/u/Chipit is spreading misinformation

submitted by LarrySwinger2 from self.SaidIt

Take a look at this thread. Chipit declares The Big Lebowski to be cancelled for transphobia, but he simply links to the quote on IMDB, and there's nothing that backs up his claim. People read the title, get outraged and upvote, and thus misinformation is being spread. I called him out on this, and he failed to explain why he made that post.

Chipit does things like this constantly, and IIRC, it goes back to a long time ago. He also submits legitimate links. From what I understand, shills do that to appear trustworthy. I think he's clearly an adversary. How do you guys feel about him? Should something be done about him?

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[–]Tom_Bombadil 31 insightful - 3 fun31 insightful - 2 fun32 insightful - 3 fun -  (65 children)

Chipshit is a confirmed shill. He's here to create division, and would probably like to destroy Saidit (IMO).

If you appreciate this site, then you may want to think twice about upvoting any of Chipshit's posts.

Chipshit had a previous account called Snow, which pretended to be a Chinese incel transgender.

We're also supposed to assume Snow couldn't figure out how to use spell check, or grammar checking software, as he pretended to have terrible spelling and grammar. It was stupid beyond belief.

This account was a serial harasser of various subs.

Later Snow, manufactured a hoax pedo scandal, which no one ever heard about, because it didn't happen.

Snow then posted this hoax to at least two social media sites where they were ignored (for obvious reasons).

Snow then leveraged a parallel account (Chipit) to find this manufactured nonsense, and posted links to the hoax here, where it was also ignored.

Snow/chipshit also deleted the Snow account, so we can't see the history.

So, Chipit renamed the submission and posted it again. It was finally acknowledge, and easily debunked.

This hair brained hoax was every bit as absurd as the recent Lebowski post. A nothing burger.

Don't take my word for it. Search for "Snow" and you'll probably find a sub or two dedicated to this Snow/Chipshit character, because people hated him.
They are one, and the same.

I think he's clearly an adversary.

Agreed.

How do you guys feel about him?

He's trash, and he sockpuppet upvotes his divisive submissions.

Should something be done about him?

M7 is aware of Chipshit/Snow.

Most people would have banned Chipit already.

M7 deserves credit for his patience and tolerance (IMHO).

Excluding censorship of Chipshit's account, there aren't any obvious solutions.

We'd probably end up seeing posts from Chipshit1, and Chipshit2, etc.

I'll continue to call out his nonsense when I see it, and notify the newcomers about his nonsense, and history.

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    [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun -  (9 children)

    That's an issue saidit caused by raising the allowed items per feed from 1k to 10k. kind of a shitshow in this scenario.

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      [–][deleted] 8 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

      That part is not changed, but deactivating your account does not delete your comments and posts. So snow used a comment deleting script as is common on reddit, it marked all 1k of zhes stuff as deleted, but then sometime later we started showing 10k items of content, so stuff snow couldn't see or delete at the time is now showing. Sorry snow.

      [–]Node 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Dang. I've spent hours deleting posts and comments a couple times. It's interesting how every site has the "infamous past user". Dial was one of those on another site. Never saw any of the snow stuff that I remember, but I was mostly absent here for awhile.

      Also, hello from the future.

      [–]Tom_Bombadil 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (4 children)

      What up Playboy?!

      I haven't seen you commenting for some time.

      I hope you and yours are all doing well.

      [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun -  (3 children)

      thanks man. yeah we've just been trying our best to kick ass and chew bubblegum.

      [–]Tom_Bombadil 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

      yeah we've just been trying our best to kick ass and chew bubblegum.

      And you're all out of bubblegum...

      [–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

      I'm out of ass for kicks. I've also noticed the absences. It's not the same. It never is.

      [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

      ... Duke Nukem is that you?

      [–][deleted] 11 insightful - 7 fun11 insightful - 6 fun12 insightful - 7 fun -  (41 children)

      Wtf I had no idea chipit was snow. Where the fuck have I been?!

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        [–]JasonCarswell 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (26 children)

        I have yet to see proof that /u/Chipit is actually /u/Snow (or I forgot it, though I think I would have remembered that). It's /u/Tom_Bombadil who keeps saying so. Perhaps a few others once did but have long since stopped. Tom is not shy of calling people shill, which is his right, but generally I prefer to simply say they're behaving like shills, leaving room for their brainwashed stupidity. Though there are still a few on SaidIt that I wouldn't hesitate saying they were indistinguishable from shills for their persistent obtuse disinfo and lame excuses to perpetuate it, even after being proven wrong - many times - including Chipit. cc /u/Enza.

