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[–][deleted] 29 insightful - 5 fun29 insightful - 4 fun30 insightful - 5 fun -  (5 children)

reddit open source lives! If anyone wants to help out and actively try to find our ip address, that'd be great. just don't post the damn thing publicly if you find it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCQ-GjHfbYw

[–]idkwhatimseeking 7 insightful - 6 fun7 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 6 fun -  (4 children)

Now, you're just asking for more attacks ;)

I kid.

[–]Drewski 11 insightful - 6 fun11 insightful - 5 fun12 insightful - 6 fun -  (3 children)

Yep, it's called penetration testing. All the cool kids are doing it.

[–]idkwhatimseeking 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

I learned a new word lol

[–][deleted]  (1 child)

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    [–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    I heard his dad gave it to you.

    [–]FelonMuskRogan 25 insightful - 6 fun25 insightful - 5 fun26 insightful - 6 fun -  (23 children)

    Sorry for all the trouble we brought Magnora

    [–][deleted] 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (22 children)

    What is the ice_poseidon2 sub about?

    [–]FelonMuskRogan 18 insightful - 6 fun18 insightful - 5 fun19 insightful - 6 fun -  (20 children)

    Its basically shitposting, we watch streamers and meme the fuck out of them, but we were told in this site you have to discuss, so we discuss about them and expose them too! We might have a few bad apples but dont mind them!

    [–]Jesus 15 insightful - 7 fun15 insightful - 6 fun16 insightful - 7 fun -  (18 children)

    Well don't brigade other subs. This place isn't like reddit. You have to follow the pyramid of debate to some extent. Admins have banned a few users who just spew ad hominems like it is their job. The one thing I hated most about reddit was shills who posted fallacies 24/7 so nobody could effectively argue anything.

    Saidit is the centrist reddit/voat. It allows every viewpoint, radical or not, as long as you stick to the pyramid of debate. Commines, fascists, the Hitler Youth, Zionists, anti-Zionists, conspiracy theorists are all welcomed, as long as you don't spew reductio ad absurdums and ad hominems all day. The point is to have some semblance of good debate here, rather than the authoritarian shilling of /r/politics or its right wing version /r/the_Donald on reddit, of whoch I was banned their three times for simply asking a question about Trump and his connections with Epstein as well as S(auci) Arabia. So basically, do not post threats or personal attacks against others. Debate in good evidence. If you wish to expose streamers by all means. Exposing others is of course welcomed here and probably one reason why this place has been a target.

    Also, no sockpuppets.

    [–]Chipit 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (15 children)

    T_D is an explicitly pro Trump subreddit. Maybe take your Saudi shit to literally any other subreddit, you'll be hailed as a hero.

    [–]Jesus 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (14 children)

    It isn't pro Trump, it is about Trump. Eveyone has the right to ask questions to Trump supporters and argue their point of view without being banned by authoritarians. If Trump admin makes a deal with Saudi Arabia, people have the right to sift through the details and post their point of view on the Trump administrations involvement if it is relevant, which it most definitely is.

    Also, your last sentence is a fallacy, but that is expected from someone who posts fallacies regularly.

    "Trump supplies arms to Saudi Arabia", person wants to post this on Trump sub, or simply ask a question in regards to it, "Trump authoritarians" ban person w/ different view point, calling him a "libtard." Many Trump advocates then gang together and say that your point of view in which you're objevtive was to learn about opposite view points is null and void.

    Person, does not learn opposite viewpoint because he is snubbed from the beginning, never to express his view on these matters. What happens? Well, this bolsters biases on both sides of the political paradigm. Nobody learns a damn thing.

    But hey, at least my question which you fortunately have absolutely no idea what it was will be, as you've stated "hailed as a hero." Again, bolstering bias, learning absolutely nothing. What I see is an immensity of bias in you, so much so that you choose to spew fallacies as if they should be viewed as critical logical points of view.

    [–]WebcomicAddiction 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

    It isn't pro Trump, it is about Trump.

    And r/furry_irl isnt about retarded gay LARPers, its about anthro characters.

    Unfortunately its up to users and mods to decide, my friend.

    [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

    On saidit MODS cannot delete someone for asking questions. This isn't reddit. Admins take censorship seriously, if the dialogue isn't fallacious or spam, and is related to Trump in a Trump sub that user should NOT BE BANNED. All you're doing is promoting authoritarianism and censorship.

