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[–][deleted] 17 insightful - 11 fun17 insightful - 10 fun18 insightful - 11 fun -  (86 children)

I mean... We have racists, alt righters, and anti-semites. We gonna draw the line at a motherfucker incel?

Edit: He's a pedo and m7 banned him.

[–]magnora7 21 insightful - 4 fun21 insightful - 3 fun22 insightful - 4 fun -  (37 children)

Well he said this:

I'm a reactionary who supports patriarchy and mass murder of feminist scum.

So he was openly advocating violence. As well as sexualizing children in several posts, which is also against saidit rules. So he's out.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Well I ain't shedding any tears.

[–]AirSeddit88 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (25 children)

The problem is the contradiction between "free speech" and "saidit rules'.

If anyone can ban any comment for any reason, it's not free speech.

If we cannot trust each other to think independently, to sort out the garbage from the gold, who do we trust to think for us.

[–]magnora7 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (24 children)

Saidit rules are the rules for saidit. Have been for 3 years. Nothing has changed.

https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/j1/the_saiditnet_terms_and_content_policy/

We're not going to allow stuff on saidit that break federal laws, sorry. Not happening. That's how sites get shut down, and we value actual free speech enough to not let lunatics hijack the actual conversation by putting this site in legal jeopardy, which would shut down everyone's free speech.

[–]fschmidt 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

You are quite mentally lazy and refuse to even think about what "advocating violence" really means. As for legal consequences, "advocating violence" is legal.

[–]magnora7 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

Making specific threats of violence is actually illegal and will result in this site being taken offline.

I define it a bit more broadly to "advocating violence" (calling for the physical injury or death of another person or group of people) for the purposes of saidit.

There is no reason to start your comment with an insult. Just argue your point.

[–]EVERYBODYPANIC 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

magnor7, you brilliantly handle the ones baiting you. Class act, man. I appreciate how you do what you do and why you do it. There are more monsters in the dark places than just the trolls. We don't have to slay monsters but we must protect ourselves by banishment.

[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you, I appreciate your kind words. I agree we can build something better, so let's build it!

[–]fediverseshill 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

the ones baiting you.

Asking people doing censoring to justify it is not "TROLLING" unless youre literally a nazi reddit mod. 😂😂

[–]fschmidt 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Making specific threats of violence is actually illegal and will result in this site being taken offline.

Yes but Caamib did not make a specific threat of violence. And your Pyramid of Debate rule simply doesn't apply here because Caamib's comment was an explanation that did not drag the discussion down. So you have absolutely no legitimate reason to ban Caamib.

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Yes and as I just explained, I define it a bit more broadly to "advocating violence" (calling for the physical injury or death of another person or group of people) for the purposes of saidit.

[–]fschmidt 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Maybe you do, but simply "advocating violence" (your definition) doesn't violate your rules. Your rules prohibit "repeatedly dragging discussion in a downward direction on the Pyramid of Debate". Did Caamib do this? No.

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Your rules prohibit "repeatedly dragging discussion in a downward direction on the Pyramid of Debate"

Yes, and the bottom level of that pyramid is advocating violence! https://saidit.net/static/PyramidDebate.jpg

So by advocating violence he is dragging it to the bottom level.

[–]fediverseshill 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The armchair legal students here are funny as fuck, how shortly it took for the higher ups here to let the power go to their head.

The saying is true... you either destroy the jannies or will mod long enough to become one

[–]fediverseshill 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Which fed law did the saidditor in OP break?

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

None, I never said he did. I was speaking more generally to the concept of infinite limitless free speech, which even in theory is not possible in a sustainable way on a website because it will eventually break federal law.

He did however break the saidit rule that advocating violence against individuals or groups is not allowed. So he is banned.

[–]madcow-5 13 insightful - 5 fun13 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

I say we draw the line at requests for jb.

As I understand porn is explicitly forbidden here, which contrary to what this guy supposedly said, will keep us from turning into voat.

Also, incels really don’t have anything to contribute.

[–]Caamib 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

Another one who doesn't read anything and doesn't even know what words like porn or incels mean

[–]madcow-5 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Ok, little buddy.