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          [–]Tom_Bombadil 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (15 children)

          Cc: /u/useless_aether

          Credit is due, for calling it like it is.

          Encore!

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            [–]Tom_Bombadil 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

            Good catch.

            Updated.

            [–]Jesus 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (11 children)

            Useless was banned and then given another chance with a different account; he might be hibs now. He was banned for dragging down discussions and calling for censorship on people who exposed zionism and called magnora a commie. Useless sort of pretended to be against Israel until he posted Zionist papers about how Palestinians are pampered and/or don't exist.

            He also on Poal.co said that we should detain and deport all muslims. Sounds exactly like a Likudnik to me.

            [–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

            Useless seemed bipolar on many things. "hibs"? I'd guessed/assumed 3rdFuckingAccount was him but tamer.

            [–]Jesus 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

            I have come to the conclusion to never trust people that call everyone a commie or leftist. I thought useless posted a lot of good stuff but in reality he was just another racist who thinks the US should detain and deport all muslims.

            [–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

            Agreed.

            [–]Node 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

            Should we really have people in the US who are loyal to a religion that wants us all dead or enslaved? However, moslems are not the only problem demographic. As for 'racism', it's effectively just pattern recognition, which is a valuable skill or ability to possess.

            It's interesting to read this old comment thread, linked by Larry in my post about bot/human teams on the internet. I've been noticing the variation in the quality of posts by hibikiblack lately, and even searched for the term the other day. Just can't get into much speculating about who used to be who, though. Even if it's a different account, it's still the same person with presumably the same beliefs.

            I have hundreds of posts exposing the CIA and their relationship with the Likudniks, who both conspired to assassinate JFK.

            Wow, that is a lot. Also, hibikiblack seems to be coming out as some kind of professional propaganda agent in that comment. And no reply even 6 months later.

            [–]Jesus 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

            Go on, keep playing dumb, you CIA dirtbag. You may be able to fool some, but can't actually beat me. Seriously how many times have you guys been confident about taking me down only for me to come back stronger everytime? I'll just keep beating you, everytime. So go on, keep misleading people, you monster.

            ^ ^ ^ That's hibikiblack responsing to a comment I made. He might be referring to his account useless_aether plus, "you guys" might be magnora and I.

            Read my conversation with him, here: https://saidit.net/s/conspiracy/comments/6phk/obama_and_bush_warning_not_to_challenge_the/ppyu?context=3

            Useless often called me a CIA spook and murderer that had blood on my hands for the next holocaust that would occur on Jews.

            This is why I believe hibikiblack is useless_aether. Not only does he blame everything, even the neocons on Jesuits but he blurts out the above and often attacks the CIA; specifically the CIA that stood behind JFK such as Smith who were isolationists and were against covert war or alliances with Israel. This group is no more. The other Freemasonic/P2/Likdnik aligned CIA is now in control.

            Useless often called me a CIA agent like Hibs did.

            He basically prescirbes to the conspiracies of Chamish and rabbi Antelman when it comes to Israel, ie. Sabbateans and franks and the Jesuits as the woes of the world. Both of these persons are Jewish and fond of the Likud. Both says that the Jesuits are planning the next mass genocide of Jews.

            [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

            Curious. TIL. Thanks for some actual proof, unlike Tom's accusations.

            Of what little I know, all of those tribes are bad news, even the Jesuits. But Zionists seem worse, if only because they have more of a stranglehold. Religion and tribalism are stupid.

            [–]Tom_Bombadil 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

            he posted Zionist papers about how Palestinians are pampered and/or don't exist.

            I somewhat remember when that was going down, but I didn't recall that he was banned.

            That's unfortunate.

            [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            He was banned for other reasons. But given another chance. He might be Hibs.

            [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

            Lack of evidence is just absence of proof or a solid answer, leaving room for doubt.

            Schrodinger's cat may be dead or alive or a puppy or a shill or an idiot.

            [–][deleted] 8 insightful - 7 fun8 insightful - 6 fun9 insightful - 7 fun -  (2 children)

            I prefer to simply say they're behaving like shills, leaving room for their brainwashed stupidity.

            lmfao, that was very eloquently put, and I agree with you completely on that. That's pretty much been my attitude towards most users on SaidIt too. I have to say though, I kinda miss Snow's antics; I wouldn't be disappointed if Chipit was Snow lmao!

            I'm hoping for an Adam Sandler movie one day where Adam plays a shill working in a shill-center funded by a "Jorge Joys" and Adam's goal was to invade and attack an online forum/community, but his real life sucks and he's really lonely being a shill, so he accidentally becomes really good friends or romantically involved with one of the users. Then at the end the user finds out he's a shill. I think that'd be a funny Adam Sandler movie.

