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[–]FediNetizen 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

...and the recent lock down proves it. Human activity world wide ground to a halt, but the CO2 levels as measured in hawaii continued their change as they have been for decades.

Oh jesus, you really should have at least tried to look up the numbers before coming up with this drivel.

Mauna Loa data is representative of the global average. We had some reductions in emissions in some parts of the globe, but globally most of the rest of our typical production continued as normal. This article, from actual scientists, estimates a 17% reduction compared to last years levels. A temporary dip of 17% isn't going to reverse the trend of rising levels of CO2, just slow it down a bit. That you think we should have seen some drastic change in recorded levels at Mauna Loa shows how far your understanding of the actual science and actual numbers is from reality.

We could get deep into the 'science' - I'm fully equipped to go there

No, no you are definitely not equipped to go there.

[–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

so you quote an 'estimate', yet reject the data. Okay then.

Show me the data. not the models - the models are fucked. Data.

a 17% drop in emissions is not a 'small' drop, and absolutely should be visible in the 'global average' (actually, not an average at all, but a direct measurement of the air in hawaii, but whatever). It isn't. That's because human contributions to CO2 are miniscule, so significant changes in them MAKE NO DIFFERENCE.

But way to go failing to address anything else I said.

The absolute measure of CO2 proposed warming effect is the rate of cooling after sunset. Which is... Increasing. The opposite of the proposed effect, and utterly in line with expected effects if you are not a delusional 'climate' joke scientist.