[–]Tarrock 12 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 4 fun -  (24 children)

I'd say draw the line at pedos, which this guy is. I think we have r/incels come here for a while, dunno if they're still around, but they kept to themselves. This guy is a fucking sicko.

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    [–]Caamib 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

    More lies and nonsense. You really should check yourself into a hospital.

    [–]bobbobbybob 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    11 or 12 year olds, that's what you said is acceptable. so fuck off

    [–]fediverseshill 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    Nazis are allowed to talk about their beliefs. Stop moralizing because unless hes actually doing criminal stuff, he's only expressing his speech, dumptard.

    [–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    rule 2 says "fuck off you pedo apologizer"

    [–]madcow-5 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    There's no such thing as a pedo apologizer. The guy's an actual pedo.

    That's something you're either down with yourself, or have a primal instinct to kick the shit out of them.

    [–]wristaction 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    Progressives just need someone in a white lab coat to tell them that it's a Western cultural myth that children are necessarily harmed by 'intimacy' to get on board with decriminalizing pedophilia.

    In time, it will be put to progressives who retain white supremacist notions about "protecting children" that they're on the wrong side of history.

    [–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    This has happened many times over already.

    Michael Foucault did a whole chapter about how child abuse is great way to stick it to The Man and he's the most quoted person in academic literature.

    Ordinary people just have to beat them down over and over again.

    [–]Caamib 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

    I am actually not a real pedophile. I am a limited political pedophile like a political lesbian but am not attracted to actual kids (ACTUAL kids, mind you).

    [–]bobbobbybob 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    except you said "i'd fuck 11 or 12 year olds", so yeah, you are a pedophile. fuck off

    [–]jet199 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    Most child abusers aren't specifically attracted to kids. They just go for the most vulnerable people they can find. That's why they're scum.

    [–]wristaction 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Something about this doesn't ring true. There are plenty of vulnerable people a predator could select without the extreme risk that comes with violating minors. To cross that line would require deeper motivation than convenience.

    Sounds like a long orbital path back around to pro-MAP propaganda.

    [–]bobbobbybob 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

    we should draw the line at liberals, I reckon. We have actual marxists on here, ffs

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

    "Liberals" and moderates are already attacked constantly on this site, so no worries. I rarely see any of them. Mission accomplished.

    [–]Jesus 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    anti-semites: I know we have a lot of people who hate Palestinians here.

    [–]Caamib 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

    I am not incel. Not by any definition of it that isn't just "anybody who opposes femifascism". I used to be one but have beaten it. The mother thing is a lie too and he even quoted me denying it years ago.

    5 years ago everyone was an "MRA" and there's a new word that had its meaning twisted for leftist witch hunts

    .

    [–]bobbobbybob 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    i am not an incel

    except mods incel subs, has incel usernames, posts extensively on incels. Why are you even fucking here, just to cause shit?

    /u/magnora7 ban this cunt for promoting CP and fucking children, (11 or 12 year olds), please

    [–]fediverseshill 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    mods incel subs, has incel usernames, posts extensively on incels. Why are you even fucking here

    hey daddy gov plz make speech i dont like illegul kthx bai

    Vapes and dabs

    [–]Comatoast 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Someone unable to carry on an active sex life is one thing. However, suffer not the pedos to live.

    [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    Seems odd that someone at a "free speech" site would attack someone because of some of their previous posts.

    Perhaps I don't know enough about the user in question, but I've read through his and other related posts, and would still argue that any concerns about a user must relate to the latest post, not to a person's post history on other sites. If the user has a habit of getting Saidit posts deleted because of a failure to follow the rules (or advocating rape, violence & murder), perhaps /u/magnora7 should think about suspending and warning the problematic user. Attacking fellow Saiditors because of their histories seems to run counter to the Saidit proposed ethos of free speech &c.