    [–]WebcomicAddiction 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

    Im telling you how things are right now. Im not agreeing with anything anywhere. I even wrote "unfortunately", which can me interpreted as my disagreement with how the things are. The hell is that hostility?

    Its up to users to shape a subreddit. And its up to mods to decide if they agree with how users shaped it. Thats how it is right now on reddit and reddit likes. Literally the only difference between reddit and saidit is the existence of guidelines that are supposed to regulate mod activity so they cant perform any kind of political censorship in communities that dont have said censorship as a rule.

    This isn't reddit. Admins take censorship seriously, if the dialogue isn't fallacious or spam, and is related to Trump in a Trump sub that user should NOT BE BANNED.

    I still can create a community here and make a rule "no criticism of Trump." and its still going to be a form of censorship, but a fair one and its only going to be applied to that community. Thats the difference.

    [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

    Makes sense. That explanation is rather fair. I've just experienced censorship first hand on nearly every platform because of the things I post. My posts regarding Trump were not ban worthy and yet I was banned for simply posting a mint press news article about the Trump admin and Saudi Arabia. I later asked a questiom on another Trump subreddit, and was banned their also, called a conspiracy theorist libtard.

    Luckily, here on Saidit. You are not banned from the entire website for posting information concerning conspiracies that are not state sponsored alternative theories.

    [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Good thing it's not censorship! The government isn't stopping you from speaking. Your unlikable opinions and offensive manner are causing people to show you the door. You're not welcome. Go away.

    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Yes, it is censorship. Corporate and government censorship. Every single one of my 9/11 videos on YouTube have been banned.

    Offensive manner.

    What?

    [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I don't think people are interested in other subs here.

    [–]Iceposeidonsarmthing 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Don’t undersell is, we’ve done some amazing things over the years

    [–]Alt-Universe 15 insightful - 4 fun15 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

    we mostly talking about IRL streamers. Here is the main list we pay attention to on IP2 reddit

    https://iceposeidon.live

    [–]magnora7[S] 23 insightful - 4 fun23 insightful - 3 fun24 insightful - 4 fun -  (13 children)

    Anyone else think this server seems faster than the old one?

    [–]idkwhatimseeking 21 insightful - 5 fun21 insightful - 4 fun22 insightful - 5 fun -  (8 children)

    Yes. Impressively faster actually. Maybe a blessing in disguise lol

    [–]magnora7[S] 20 insightful - 4 fun20 insightful - 3 fun21 insightful - 4 fun -  (7 children)

    Glad to hear it. Maybe it was a blessing in disguise

    [–]hennaojisan 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

    Yes, a blessing in disguise altogether.

    [–]Vigte 10 insightful - 9 fun10 insightful - 8 fun11 insightful - 9 fun -  (4 children)

    M̸̢̢͕̫̭̩̞̜̘̱̤̎̋͌͑̄̇͋͒̃͑͆̉̚͘͝a̴̛͚̹̔͌̊̿̈́̌̾̌̍̕͝͠͠y̷̠͋͂b̸͈̬͇̻̪̐̒͂͊̈́͌̎̓̾̾̕e̸̢̧̟̭̦̣͓̲̞̲̳̙̾̏̉͋̿͐̈́̂̐̆͝͠͝ͅ ̵̠̙͓̯͓͕̺͈̝͎̏̓̉̐̃̑͌̈́́̾̕̚ͅi̸̡̩̊ẗ̵̟̮̹͙͇̼͙̺̝́̒̍̄͗̌̇̉̈̐͗̕̕͘ ̸͎͙̜̪̣͎̙̓̄̓͝ẘ̸̨̘͓͓̋̽̃a̶̧̹̲̹̫̻̺͇͔͆̈́̿̍̎̎̊̃̓͑̕͝s̷͔̜͓̞̱̱̭̜͉͇͈̙͔̋͛̒̀͜ͅ ̴̡̧̢͓͍̲̭͉̈́̾a̸̱̔͗̒͌́̄ ̶̧̮̼̼̈́b̶̨̛͉͈̹̙̗̐̔̇̊͊̔͑̾͐̚͝ļ̷̠̭͚̞̳̗͎͔̮̳̝͍͚͗̒̅́́͛͘ė̴̢̩̬͖͙̯͋͆̾͋̄͘̚͝ş̸̼̝͍̬̦̦͔̖̼̭́ͅs̴̨̢̜̹̰̥̪̝̜̱̑͗̃ͅi̷͌͊͊͜ͅņ̷͕̮̲̼͇̱̫̜̤̥̞̬̿͊́̀͑͑̋́̿͒͋͜͠͝͠ĝ̴̥̝̿̈͌́̾̊͋̾̄̋͌͗̆̚ ̵̧̢̘̹͈̣̙̜̫̝̗̣̳͈̆̓́̀̆̾͆̏̈́̍̽̚i̵̛͓̿̏͑̿̏̈ṋ̸̭͎̭̖̗̠͕͍̤̳̜̪̀̋͋̀͒̒̾͑͛͋̀͜ ̸̥̪̲͓̥͕̲̘̩̝͈͌͝d̵̝̩̠͖̱̯̥͎̬̦̱͕̐̓̈́̑̾͂̚̕͜͜͝͝ͅî̵̢͖͛s̴̢̛̠̠͇̜̖͎̃̑͂̍͘͜͜͠g̵͓͓̗͊̈́̌̎̒̍́̿͑̈́̋̊͠u̴̢̦͉͍̣̝͉͛͛̈́̋̀͑̍̊́̿̽͒̒i̴̇̊͊̈͑̊̈́̚ͅs̵̛̤̬̖̓̀̅̑͋̍̎͗̐̾͗̉͂e̸̢̠̗͍̮͕͉͇͕͔͌̅̒̄̓̿͐̐̿̾̔͘͜͠.̸̗̤̦̘͉͇̈́̄̐͝