            [–]JasonCarswell 5 insightful - 7 fun5 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 7 fun -  (1 child)

            At the end he finds out he's a dude. They get married anyway.

            [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

            Yes!!!

            And at the wedding, the weird guy that’s in all the Adam Sandler movies randomly appears and screams his catch phrase, “you can do it!”

            11/10 - IMDb

            94% - “A charming, modern and realistic case of Romeo and Juliet between two parties who otherwise could never be together.. with a pumpkin spice of comedy and a happy ending.” - Rotten Tomatoes

            George joys/Jorge Joys™ and “Shillings™” movie™ Concept by /u/enza, pm to buy movie rights and revive Adam Sandler’s career with another shit Adam Sandler performance™.

            [–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 6 fun -  (4 children)

            Tom is not shy of calling people shill

            JasonCarswell is a shill.

            Just kidding bro. ;-)

            JC is my homeboy.

            [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

            I also suspect you may have that face blindness thing when determining whether a celeb is actually a woman or not. But I'll let it slide, up and down my leg. That's why he/she's my Tomboy too.

            [–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

            Jason likes to imagine crazy things. His family and friends pity him.

            About ten years ago Jason had a bad breakup with a much, much, older woman.
            He fell into a deep depression.

            To make matters worse, he was prescribed some medication that really messed up his head for a long time.

            He regularly engaged in self harm, and one evening in a fit of rate he took things a bit too far.

            No one really knows what happened, and Jason has no memory of the incident.

            However, he's cursed to live out the remainder of his days as a penisless eunuch.

            He has delusional fantasies that involving the mutilated remains of his nethers.

            :-/

            [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

            Some of that is true, some exaggerated, and some false - but then again, I don't know what happened nor remember it, so maybe...

            " A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds ... To be great is to be misunderstood. "

            [–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

            Some of that is true, some exaggerated, and some false - but then again, I don't know what happened nor remember it, so maybe...

            A dignified response.

            Respect.

            [–]Chipit 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

            I'm not freaking snow. Weirdo conspiracy theorist can't tell the difference between a native English speaker and ESL. Gimme a break.

            [–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (11 children)

            I'm not freaking snow. The Weirdo. conspiracy theorist ,can't tell the difference between a native English speaker and ESL. Gimme a break

            [–]Chipit 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

            How is it you can't tell the difference between a native speaker and someone who speaks haltingly with the same errors a Chinese makes?

            [–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (9 children)

            who speaks haltingly with the same errors a Chinese makes?

            The resident expert on Chinese grammar mistakes.

            [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (8 children)

            New theory: Tom is Chipit and Snow. Taking a que from US politics he's created these personas to distract from real conflicts.

            [–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

            New theory: Tom is Chipit and Snow. Taking a que from US politics he's created these personas to distract from real conflicts.

            I like it.

            Now let's see the evidence.

            [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

            Shill.

            [–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

            Shill.

            Six sigma certainty.

            [–]wecandobetter 10 insightful - 7 fun10 insightful - 6 fun11 insightful - 7 fun -  (2 children)

            So he's basically the village idiot of saidit and we've just gotta warn the younglings not to listen to crazy ol' Chipit.

            [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            ^

            [–]JasonCarswell 8 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 5 fun -  (4 children)

            Good summary. Would be better with some citations. Still worth saving for copypasta future reference.

            /u/Snow - I thought all Snow's content and subs were self-deleted.

            Mod of:
            /s/shrinkflation
            /s/Incel
            /s/PedoHatersAnonymous
            /s/UserSnow - private "You must be invited to visit this community"

            What a snow job.

            [–][deleted] 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

            Lol, I remember his private snow sub. It was like an UwU personal Snow diary that had female anime characters on the banner and sidebar iirc and he/they got mad whenever someone posted in there, especially something they didn’t like or agree to because that was their sub.

            [–]Jesus-Christ 7 insightful - 8 fun7 insightful - 7 fun8 insightful - 8 fun -  (1 child)

            I got banned for asking why the default CSS theme was white and not black.

            [–]Airbus320 4 insightful - 8 fun4 insightful - 7 fun5 insightful - 8 fun -  (1 child)

            u/bald-janitor and u/basedaf1 was innocent!

            [–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

            typo

            [–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

            What Tom Said

            [–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            ;-)

            [–][deleted] 12 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

            The answer: read posts and open links before voting for them. It's as simple as that.

            [–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            This.

            [–]JasonCarswell 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

            I agree ChipIt is either intentionally divisive, an autistic clever idiot, or both. I'd even go so far as to agree with Tom in that he's either a shill or doing a fine job imitating one.

