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[–]zyxzevn 20 insightful - 4 fun20 insightful - 3 fun21 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

I am amazed how many upvotes they get for boring pictures.
This clearly shows how much the reddit voting system is manipulated.

[–]ReeferMadness 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Is it manipulation when it's the admins doing it? Doesn't that just make the vote counts fake?

[–]redditbegay 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Answer: what is the supermods, who are also 93% trans males.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This clearly shows how much the reddit voting system is manipulated.

Bots gonna bot... And invoice their customer.

[–]insta 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I am amazed how many upvotes they get for boring pictures.

It is really shocking that just pure red meat for progressives is always on the frontpage. It's always some pet minority doing something or Bernie Sanders at the rally that everyone has seen a million times over or some interracial couple.

[–]Dr_Bukkake 14 insightful - 7 fun14 insightful - 6 fun15 insightful - 7 fun -  (9 children)

They don’t even realize that they are using homophobia as a weapon. By trying to piss off the proud boys by hijacking the name with gay pictures they are admitting that being gay is inferior.

[–]ReeferMadness 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

You would think that calling the proud boys gay as an insult would violate community guidelines or some crap.

[–]Dr_Bukkake 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You would think indeed.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Reddit did ban using the term 'faggots' for a while. It was wildly unpopular as redditors have an existential need to point out the sheer number of faggots in any given post, as is traditional internet etiquette.

[–]jet199 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Also unpopular as the trans crazies love calling others and themselves (if female) faggots and what they want they get.

[–]redditbegay 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Real redditors never stopped using it, good riddence to the subreddits who decide their subs thoughts for themselves.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's only against community guidelines when right-wingers and centrists "insult" people. Leftists can do whatever they want — China made sure of that with their $150M purchase.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Many leftists have an intense identification with the problems of groups that have an image of being weak (women), defeated (American Indians), repellent (homosexuals) or otherwise inferior. The leftists themselves feel that these groups are inferior. They would never admit to themselves that they have such feelings, but it is precisely because they do see these groups as inferior that they identify with their problems.

[–]Riva 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Of course they realize it. That's the plan

[–]insta 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They don’t even realize that they are using homophobia as a weapon.

Remember when haha funny comedian man called Trump a cockholster and Redditors thought it was peak comedy.

[–]slushpilot 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (5 children)

Haha. The funny thing is, most of the Proud Boys probably think this misguided response is hilarious.

It was a joke club to start with. Gavin McInnes picked the name "Proud Boys" because it sounded campy and vaguely homoerotic. I mean, you have to do some goofy initiation with your bros and there's donuts involved or something... It was never meant to be taken seriously. He stepped away from it and said forget it once the media started saying oh, it's a hate group or whatever.

It's just a bunch of guys who want to piss and drink and be rude to show they're still allowed to do that, without being told what is still proper to think and say. I guess it's a bit like real-life 4chan. Gavin's an old school Gen-X punk: people just don't understand that attitude of sneering at conformist thought and telling moralizing assholes to shove off.

It's just that the moralizing assholes used to be the old conservatives and the church. Now it's the woke lefties that have gone off the deep end trying to tell everyone how offended they are they "can't even".

[–]insta 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

He stepped away from it and said forget it once the media started saying oh, it's a hate group or whatever.

He stepped away to try and save his own ass. Don't believe Gavin's bullshit about "the prosecutors/lawyers said they would get lighter sentences". That's a lie. He didn't want to be the head of an organization where members were being sent to prison for being in a gang. While his boys were being sentenced he turned around and started a "FREE GAVIN" campaign.

Fuck Gavin.

[–]slushpilot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Either way, it doesn't change that it was a joke club to start with. Then some guys got in a street fight & the identifiable ones got arrested. So he stepped away after it became a headline name and people gave it a purpose beyond what he intended.

I don't really care what his personal motivation for disavowing it was (whether he was saving his own ass). He didn't set out to start a gang or a militia, but it was a convenient way for those people to find each other, just because they also happen to believe the woke left has gone crazy.

[–]insta 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I don't really care what his personal motivation for disavowing it was (whether he was saving his own ass).

You should care about the motivations of people who claim to align with you politically. Especially ones who are preventing you from advancing politically.

Him starting a group "as a joke", using them as bodyguards, then letting them rot in jail and denouncing them the second it gets a little tough is bad.

[–]slushpilot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't have "my side" in this and I'm not trying to advance anything politically for one or the other... Let me just say, I really don't think armed groups in the street are a good idea, no matter what they claim to stand for.

I'm just saying I would cut the guy some slack. When Gavin realized where things were headed he basically said, "you know what guys, this isn't worth it" and walked away—and I can respect that. Even though it couldn't help those in jail, it meant the remaining people in the group would understand that associating as a group any longer would be dangerous. I don't know what you think he should have done differently?