    [–]hennaojisan 5 insightful - 7 fun5 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

    I can read this but cannot get a CAPTCHA right. Good one

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

    ZALGO LIVES

    [–]DomitiusOfMassilia 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

    Yeah, but what the hell is he saying, I can't read that shit!

    [–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Nice!

    [–]idkwhatimseeking 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

    Praise be and hallelujah!

    Now, I'm starting to sound like a religious zealot lol. (I am not religious by any means)

    [–]papiersackratte 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

    Yeah, seems faster.

    [–]send_nasty_stuff 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

    Yes. But it might also be fewer users.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    There's been a giant surge in users though.

    [–]send_nasty_stuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Obviously not if the site was just down.

    [–]Entropick 18 insightful - 8 fun18 insightful - 7 fun19 insightful - 8 fun -  (3 children)

    im starting to think the internet is just fucked with retardation.

    [–]g0d 15 insightful - 9 fun15 insightful - 8 fun16 insightful - 9 fun -  (1 child)

    Your first day?

    [–]Entropick 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

    lol right

    [–]Divine_Lotus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    What you said reminds me of this https://youbroketheinternet.org/

    [–][deleted] 19 insightful - 3 fun19 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    Good job guys

    [–]magnora7[S] 14 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    Thanks

    [–][deleted] 16 insightful - 7 fun16 insightful - 6 fun17 insightful - 7 fun -  (8 children)

    Mod of https://saidit.net/s/Incels here. On behalf of all of us, thank you so so much for being a safe haven for the downtrodden and a bastion of free speech!

    Truly a sad world where people destroy our (internet) home, then chase us to where we take refuge and try to destroy that too merely because we're physically unattractive...

    [–]Jesus 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    I remember incels were blamed for several fake PsyOp hoax shootings over the years. The Toronto one was espeically hilarious and poorly orchestrated. Apparently incels and monogamy is especially dangerous to TPTB, and should be survielled and discredited with the use of taxpayer funded psyops.

    [–]WebcomicAddiction 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    because we're physically unattractive...

    Their argument is that you are a toxic echo chamber that is brainwashing young and impressionable people tho

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    We're not toxic and we constantly disagree with each other (see the height>face debate) so I suppose you're just misinformed. Young people come seek us out when searching for answers and then they stay because nothing they hear from anyone else makes sense. The Blackpill theory of human relationship dynamics does the best job of explaining the real world data we have.

    More importantly, we provide a place where the downtrodden can find brothers and a sense of community. Countless lives have been saved by incel forums because many of us don't have anyone else who cares about us in our lives. In fact, many of us only have people who aggressively hate us in our lives.

    If you don't like us, don't try to hunt us down and kill us. Just leave us alone.