            My advice: Always call out the shit - from Chipit and everyone else.

            Give him the benefit of the doubt in words as I do, or go all out as Tom does and call them shills (but be prepared to have evidence of your claims).

            If you're really inspired, keep a list going of evidence. You may make an open wiki page to keep it all on (bottom half of page): https://saidit.net/wiki/

            [–]jet199 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (7 children)

            People need to remember there's a difference between trolls and shills.

            Some people just like bad attention or enjoy debate about anything and they don't have any deeper motive than that.

            Having said that if anyone's willing to offer me big money just to wind people up I'm open to negotiation.

            [–]Jesus 9 insightful - 5 fun9 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 5 fun -  (5 children)

            Called me crazy, mentally ill and insane for bringing up Zionism. He also attacks any of my posts that mention neocons and has admitted that we must fight propaganda with propaganda.

            [–]Tom_Bombadil 9 insightful - 8 fun9 insightful - 7 fun10 insightful - 8 fun -  (0 children)

            Called me crazy, mentally ill and insane for bringing up Zionism.

            You Saidit Man.

            The ultimate Big Lebowski reference.
            The circle is complete.

            [–]jet199 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

            Yeah but he has bad points too, right.

            [–]Jesus 3 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

            God bless you.

            [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

            You're crazy because your posts go on forever and you never explain yourself.

            [–]Jesus 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

            That isn't grounds for calling someone crazy. I explain myself often, you just ignore me. May God bless you brother.

            [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

            Me2!

            account 4 sale PM me!! Competitive pricing!!!

            [–]Comatoast 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

            Pretty sure he's just a shitposter willing to go through creative lengths for entertainment.

            I could be wrong, but it's just an observance.

            [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 10 fun4 insightful - 9 fun5 insightful - 10 fun -  (12 children)

            He's a frequent contributor, so the Lebowski thing was clickbaity, so what.

            Should something be done about him?

            Drown him in a sea of lucious big tittied strippers.

            [–]JasonCarswell 8 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

            It's more than that. Read my other comment. Chipit is often bad news.

            [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            I was looking through my old stuff and saw this. Yeah, I get it now.

            [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 7 fun7 insightful - 6 fun8 insightful - 7 fun -  (7 children)

            You always make me laugh. No matter how serious the conversation is, you can always count on Musky for some comic relief.

            [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

            Aww, thanks May, that's really sweet.

            [–][deleted]  (4 children)

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              [–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

              next comes the big reveal. Stay tuned for Dr Phil

              [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

              bruh

              [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

              I'll let my wife know.

              [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

              Yw

              [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

              The vast majority of what he posts is clickbaity

              [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

              Ha. He's the first user I used the block feature on. His posts seem to drip with ill faith.

              Funny how often I happen to later get justified when my spidey senses tell me somthing is wrong.

              [–]Jesus-Christ 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

              As soon as that feature were added I blocked him as soon as I could, sometimes I'd see him fill the page with his antics about using I.E.D explosives on monkeys or something, or asking a question in regards to washing his clothes in his dishwasher. What a character. Shill or not I could always bet on Snow giving me a good laugh with his retardation and his constant pinging of M7 that drove him over the edge. The nail in the coffin was when he started accusing users of being pedophiles because they made fun of his grammar. Simpler times prior to the mass migration of new users and there were about 10 or so of us that were frequent users. Kinda preferred it back then tbh. It's a bit of a dumpster fire these days.

              [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

              Double, double toil and trouble;
              Fire burn and cauldron bubble.
              Problems, reactions, and solutions,
              Collapse, conflict, with chaotic elections,
              Foisting crises higher 'n higher,
              Satanists dance 'round the dumpster fire.

              Double, double toil and trouble;
              Fire burn and cauldron bubble.
              Soup lines form for long gone hope,
              Faith in experts makes you the dope,
              Corrupt they planned social disorder,
              To demand a New Normal World Order.

              Double, double toil and trouble;
              Fire burn and cauldron bubble.
              The Great Reset is finally here,
              Stoke the hate, prod the fear,
              Grim reaper grins from ear to ear,
              Vaccine deaths will come next year.

              [–]Jesus 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (19 children)

              But he must remain here. Because I don't think he's a shill.

              [–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

              Why and why?

              [–]Jesus 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

              I don't think he is a shill, yet. I think he is biased, like me. I have not seen any evidence that he is SNOW, but I could be wrong.

              [–]Tom_Bombadil 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

              I have not seen any evidence that he is SNOW, but I could be wrong.

              He miraculously found Snows hoax posts, and publicly posted them here.
              Twice.

              Snow deleted his account, but he didn't want to leave for good. He was having fun here.

