U.S. security forces hunt down journalists covering GeorgeFloyd protests. VICE reporter @MichaelAdams317 plea “I’m Press! Press! Press!” as he's thrown to the ground, beaten, and pepper-sprayed directly in the face after he's already subdued. Share this please this needs to be seen.

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[–]Tom_Bombadil 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

Those cops probably read about the Vice ISIS Hoaxing from a couple of years ago, and decided to throw them a beating...

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

So glad you brought this up. Vice is super suspect, particularly with the ISIS stuff. Always made me super uncomfortable how they could just interview these ISIS guys over Skype but I can't post about Israel on my personal Facebook without being censored. When you put this in context with the guy who got caught in Turkey working with Canadian intelligence to smuggle vulnerable, young girls into Syria for these militants, it paints a very weird picture of whats going on here. Vice is definitely part of a nefarious system and their role in anything always raises more questions than it answers.

[–]RuckFeddit 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Vice is dis-info neo-liberal garbage. Controlled opposition to make liberals look like retards.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

I don't mean to turn this into a massive VICE ad hominem thread but there's too much to say about them. Did you hear about that senior Canadian editor of theirs who was using VICE's so called "journalists" as drug mules in an international drug smuggling operation? The company is a criminal cesspool. If beating a child could stop them from becoming a journalist for VICE in the future, I think you'd be able to make a decent case for child abuse

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Vice Magazine used to be edgy and seemed to be mostly "on our side" in the late 1990s and early 2000s. Often they crossed the line of what was generally tolerable, but at least it was different. I still have all of my copies, collected in New York, Montréal, and Toronto. They're collectibles now apparently.

At some point after that they started with video, changed their politics from libertarian to liberal extremists, corporatized, and became something I don't recognize and am not familiar with. (Also during that time off my radar, my ex-wife was head of branded production at Vice from 2014 to 2016, whatever that means, and said it was a "toxic environment", according to the NY Times.) Perhaps Vice was always evil but covered it with glam, or maybe like a bad drug habit just got worse and worse over time.

[–]Zaphod42 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Are you looking to offload any of those old copies?

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Ya. I could get rid of them all - but it's a whole file folder box. Not cheap shipping. If you're serious I could take photos to prove it.

Because they're collectible and I'm dirt poor, I would hope to get a fair offer too, though we can hash that out. I'd certainly be willing to bend further for a cause or a partnership.

For example: I would be extremely excited to find someone who has a set up or something to photograph/scan magazines and/or books and then share them via torrents and/or a website or few or IPFS or whatever. Not really copyright approved, but Google did it and this could be potentially valuable to the world in a tiny way. I don't have the greatest library on Earth, but what I do have is a mixed bag of moderate to very interesting - much more than just VICE Magazine - a whole room.

I'd be willing to host a server or few, but only share content on a VPN or something so that links never points to me directly - and my server could be a VPN node that points at other servers sharing stuff. I don't know if that's a thing or if it's effective or if it's just amateurish and stupid. I'd have to look into it and learn all about it. I'd also need to find the funding or gear (ie. partnership). I'd be fine if the gear was only a loan and would be fine if it were co-admined from afar, but I would insist on 4 things: that I would own the drives, we would raid the drives, the content would not be encrypted, and that I would have total access to the drives (to monitor and make sure nothing like CP or other serious entrapment stuff were put/stored there).

[–]Zaphod42 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Um ... I probably wouldn’t have the room but could be willing to contribute to the digitization - let’s discuss via dm what sort of resources you’re thinking are required. Plus I’m trying to be less attached to physical things (suffering and all that) but I can’t really seem to give up on my digital hoarding!

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Did you get that "digital hoarding" term from me? I've certainly mentioned it enough. I'm obsessive compulsive about it. I wish I were more tech savvy and efficient about it all - and had solid, safe, and secure ways to share it all.

I feel the same way about my physical stuff now, for the most part. I have 80 books on Haida culture alone, and when I finally had the opportunity to direct on an animated TV series I passed because I was "too pure". Might have been for the best. Long story. I didn't actually expect anyone to even identify with my ideas. Before the internet we only had books and physical media.

I would love to simplify my physical clutter in a big way, but not just trash it as I kept it all for reasons. The only clutter I would want to keep in my life is for making things and being creative - a workshop/studio. Unfortunately with the world as it is, I don't expect that people out there will be wanting to "collect" what I have, even if it were free, because "good homes" may be a thing of the past or at minimum become a rarity.

When I lived in the Bay Area, I visited the Internet Archive where they had "book scanners" they build which had mounted cameras above a well illuminated glass apparatus that lowered to flatten the pages. While this would be far from common, I should think it might be a potentially valuable service and/or rent-able gear, should I ever build one of my own. It could also be a good summer job or part-time job for inexperienced young students, though certainly tedious. Beyond that I haven't really thought about it further.

If my grand story is fortunate to have success, then the ideas above are among my top priorities, below only my 2 major productions and helping SaidIt and WikiSpooks (and I have many ideas on those I have not yet shared anywhere).

[–]Zaphod42 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Didn’t get “digital hoarder” from you (I’m new here) but I suspect a lot of us from the same era (?) (pre-popularization of the internet, just pre-sharing mindset) had a lot of physical objects we collected (books, magazines, comics, CDs/DVDs, etc). Oh the money I wasted, never to be recovered! I’m now trying to minimize - but it’s a tough slog. (Partly because I feel like the “stuff” is weighing me down, partly because I no longer have the room.) All to say, I can’t stop collecting (info, images, ...) but at least the space it occupies is (mostly) virtual. Good luck on your journey - it sounds like the story has much to be written (both literally and figuratively).

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's nice to meet a kindred spirit! OMG the money I "wasted". Thousands of CDs, etc. I shared a lot. I never recommended mediocre books so I've lost soooo many of my favourite books to "lending". I only hope they passed them onward and only really miss my margin notes (that I was likely not going to reference again). The story has been complete for yeaaars, but getting it out in a compelling and clear way is the trick. Everyone knows the Titanic sunk, but it's HOW the story is told that makes it interesting. Also layering things up with extra meanings and/or serving multiple purposes with a single line is for efficiency - while seeming natural is also tricky. There lies the craft. To make it seem as effortless as Olympic gymnasts flipping through the air as if it ain't no thang. I hope to speak with you in September, if not before then.

[–]RuckFeddit 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Don't see him being beaten, when was he pepper-sprayed exactly?

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I was thinking the same thing. Could be staged. Maybe not. Need more.

Edit:

Alternate Angle:

https://twitter.com/rsdaza/status/1267200011659554824

Doesn't sound like he's suffering from pepper spray, but maybe. At least it's visible.

[–]RuckFeddit 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

YEP can see it there

[–]Canbot 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Journalists don't exist anymore. They are propagandists, everything they claim is suspect; especially this. But if it ever came to pass that mainstream "journalists" were hunted down I would fully support that.

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Journalists still exist, but they're not the ones being paid by moneyed organizations. They're the random people recording with their cell phones on the ground. That's the new journalism, the new way to document what occurs. Compare enough perspectives, we can see the truth

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_journalism

[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's really hard to feel any sympathy for Vice. They are the enemy of the people.

I love how shouting his talisman against evil didn't work. Turns out, journalists aren't any better than anyone else.

[–]Big_Brass_Balls 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Vice works with terrorists.

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I mean so does the US government so what's your point

[–]Big_Brass_Balls 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So I don't care about either when they start crying about the consequences.