    [–]WebcomicAddiction 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

    We're not toxic

    Usually communities like yours are keen on repeating the same old tale of "world outside full of evil and dangerous people that hate you". That is a trick used by sects to keep their flock under control. And "we provide a place where the downtrodden can find brothers and a sense of community. " is a part of that strategy. "Outside they will hate you and shame you, but here, inside, you are with brothers. So stay."

    Im not necessary implying that particularly your incel community does all that, or that incels are sectants, but if someone is being an "incel" cause of some temporary problems that he can easily solve and he becomes a part of your community there is a big chance that he wont try to solve his problems and instead will blame society for all his failures.

    kill us.

    Who the fuck is trying to kill you?

    we constantly disagree with each other (see the height>face debate)

    Lol

    Young people come seek us out when searching for answers and then they stay because nothing they hear from anyone else makes sense.

    Yea, normies are often too retarded to give any proper explanation.

    The Blackpill theory of human relationship dynamics does the best job of explaining the real world data we have.

    Never in the history of science statistics where intentionally misinterpreted to push an agenda.

    Edit: also in addition to my first point: repeating negative thoughts over and over again is pretty fucking toxic in my book.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Well that's a shame you have such angry preconceived notions about us. I guess you better find another website to use because the admins are cool with us and there are only gonna be more of us. Might I suggest reddit.com?

    [–]WebcomicAddiction 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    I guess you better find another website to use because the admins are cool with us and there are only gonna be more of us. Might I suggest reddit.com?

    Who the fuck said that i have some sort of personal problem with you?

    [–]Acid 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    Your reaction to a valid criticism is telling them to leave the site.

    Not toxic at all /s

    Tbh I know you guys. I read the hateful shit you wrote on reddit. "Toxic", "delusional", "pathetic" are the first words that come to my mind, when you ask me to describe that sub.

    Just to be clear, nobody hates you, cause you're ugly. People don't like you, cause you got a shitty personality and blame others for your own shortcomings.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Idk I'd consider myself pretty incel as well as pretty positive. The Blackpill is a Whitepill after all. Can you point to where I was toxic, delusional, and pathetic in this little exchange? Can't do it, huh...

    [–]shtposter9000 17 insightful - 3 fun17 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

    @magnora7, you need to understand something. We were a community of 100,000 people. There are communities trying to shut us down. Twitch, SJW's and people that tried to leech but found out people doesn't want to watch them. Even the FBI will roam this sub because we are here.

    So stay vigilant

    [–]Jammin 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    lol actually real

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Who's we? Which sub are you talking about?

    [–]shtposter9000 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    /s/Ice_Poseidon2/ We are the Purple Army. 100,000 strong at one time trying to regroup after our reddit was banned over and over. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te-s7vIIhCg This video will explain a little bit (kek)

    [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Thanks. Good luck with your sub's migration!

    [–]go1dfish 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Glad to hear it.

    What it comes down to is that thumbnail/title fetching must be moved to another machine. This attack pattern happened at Voat as well.

    They suggest title on a site they control and look for the request looking for the title.

    This is why I haven’t bothered trying to add these features to notabug and don’t treat them as core features.

    [–]magnora7[S] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Interesting info, thank you go1dfish

    [–]isaynigger999 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    So no thumbs is only temporary? That and no banner is the thing I miss most from Reddit rn.

    [–]go1dfish 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I think they plan to bring thumbnails back here yeah.

    Not sure what you mean about the banner, you mean trending subs?

    [–]isaynigger999 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    https://i.imgur.com/Rsndi2Q.png

    https://i.imgur.com/FBfqAX1.png

    The banner on Reddit is optional. You can hide it. It makes it look a lot calmer.

    [–]Nummnutzcracker 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

    My god that's mental... How did these pesky cunts got Saidit's IP address in the first place?? Glad that things are back to [partially it seems] normal.

    [–]magnora7[S] 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (11 children)

    How did these pesky cunts got Saidit's IP address in the first place?

    We're not totally sure, but it seems to be likely linked to one of the services I mentioned in the original post. Somehow they are able to use one of those services to access the server in a way that bypasses cloudflare and they can then get access to our server's real IP address, and then DDOS the server directly. Basically the next week or two for d3rr and me is going to be figuring this out so it doesn't happen again. It seems most likely to be the chat though imo, so we might have to get a separate cheap server for the chat. But it might also be media server stuff (thumbnails). We have to check everything, so like d3rr said if anyone spots a way to get our real IP address in a way that bypasses cloudflare please tell us! Then we can fix it and make saidit even stronger.