              He knew he couldn't come back after his attempted sabotage, so why wouldn't he create another account a couple of months earlier?

              Anyone else would have discreetly notified M7.
              There's no reason to make it public; particularly given Snow's reputation for harassment, etc.

              It surprising that you are a coincidence theorist on this particular topic.

              Especially, given the pedo hoax, etc.

              We have:

              • Motive
              • Means
              • No credible alibi, because Chipshit miraculously "found" the sabotage

              If he hadn't posted it, then no one would have known, and that would be unacceptable to him.

              There's a zero percent chance this was a coincidence. He found the sabotage evidence that he planted.
              It's as simple as that.

              [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

              " He miraculously found Snows hoax posts, and publicly posted them here. Twice. "

              That is very odd - but it's not proof.

              I am a digital hoarder. I've saved countless chat conversations I intended to go back over to mine for useful information. (I rarely do because life keeps moving forward, but that's besides the point.) I scrape webpages and download videos. I've backed up WikiSpooks and some of SaidIt, though I've long since abandoned the RSS thing - but might one day back it up just for decentralized security. I'm not doing this to trap or sabotage - I'm doing it for archival security and future freedoms and shit.

              " There's a zero percent chance this was a coincidence. "

              Assuming what you speak of is true, agreed. This only proves it's been duplicated.

              " He found the sabotage evidence that he planted. "

              You don't know that.

              What is your explanation for these /u/Chipit?

              " Anyone else would have discreetly notified M7. "

              About the "attempted sabotage"? What was this alleged sabotage?

              Snow was also being harassed. At one point even M7 was calling Snow a liar when it clearly wasn't the case. He does that on occasion, usually when frustrated. (Being wrong without intent is not the same as being a liar with intent.) Also, it doesn't mean Snow was not lying in other conversations.

              " It surprising that you are a coincidence theorist on this particular topic. "

              I have yet to see any connecting evidence.

              What is the motive? Everyone has the means and everyone who is anonymous, including you, has no alibi. Your TV procedural crap doesn't fly here.

              The police do enough bad shit that we don't need to make up fake stories about the police. Same for the government, secret agencies, etc.

              Same for Chipit.

              Also, perhaps M7 can look at the IP of Snow and Chipit and let us know? Would you object Chipit? If you're game you can ask M7 to verify that detail at least and bring that testimony to the table.

              [–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

              Everyone is biased.

              I've never seen the Snow connection either. It seems far fetched considering what I have seen of both of them, but of course it's not impossible.

              Why must he remain here?

              [–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

              your opinion isn't really highly regarded by many. I heard he's a zionist, btw

              [–]Jesus 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

              By many Zionists? No. But I have had many thank me for my posts.

              [–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

              I regard Jesus among the wisest contributors on SaidIt for what it's worth.

              [–][deleted]  (6 children)

              [deleted]

                [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

                Fuck religion and dogma.

                One of these days I may convert /u/Jesus to atheism if he can wake up to the harsh reality of that myth.

                [–][deleted]  (2 children)

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                  [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                  LOL

                  [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                  Atheisim is materialism. I believe in a creator of spirit.

                  [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                  No. Atheism is absence of theism, not a replacement with another ism.

                  Most atheists are moral ethical people, just free of absurd religious dogmas and shit that clouds our reason, logic, and thinking. There are already more than enough other dogmas and isms to do that.

                  " I believe in a creator of spirit. "

                  What does that even mean?

                  Spirit and soul are stupid, intentionally confusing words describing the existential problematic paradox bridging mind and body.

                  Then who created the creator? It's turtles all the way down. Is the Big Bang legit or just another Zionist "science" scam? Who really knows - but who really needs to know? I don't need to know all the answers in the Universe, and I never will, and that's just fine. I don't need myths or imaginary father figures to replace my shitty father and shitty government.

                  Worse are the hypocrites who pretend they're moral and ethical and do the opposite and try to justify it - many religious. They may even be fooling themselves, but it doesn't diminish their hypocrisy.

                  [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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                    [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                    What does that mean?

                    [–][deleted]  (9 children)

                    [removed]

                      [–]JasonCarswell 10 insightful - 11 fun10 insightful - 10 fun11 insightful - 11 fun -  (8 children)

                      You put the ass in classy.

                      [–]Minedwe 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

                      This cunt (OP) wants us to mass ban this guy because of a completely misrepresented post. Chipit shills, yes, but he also made a good point and this faggot is a concern troll talking about "but muh trannies you'll hurt their fee fees!!!"

