislikable, that stuff is all public to see. But the accusations are aimed at the producers. I am just going by what the article said. I'm not "afraid to admit" anything.

[–]SailorMoon2020 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I find it interesting but not surprised that you read this article and find her in no fault yet totally don't acknowledge the late 1990s skit where she comically reduces to stereotypes when she points out a black couple in front row of her show during her HBO performance. That you'll willing to over look the sexual comments she made to the likes of Katy Perry and Taylor Swift. The racial comments made to Nicki Minaj, Usain Bolt, Beyonce, etc. Verbally abusive to Kathy Griffin. The allegations of casual racism began to show up in articles in 2014. The parading of men and having them constantly be shirtless on her show to oogle and laugh at. The young girls she questions about their sexuality and romance life, putting them on the spot like with Dance Moms, Naomi Osaka...there's even a sexual assault allegation from 2005, all searchable via Google. The sexual assault allegation, you have to dig deep but it's there.