    [–]zyxzevn 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Chat is usually a big security problem.
    Did you test with ProcessHacker (very easy) or even with GlassWire?

    [–][deleted] 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    Thanks. Those look like windows tools, but something like that would surely show our server making a remote connection, exposing its ip.

    [–]Alt-Universe 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Probably the IRC server. :(

    [–]TheTruthHasNoBias 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

    Please get rid of the stupid smiley face votes

    [–]bobbobbybob 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    no downvoting is an important part of the site. you can always custom style your browser to change the image

    [–]TheTruthHasNoBias 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    I don't mind no downvoting the smiley face icon makes the site look corny.

    you can always custom style your browser to change the image

    I'd like to not have to do that. There should be a setting to adjust at least.

    [–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    site wide setting for one user, or one user installs stylish. hmm

    [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    What bothers you, the icon or the functionality?

    [–]TheTruthHasNoBias 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    The icon

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    We'll change them soon. If you have any suggestions, other than up and down arrows, send them along.

    [–]Divine_Lotus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    or have the option to disable them maybe? You can try checking to se of that's already suggested in the suggestion saidit

    [–]go1dfish 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    You set up a site, you submit a link to your site (that nobody else is visiting) to saidit and have it fetch the title for suggestion and thumbnail for display.

    You then look at your access log to determine the ip of the requestor.

    Those services must get moved off of the main machine and designed to fail in a way that won’t impact the rest of the site.

    [–][deleted] 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

    Oh, now you tell us :) Hhahaa... yeah it was probably this. We're going to setup a proxy server to make these requests.

    [–]raven9 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    You can’t route those requests through your CDN?

    [–]Divine_Lotus 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I agree. These guys need to consider any other failure points.

    [–][deleted] 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Thanks, the site is now twice as fast too

    [–]VantaFount 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    Glad to see the site back up and functional again. Thanks magnora, and d3rr. I'm sure you guys have been beating your head against walls for the past few days.

    We certainly have some interesting new neighbors in our community. I haven't yet made my mind up about them. Many seem to be pretty cordial folks, and others....are not. But we're going to have to learn more about one another and come to some agreements because it seems we're all going to be sharing this space for a while.

    [–]idkwhatimseeking 10 insightful - 5 fun10 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

    Take a chance and talk with them. I did and to my surprise, they aren't half bad. I probably wouldn't be a regular in their community. But, I got to admit.. seeing all the actual free speech is definitely a welcoming sight for sore eyes.

    [–]Alt-Universe 4 insightful - 7 fun4 insightful - 6 fun5 insightful - 7 fun -  (1 child)

    I've heard they kicked IP2 off saidit :(

    [–]VantaFount 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    That doesn't seem to be the case
    https://saidit.net/s/Ice_Poseidon2/

    [–]Jonwilkon 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    FYI it is no secret who the attacker is. Here is his twitter: https://twitter.com/phineyes

    [–]portcity 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    Thanks guys. What absolute hell you've been through. Any idea why that community is attracting such vicious DDOS attacks? What hosting company was that in Switzerland (so we know to avoid them at all costs!). Jesus. Talk about fairweather friends.

    [–]magnora7[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Now that we're done dealing with them, I will say that the hosting company is called AlpineDC.ch. Avoid them.

    [–]Alt-Universe 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    Sorry for what you had to go through as I'm apart of the IP2 community. On the plus side you guys got a way better server seems way faster than before. I hope you can still facilitate a home for IP2 on your server.

    [–]Jammin 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Thanks dude, IP2 is a very controversial community. There are people out there that will stop at nothing to silence us. T7

    [–]m68k 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Glad things are back up. Shame that server company had no backbone.

    [–]magnora7[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Agreed

    [–]Tarrock 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

    Shouldn't the server company have blocked the incoming mass ips?

    [–]magnora7[S] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

    They didn't have that capability, which is why they dumped us

    [–]Jesus 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    People have had a lot of problems with cloudfare but whatever you do, DO NOT USE AWS Servers.

    [–]magnora7[S] 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

    Don't worry, we won't touch AWS with a 10-foot pole

    [–]Alt-Universe 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    YIKES!

    [–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Yeah, pretty much. Now we're with a much better host

    [–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    is it worth having a sync clone instance on a different host just in case?