                      [–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

                      That could be inferred though there's nothing about banning as actually the OP stated:

                      " I think he's clearly an adversary. How do you guys feel about him? Should something be done about him? "

                      It seems he's seeking advice on a social media platform about a problematic proven repeated liar often enough.

                      Defending Chipit means you don't give a shit about truth.

                      [–]Minedwe 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

                      I don't give a shit about "Truth" when the side that says they are right and cuckservative faggots that simp for Jews, trannies, and homos, all of whom want to touch their kids and destroy their society.

                      Neither leftist retards like ChipIt nor """right wingers""" like you or OP deserve any kind of defense or quarter.

                      [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

                      You have it inverted. Chipit is not left and I am not a right winger. I don't even buy the left-right paradigm as I'm not limited by tribalist bullshit when seeking the truth.

                      Since you care not for the truth nor manners, maybe /u/magnora7 will escort you to the nearest SaidIt exit.

                      [–]Minedwe 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                      You have it inverted. Chipit is not left

                      Then please, enlighten me, What is ChipIt if not a lefty?

                      I don't even buy the left-right paradigm as I'm not limited by tribalist bullshit when seeking the truth.

                      I agree to an extent, but you say "when seeking the truth" as if the truth in the post in question matters or is unclear. You and OP are both mad because you misinterpreted his words and title, and by your metrics, that constitutes outright lying and is ban worthy.

                      Since you care not for the truth nor manners, maybe /u/magnora7 will escort you to the nearest SaidIt exit.

                      You seem to be a fan of whining "WAAAAH JANNIES BAN THEM THEY DISAGREED AND SAID MEAN THING"

                      Which, by the way, reminds me: Weren't you banned, or at least bullied off of, debatealtright for your constant concern trolling or something similar?

                      [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                      Chipit didn't even understand the difference between the old-progressive-left, the corporate Democrat Left, and the Far Left extremists with BLM and SJWs. I didn't even get in to the extreme green left, now considered eco-terrorists by the establishment. I doubt he even understood the Bernie phenomenon, much less the purpose of the Green Party.

                      /s/politics/comments/4nt9/found_online_and_wanted_to_share/hbns

                      Chipit often talks like he's on the right and/or stupid, but I wouldn't be surprised if he is actually a non-partisan disinfo shill determined to stir up shit and confusion, perhaps an asset of the CIA or Mossad or some pathetic secret agency. Either that or a neckbeard in a basement.

                      In this context it doesn't matter what the truth is. It matters more that people are skeptical, critical, and actively seeking it where ever it may be. Politics, tribalism, dogmas, corruption, censorship, etc. - all get in the way of being able to seek the truth. So does misinformation.

                      " You and OP are both mad because you misinterpreted his words and title, and by your metrics, that constitutes outright lying and is ban worthy. "

                      Nonsensical twisted fallacious logic out from nowhere but your ass. I said no such thing. I dare you to prove it.

                      When you rudely drag down conversations, you invite yourself to be banned.

                      " Which, by the way, reminds me: Weren't you banned, or at least bullied off of, debatealtright for your constant concern trolling or something similar? "

                      First I'm hearing of this. Perhaps you have me confused with someone else. I think I'd recall that. I haven't been banned from many subs but I've also managed to be reinstated at all of them because I won't tolerate being censored nor banned when I comment in good faith.

                      [–]Minedwe 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                      I won't tolerate being censored nor banned when I comment in good faith.

                      Good thing that you rarely do so, then.

                      When you rudely drag down conversations, you invite yourself to be banned.

                      Refer to my above statement. Also, how is calling out OP for an already shit-tier whinepost dragging down a conversation? You can hardly drag down a conversation already approaching bedrock.

                      Nonsensical twisted fallacious logic out from nowhere but your ass. I said no such thing. I dare you to prove it.

                      His title is obviously not him saying he intends to cancel the movie; it is him saying that by leftist standards the movie would be cancelled because it used biologically correct assumptions about humans and not leftist pseudoscience.

                      In this context it doesn't matter what the truth is. It matters more that people are skeptical, critical, and actively seeking it where ever it may be. Politics, tribalism, dogmas, corruption, censorship, etc. - all get in the way of being able to seek the truth. So does misinformation.

                      Are you trolling right now? Are you seriously trying to tell me that you think he's a troll and should be banned because he's "spreading misinformation" (which you STILL have not actually come out and demonstrated). You also still haven't stated what you mean by truth. Do you mean truth as in the correct and factual answer to a specified question or event, or do you mean some different esoteric bullshit definition? Because it is increasingly sounding like the latter.

                      Chipit often talks like he's on the right and/or stupid, but I wouldn't be surprised if he is actually a non-partisan disinfo shill determined to stir up shit and confusion, perhaps an asset of the CIA or Mossad

                      None of that makes any sense.