Bodyguards don't exist to start the violence, but sadly it seems bodyguards are a necessary thing in political speech lately. (I would always blame the side attacking before the side defending, personally.) We're at the point where if someone doesn't like an opinion today they feel entitled to make them feel the "consequences" instead of making a reasoned response or just ignoring it. We've learned that women speaking in Hyde Park need bodyguards now, too. How far tolerance has progressed...

I'm also not sure what you mean by "letting them rot in jail". Gavin's not the judge who can change that. I just think he realized the whole situation was out of his hands (including public perception) so the last thing he would want to be seen as, is the leader of an organized Anti-Antifa gang. Obviously for his own skin, but also for everyone in the group. As I remember, that court sentence was mainly because the Proud Boys were recognized as an identifiable organization—so officially disavowing and asking to break it up was at least the minimum he could do.

Even now, people argue about whether or not Antifa itself are organized or "just an idea, man"—but at least they're smart enough to stay cagey about that for plausible deniability.

Paradoxically, I also wonder whether taking away the Proud Boys' leadership & official status turned out to be counterproductive: it means they're now effectively the same as the anarchist groups on the other side and there's nothing you can point to, like an official website or a sanctioned speaking event to say, see this is what they actually stand for—in order to make your case against it. We can't actually know what these disorganized groups stand for today, but the people in them haven't gone away. It's a hydra now.

We've cancelled every remaining venue for controversial speech & debate so now we shouldn't be surprised at disorganized mobs having street battles and getting each other killed. None of this is really just about Gavin or the Proud Boys or Antifa, and I couldn't care less about who's right when these are the means we're left with.

Somehow we need to discover actually listening to each other again, especially where we disagree. So back to your point about claiming to know motivations: discourse only happens when you leave an opening that assumes the other side has good intentions. Anything less is dehumanizing.

[–]insta 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

When Gavin realized where things were headed he basically said, "you know what guys, this isn't worth it" and walked away—and I can respect that.

Again this only happened once consequences finally came to him. It's not a respectable thing to let other people go down for your organization and then ditch out the moment the heat comes on you. Then turn around and start a "FREE GAVIN" campaign and grift money while your boys are locked away. You shouldn't get a pass for that.

I'm also not sure what you mean by "letting them rot in jail".

When his boys got sentenced there were numerous fundraisers for the guys who went to jail. The moment the heat got turned on Gavin he denounced the group and stepped down and immediately started his own fundraisers for him and his censorship campaign. That's a fucking shitty thing to do. Not to mention, he used the boys going to jail as an excuse to stand down to "help them" which was also just another lie.

it means they're now effectively the same as the anarchist groups on the other side and there's nothing you can point to

They're still and going to always be Nazi skinheads and KKK. That's just what retards think of them because the left-wing needs boogeymen.

discourse only happens when you leave an opening that assumes the other side has good intentions. Anything less is dehumanizing.

Discourse is useless when you have groups of people who believe fundamentally incompatible things.

[–]BYEBYE 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Reddit as a whole is intolerable, even the subreddits that ban political posts will leave them up just long enough so everyone will see it. Then delete it when it stops being popular.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

But only the political posts that fit their far-left agenda.

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Better than hundreds of pics of protest signs or posters. What's the point of just taking pictures of writing with no esthetic appeal?

[–]Questionable 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

So you are saying... It's really gay?

[–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

"intolerable"

saiditor for... 3 months.

go figure. The last reddit influx still needs to decompress and drop the leftist mindset. IF you hate it so much, WHY ARE YOU THERE?

[–]BuboTitan 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I unsubscribed because of the proud boys thing. It's become "leftist pics". It was already so annoying front page submissions would be just a picture of a protester holding a catchy sign, with no actual artistic merit whatsoever.

[–]redditbegay 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Now theyve started posting pictures of presidents, and Michele and Barack making out. Its totally not partisan tho

[–]redditbegay 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Reddit has turned their mod censorship up by 1,000 percent over the last year, anything republican (or bernie) was getting hard censored by the mods, and sometimes shadowbanned immediately after getting posted to many of the main subs.

Your post is "Why are all the TOP posts the same?" the answer is the 500 cunts who get power over most of the posts on the ENTIRE site.

When you have male pretending females running your insane asylum, any pushed opinion is an option.

[–]ANIKAHirsch 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Whoa. I just visited. That sub has become totally politicized.

The level of celebrity worship is insane.. How can you watch every mainstream talking head come out to support your flimsy cardboard candidate, and still think you're leading some kind of anti-establishment "revolution" ?

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Shouldn't they be called "Pride Boys"?