    [–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    We've thought about it, but it would basically require two servers which doubles our cost. We do have a backup system that exists off the main servers, which ended up helping us just recently.

    We may add some redundancy like that some day if we get the funding for it.

    [–][deleted] 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    the person most likely responsible for the attacks is Ice poseidons developer phineas btw

    [–]idkwhatimseeking 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Congrats, you guys! Keep up the great work.

    [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    wow, yea, thats really messed up, companies dont support the customer at all anymore, lol.

    glad to see saidit is back though, no honor in the sjw clown world mudducks who attacked saidit over a single community. tho sadly, im guessing that dmca comes back into play, lol.

    [–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    We're still on the prowl for a perfect web host for us. We need someone who claims to protect against DDOS, 8gb ram, and at least 4 CPU cores. If you have any suggestions we're all ears.

    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    ah cool, wish i had a good suggestion, but idk if theres anything thats truely good, lol

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    How about Digital Ocean?

    Why don't you guys split up Saidit into different servers. Eg: one for comments, posts, links etc? Wouldn't that minimise the risk of being down again?

    [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

    Are we still in Switzerland? If not, which country's rules apply to the content on our website?

    [–]magnora7[S] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

    We are not in Switzerland anymore, we are now in the USA again, in Atlanta, Georgia

    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    Wouldn't that put us at a position convenient for the USA govt(cia, fbi, etc) to have more authority to act on?

    [–]magnora7[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Yes I would've preferred to remain in Switzerland but we made a choice to go with known servers that we could depend on for the time being. We may move back at some point if we can find a reliable service there, but we just wanted to get saidit back up as soon as possible because it had been down for over 2 days

    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Understandable. I hope we can get somewhere else soon. Thanks for everything.

    [–]magnora7[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    No problem. We are on a month-to-month plan, so it's easy for us to move again. So maybe in a month we will try out another swiss place that is a little bigger and better-established than the last one.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    Back in the USA!

    [–]Riceand420 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    I hope there are procedures and protections in place to prevent this from happening in the future.

    I dont' blame you but alot of momentum for this site has been killed. If this happens again it is over for most people. Alot of people already don't have faith currently

    [–]Chipit 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

    Begone, ye of little faith.

    [–]SierraKiloBravo 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

    I figured someone was maybe standing on a data cable blocking data getting through the pipe, because that's how the internet works right?

    But seriously, wow, that's crazy, it sounds like its been a tough few days for you guys. Bless our benevolent overlords and their rule of this domain.

    [–]Antifa 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Wow. Voat got DDoS after it gained some traction, now saidit.

    What a fucking coincidence.

    [–]Void 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Do you guys have a twitter or something in case this happens again so we can stay updated?

    [–]magnora7[S] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    The best place to stay updated in case of a saidit outage is on reddit:

    www.reddit.com/r/magnora7

    and

    www.reddit.com/r/saiditnet

    and sometimes

    www.reddit.com/r/redditalternatives

    We had threads going on over there during this recent outage.

    [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    Thanks mate. Any chance of a Saidit mobile app?

    [–]magnora7[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

    We have an android app, links are in the footer. Our iOS app is at least a month out probably, but it's in the works.

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    Thanks, looking forward to the Ios App! Just a simple request but could you add a small dark/light mode switcher at the top right of the Saidit website instead of the ugly black/white box? My eyes prefer light mode for some reason.

    Example: Sun (light) icon: ethereum.org/assets/img/icon-sun.f0087fa4.svg

    Moon (Dark) icon: http://ethereum.org/assets/img/icon-moon.0d522939.svg

    [–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    Well we already have that feature, lucky for you! :) That's what the black/white diagonal box is in the top right, click it and it'll also remember your preference if you're logged in.

    We'll try and add that to the iOS app if possible, but it will most likely inherit the color scheme of the "Beam" app we're porting it from, although we might modify that if there's interest.

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Aw thanks:) Mabye you replace it with a sun icon like http://ethereum.org/assets/img/icon-sun.f0087fa4.svg idk?

    [–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Yeah that might be a better icon, I'll consider changing it, thanks for the idea!

    [–]FormosaOolong 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Geebus. WHat is wrong with people. Blowing up the whole city because they don't like a room in the house.

    Thank you u/d3rr and u/magnora7 for what must have been an epic task.

    [–]magnora7[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Thank you for your consideration! It was a bit of a scramble for a few days there.