                      1. What makes you say he's a right winger?
                      2. Why would there be a non-partisan disinfo shill? The concept of simply stirring random chaos/confusion in a minor political setting makes no sense.
                      3. Are you a schizo or something? I don't deny the CIA and Mossad have agents that spread shit on certain websites, but why would they do it like this and in these specific circumstances?

                      Chipit didn't even understand the difference between the old-progressive-left, the corporate Democrat Left, and the Far Left extremists with BLM and SJWs. I didn't even get in to the extreme green left, now considered eco-terrorists by the establishment. I doubt he even understood the Bernie phenomenon, much less the purpose of the Green Party.

                      Am i supposed to care? Is anyone? I don't think even lefties give a shit about the "lore" of American leftist parties in any significant way. To say "CHipIt isn't a leftist because he deosn't know or care about these stupid and minor events/differences!!!"

                      However, based on the linked comment, I can gather that he's a cuckservative Zio-shill... something I already knew or suspected.

                      [–]Nemesis 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

                      You're just mad his political ideology is different than yours. If he's a shill, what's he shilling? For who? Do you really think monied interests are going after transpeople, considering the amount of pro-trans fluff comes out of corporate media/HR?
                      If you're actually worried about quality, this website is full of people that don't cite and post misleading links. I made a big post about it, seemed like people are divided about it. The facts are that mods are rare here, so content just needs to be inflammatory to reach the front page and stay there. A post like the one you link is, without a doubt, a lazy shitpost, but it will stay up because 20people, like you say, auto upvote when they see tranny in the headline. The only hard-bans are coming from M7, and that only happens if there's a call for violence or the user is being extremely rude/uncivil in addition to pyramid violations. You can see in magnora7's response here , which answers your question. They don't have the resources or manpower to actually police content, one man can't do it all. It sounds like even the status quo running saidit is unsustainable, so I would doubt any serious changes would be realistic.

                      [–]LarrySwinger2[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

                      No, this is not about a difference in ideology. I hate cancel culture just as much as the average person here, and if you read my post carefully, you'll see that I wasn't defending it. But let me be clear here. His post wasn't just lazy clickbait; he's literally making up a story, claiming that TBL is being cancelled for transphobia when there's no indication of that whatsoever. Instead of linking to an article about supposed transphobia in TBL, he simply links to the quote page on IMDB. It points to malicious intent. And again, this is a repeat offense.

                      You're right, shill may be the wrong word. I suspect that the intended effect is something along these lines: someone just reads the title, assumes it to be true, talks about it with others, and then discovers that TBL isn't being cancelled at all. As a result of this, they will start doubting other things they read here as well, and no longer have the confidence to mention them out loud, so that fewer people will hear about those things. Or they just want to reduce the quality of the website so that it repels intelligent people and becomes a far-right echochamber. Voatification, if you will. And to polarize people, so as to create division. These things may sound far-fetched, but shilling is very common. For example, there are hundreds of thousands of people who shill for Israel on a voluntary basis. They download an app that notifies them of opportunities to shill. And intelligence agencies have enormous budgets, of course. Attempting to destroy Saidit and similar sites would be a tiny project for them. I'm not saying that this is what's going on – I really don't know. But I suspect it's something along these lines.

                      [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                      Well stated.

                      [–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                      I suspect that the intended effect is something along these lines: someone just reads the title, assumes it to be true, talks about it with others, and then discovers that TBL isn't being cancelled at all. As a result of this, they will start doubting other things they read here as well, and no longer have the confidence to mention them out loud, so that fewer people will hear about those things. Or they just want to reduce the quality of the website so that it repels intelligent people and becomes a far-right echochamber. Voatification, if you will. And to polarize people, so as to create division.

                      You summarized it better than I could have.

                      Voatification, if you will.

                      This cogently describes Chipshit's actions.

                      A persistent but nebulous social/intellectual assault on the community.

                      Shilling without an apparent agenda.

                      +3

                      [–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                      You're right, shill may be the wrong word.

                      Shill is the right word. Alex Jones operates similarly.

                      [–]Airbus320 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

                      https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/20j8/saidits_first_documented_drama_大下雪/

                      [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                      Good find. I'd forgotten.

                      [–]Chipit 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

                      Riling up a mob, eh? This is what you do on Reddit, isn't it? Sucks you can't ban people here like you're used to, eh?

                      [–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (8 children)

                      Post and comment responsibly and rationally with respect and this wouldn't happen.

                      [–]Chipit 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

                      Nice victim blaming.

                      [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

                      LOL. You're no victim.

                      [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

                      What's it like being part of a cancel culture SJW mob?