    [–]magnora7 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    I agree, I only take in to account what people have posted from their saidit account because it's easy to steal someone else's name from another site, and I have no way of verifying. I let every person actually break the rules on saidit before being banned, saidit doesn't have a pre-crime division lol

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      [–]magnora7 18 insightful - 4 fun18 insightful - 3 fun19 insightful - 4 fun -  (9 children)

      People have been telling me that no porn will be the failure of this site since before day 1... seems to be working out just fine. And furthermore they can't shut us down by deliberately posting illegal porn, which is a common method of attack, so it actually makes the information on this site much more secure to not allow porn.

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        [–]jet199 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

        It's funny how some people really can't have any space where their sexual fantasies aren't present and centered. It drives them crazy.

        Most people know the basics of "you don't shit where you eat".

        [–]johnnybravo 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

        That's just creative writing. Probably allowed. If saidit can host s/watchpeopledie saidit can host erotica written by horny, thirsty men long as there's nothing illegal.

        [–]No_ 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

        And the lack of porn actually makes this a very welcoming site to women... who I’m sure don’t appreciate the videos of men jerking off to women being abused.

        [–]magnora7 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        Good point, I hadn't thought about that aspect of it!

        [–]RatherSmallPotato 7 insightful - 6 fun7 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 6 fun -  (15 children)

        Either mentally ill or God mode troll. Or both.

        [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

        I think he's just a troll, which is why I blocked him.

        [–]Caamib 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

        Don't think. Thinking seems to confuse you.

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          [–][deleted] 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (57 children)

          Mods, eject button.

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              [–]bobbobbybob 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (30 children)

              oh fuck off, we are not chans. He's here to promote fucking 11 or 12 yo kids (illegal, against site TOS) and jailbait porn (again, against site TOS)

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                [–]bobbobbybob 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

                he's broken several rules.

                He's promoting: rape, murder, pedophila

                rule 2:

                No pornography. Not because we are against it, per se, but it's more about the legal troubles associated with housing this type of content. It's better for the longevity and quality and legal safety of the site not to have it here. There's plenty of porn on reddit and voat and around the rest of the internet, so go there instead if you're interested in that type of content. Also no sexualization of children.

                So when he promoted fucking 11 and 12 year olds, since they are not children in his sick fucking head, he is broke rule 2. That's a disgrace, and will kill this site faster than anything he claims. HIs whole opening post was about jailbait, again, sexualising children. /u/magnora7 needs to get on top of those pedo sickos much faster.

                [–]magnora7 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

                I agree, he sexualized children repeatedly, and also was advocating mass murder in some posts. Banned.

                [–]bobbobbybob 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

                Thank you, magnora7. I think we'll see a lot more like him in the next few months, as the cancel crew seed sites (that they want to shut down) with ringers.

                [–]magnora7 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                No problem. Yeah you're probably right. We do see that type of attack every once in a while.

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                  [–]bobbobbybob 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                  yes, he has, by promoting actives illegal in the US, specifically fucking 11 or 12 year old children and raping women

                  [–]Caamib 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

                  Which rule have I broken?

                  [–]magnora7 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                  You said:

                  I'm a reactionary who supports patriarchy and mass murder of feminist scum.

                  Advocating mass murder is not allowed on saidit. That's the rule you broke.

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                    [–]goobandit 4 insightful - 6 fun4 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 6 fun -  (8 children)

                    My goat is over the age of consent so he probably wouldn’t want it

                    [–]Caamib 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

                    Aoc should just be abolished. Creates more problems than good things.

                    [–]goobandit 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                    Bruh, that’s a very pedo thing to say for someone who says they’re not a pedo! Children’s brains aren’t developed, they can’t consent to WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO TO THEM the same way they can’t consent to a binding contract, for example a financial obligation that extends for 30 years.

                    Defending it is sad and dangerous, dawg. I’m sorry that you can’t see or admit how wrong it is. Everyone here is right to tell you jail bait is indefensible. You’re selfish to be so entitled to other people’s bodies, especially people who simply haven’t got the strength or brainpower to defend themselves. You want to exploit them the same way you’re using the pyramid of debate to try to exploit the “flaw” of not having “true” free speech.