    [–]solder0 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Damn! Think it's the same group that did 8chan? I wonder if it was an organized group, or just some 'hive' like chapotraphouse with something like a LOIC.

    [–]Divine_Lotus 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

    Possible Solution?: Somehow set up a decentralized system for Saidit with Blockchain technology for more security. Maybe something with IPFS or Blockstack. More encryption?

    Is it possible to have a better alternative to Cloudflare tech? I saw some articles mentioning that they tend to censor sites with their tech, unless i'm wrong'

    Examples:

    Prismo

    https://gitlab.com/prismosuite/prismo

    Discussion https://www.reddit.com/r/plexodus/comments/bl8df1/prismo_an_open_source_decentralized_alternative/

    GetAether

    https://getaether.net/

    Ieddit https://ieddit.com/about/

    Other ideas for secure decentralized alternatives to Sadit / Reddit:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Rad_Decentralization/comments/3bztyh/decentralized_alternatives_for_reddit/

    https://reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/9zwwks/decentralized_discussion_forum_reddit/

    Other services or systems for ideas

    Zero.net Dpage Beaker browser XOR Freenet I2p

    For other apps, go to Dapp store

    Lets not forget about considering the Quantum computers (IBM or Google in the future regarding our cryptography being cracked in the future. This also is being discussed for bitcoin as well. Search via Startpage for info

    [–]Drewski 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    I agree that decentralization is the future. Here are a few other projects I've been following:

    lemmy - Another federated reddit clone

    Memo.cash - Social network using the Bitcoin Cash network

    AKASHA - Upcoming social network based on Ethereum.

    nntpchan - nntp based decentralized imageboard

    [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Yeah we hope to decentralize somehow someday. It's a mountain of work.

    [–]Divine_Lotus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    It's probably not that bad if using something that's already premade

    [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Yeah if another platform was decentralized and ready for primetime, we'd consider jumping to its codebase. I'm trying to watch Prismo for sure, as well as Notabug and Lemmy.

    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    Being decentralized is extremely slow usaully but hopefully the tech improves

    [–]Divine_Lotus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    What experience made you believe that decentralization is slow?

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Ipfs, Ethereum, aether stuff like that.

    [–]Drewski 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Glad to be back, thanks for all the hard work getting things back on track. I know you've got a lot on your plate now, but I'd still like to help out when you start accepting Monero contributions.

    [–]0my 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    I was freaking out when the site wouldn't load. I feared the worse and am glad saidit is back. Thanks!!!

    [–]Geralt_of_rivia 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Need for Reddit to go down so everyone migrates over here.

    [–]Riceand420 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    can someone explain to me how i can upload a picture said from imgur and make it previewable.

    Via the submit a new link a get no previews

    and via the sumbit text post i get a preview but only of the text and the imgur link i want the imgur link to be previewable

    [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    These features are disabled for security for the next few days or week. The best you can do now is to make a text post with an image link in it.

    [–]realister 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    we love you thank you for everything

    [–]Iceposeidonsarmthing 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    And thanks for letting IP2 stay gg

    [–]Anticapitalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    /u/magnora7 and /u/d3rr

    My frontpage is not showing anything new. It's the same old stuff mostly from 1-2 days ago.

    Screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/YWPLTXL.png

    But https://saidit.net/new/ shows tons of content being submitted.

    I feel that something is not working right?

    [–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It's just because the front page stuff is so hot compared to the rest. It'll sort through. The average things is on the front page a day and a half, that's normal

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Thanks man I'll look into this. It's possible that no non-iceposeidon content is getting enough upvotes to hit /s/all/hot

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    I have a couple of posts from today lower down on the page, do you also? Ice Posidon has chosen to hide from /s/all so that's why those posts aren't appearing.

    [–]Anticapitalist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    I have a couple of posts from today lower down on the page, do you also?

    Yes if I scrolled down enough I did.

    And my current frontpage is starting to look better.

    But IMO stuff from 2 days ago shouldn't be on the front page- it discourages people from checking Saidit because they keep seeing the same stuff.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    This situation tends to arise when some posts get 6x the votes of others, like the SaidIt "we're back" post. We can alter the timing of the hot algorithm at some point, but what we have now isn't typical.

    [–]Anticapitalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    but what we have now isn't typical.

    👍

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Good job. It's much faster now!

    [–]RookOnzo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    White hats fighting the good fight!