                      [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

                      LOL. You're an idiot. That's not an insult. Your words could only come out of someone with mental deficiencies. I'm quite positive I'm not the first person to inform you that you are retarded.

                      There's absolutely nothing about me that is either cancel culture nor SJW nor of a mob mentality.

                      You sir, are an asshole who fails to realize how much you stink.

                      [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                      Your post is one long insult in violation of Saidit policy.

                      This whole thread is a Reddit AHS member leading a cancel culture brigade. You participated.

                      [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

                      And you sir, often insult many on SaidIt with your shitty content.

                      I don't participate on Reddit, but I sure did here because you need to realize and know that you've got serious problems - otherwise this post wouldn't have stacked up so many comments. Note that mine are not all entirely critical of you.

                      You can listen to their beefs, legitimate and/or exaggerated, and change your ways or if you stick around remaining deaf to them you'll inevitably face all this crap again. Time to wise up. If you're able.

                      [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                      Nah, fuck cancel culture and everyone who participates in it. I'm not having my behavior modified by a struggle session.

                      [–]SaidOverRed 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

                      I've only blocked trolls that demand people block them (strange, but it happened atleast once) and those who follow and harrass but don't stop even after being called out on it.

                      So uh, in case I blocked chipit, has he posted in this thread? If he hasn't, then that's suspicious. If so, then I don't need to know what one of the few users I have blocked is saying.

                      [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

                      Click on u/Chipit and if it doesn't say "you've blocked this user" then you have not.

                      [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                      I didn't know that was even a feature. TIL. At least now I can know.

                      [–]SaidOverRed 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                      Thanks. Apparently I have not.

                      I'm more tolerant than I thought.

                      [–]insta 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (19 children)

                      This is why saidit needs a downvote button.

                      The exclusion of the downvote button was a mistake.

                      [–]bobbobbybob 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

                      no, it wasn't. it is essential to prevent brigading hordes of butt hurt leftists dominating the discussions

                      [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (17 children)

                      Fuck downvotes, if you disagree with something then avoid it.

                      [–]insta 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

                      I think it conflates bad content with just spam or neutral content.

                      As much as being downvoted for wrong think is annoying, not being able to downvote stupid questions or irrelevant content is a shame.

                      [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (14 children)

                      The report button exists precisely for that, content filtering but with transparency

                      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

                      it would be good to bury a thing with downvotes rather than have to rely on mods to look at things that are reported which they probably won't do or care about.

                      [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

                      And that's part of a different problem, lack of global mods

                      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

                      solution: downvotes

                      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

                      Actual Solution: Site-wide mods need to be more(i.e. to moderate s/all and to moderate the default subs)

                      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                      need less mods actually cuz power always corrupts, best to just let community decide what is bad or not

                      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                      power always corrupts

                      Not if the power is elected though

                      [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

                      Depending on "global mod" governance and "authority" is weak and makes us children.

                      We all need to be our own police our own community, regardless of and/or in addition to the mods and admins. Especially when this place is not corporate funded and free of ads.

                      We all need to contribute in what ways we can. This may mean coming up with alternative solutions.

                      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

                      Depending on "global mod" governance and "authority" is weak and makes us children.

                      Subservience to authority that works in your favour is not weak, its smartness

                      We all need to be our own police our own community, regardless of and/or in addition to the mods and admins. Especially when this place is not corporate funded and free of ads.

                      What if, instead, we make magnora a dictator(as in benevolent dictator), and make magnora chose global mods. Also, it would be even better if Saidit required global mods to write a message as to why a post got removed/user got banned, that would make the perfect hierarchy, with both strong authority and transparency regarding bans/removals

                      [–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

                      We don't need global mods, but a trusted counsel would be good. Several times I've recommended that M7 pick a trusted counsel to take on some of the burden, including collectively determining who's misbehaving poorly enough they need to go, then presenting the proof and verdict to him. This not only frees up his time and energy but it also diffuses the "dictator" aspect. His failure to do so leaves me wondering whether he's a masochist, a megalomaniac, or he feels no one on SaidIt is worthy of his trust. Unless there's already a secret SaidIt Force.

                      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

                      trusted counsel

                      3democratic5me

                      [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                      Burying it, out of sight out of mind, is not a solution either. It's censorship with potential later ramifications.

                      Relying on mods and admins is relying on "authority" when really we need self-reliance.

                      [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                      Not good enough.

                      [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                      I agree.

                      The problem is when the downvotes affect the number. The solution: 3 separate numbers for insightful, fun, and dislike.

                      Even better would be ranking 0-10 like on IMDb for more qualitative stats.

                      [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

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