                    [–]Node 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                    I would argue that in a larger sense, even a substantial percentage of adults lack the ability to consent to harmful outside influence. Not to go full Ted Kaczynski, but the life of the average person in our 'modern' society is a horrorshow. Few fully developed people would consent to such existential rape.

                    I more than agree with what you're saying about children.

                    [–]Node 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                    AOC should just be abolished.

                    Bah, just send her back to some shitty bar where she's more qualified.

                    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

                    How can you tell if a goat is in the mood? It gets horny.

                    Animals can't consent though, unless maybe it's a bear. You can't rape a bear, she'll just eat you if she's not into it.

                    [–]Caamib 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                    Which rule have I broken?

                    Anyway, I do not want to have sex with my mother. If you actually read my posts you'd have seen that. Hell, you even quoted a post of mine saying I don't want to. You're a dishonest person.

                    [–]369 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (17 children)

                    Upon further inspection, it seems caamib is indeed a fuck, but plenty of you aren't any better.

                    There's an awful lot of "male feminists" on saidit, unfortunately, so it seems.
                    Frankly, both of your groups deserve each other.

                    [–]fediverseshill 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                    Its fucking highly ironic how many of these tards would be banned for reddit from their opinions here, yet they are just as hippocritical as the MTF mods on reddit.

                    Soyittors, the lot of these dumbfucks.

                    [–]magnora7 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                    Can you please stop repeatedly dragging the quality of discussion downward by calling everyone ad hominems in all your comments?

                    [–]madcow-5 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                    I'm like 75% sure fediverseshill and caamib are exclusively here to drag down the quality of the site.

                    [–]fishbox 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

                    are you seriously comparing feminism to pedophilia?

                    [–]TheJamesRocket 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

                    Jesus christ. This comments section is a complete shitshow.

                    [–]magnora7 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                    Yeah sometimes people have this idea for saidit of "Let's have an open public court for every user ban request."

                    It's an interesting idea, but this thread is an example of the faults that type of system would have.

                    [–]fschmidt 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

                    /u/caamib has a motherfucking incel wiki

                    So what? I do too. Being hated by modern scum is a positive sign.

                    [–][deleted] 12 insightful - 7 fun12 insightful - 6 fun13 insightful - 7 fun -  (8 children)

                    Oh, so you're a pedo too?

                    [–]fschmidt 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                    So you're a moron too?

                    [–][deleted] 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

                    Pedos should get the short drop.

                    [–][deleted]  (4 children)

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                      [–]fschmidt 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

                      Turns out he mods /r/incelconversations with our very own /u/fschmidt???

                      I don't agree with Caamib on everything, but he is intelligent and tolerant of other views which puts him in the upper 0.001% of modern humanity.

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                        [–]bobbobbybob 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                        but he is intelligent and tolerant of other views

                        yet, nearly everyone is telling him to fuck off with his jailbait porn and fucking of 11 or 12 year olds, and he is ignoring them

                        [–]DisgustResponse 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

                        That post was a perfect example of why this site needs a downvote. There's no way for communities to self-regulate and filter unwanted content.

                        [–]magnora7 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                        But the people trolling this site could just downvote everything else, using multiple accounts, and basically delete everyone's upvotes on everything. That's much worse than having a few bad things pop up on occasion, imo. That's why we designed it this way

                        [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

                        Charge a $1 a downvote lol.

                        [–]magnora7 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                        That is a hilarious idea. Talk about profiting from haters

                        [–]hfxB0oyA 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                        Classy as a dog's arsehole.

                        [–]369 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                        I won't lie, I gave him the benefit of the doubt. I did sort of get that vibe though.
                        Pretty fucked up person, if you ask me. Poor guy.

                        [–]solder0 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                        GUILTY!

                        [–]fediverseshill 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                        Some nobody has an opinion: THE POST!

                        No one wants or cares for this Oprah tier drama in this sub or on saidit.

                        Freedom of speech[2] is a principle that supports the freedom of an individual or a community to articulate their opinions and ideas without fear of retaliation, censorship, or legal sanction

                        Whine more, OP. 🦅🇺🇸🦅