Why can't you block admins?

submitted by Vulptex from self.SaidIt

I just noticed there's no option to block admins. Why is this? I don't think they should be special and be able to force everyone to see their content just because they have power and an A next to their username.

There may be an actual reason for this, and I'm also not sure if this is unique to saidit or is derived from reddit. So don't take this the wrong way, I'm not accusing anyone of anything.

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[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I can't remember if saidit coded this part up or not. I think the intention is it lets admins notify you/reply when you are banned and give an explanation to you. There's also sitewide messages from admins maybe.

[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I think it was part of reddit, that admins can't block users and users can't block admins. It makes sense if there needs to be a site-wide announcement or whatever, but I really wouldn't mind either way tbh

[–]Vulptex[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I do remember that admins can't block users but I'm not sure about the other way around. But I know modmails are not affected by blocks so blocking an admin shouldn't be an issue.

What's odd is that there is no option to block admins on their posts, but there is one in my inbox, though it doesn't actually work.

[–]Vulptex[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Usually those would come from anonymous modmail in which case I believe the block has no effect. Automatic messages would also come from the system account. You can block sub mods and it's not a problem so it shouldn't be any different for admins.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Well I don't know if this solves all mysteries, but the system account is also an admin.

[–]Vulptex[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Yes, but it's also separately flagged as the system account.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Improvements could be made, probably not a bad idea

[–]bobbobbybob 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

another reason why admins should not be normal user accounts.

[–]Vulptex[S] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

That would be a decent idea too actually. That way the official operations and personal content would be split.

[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

I've thought about doing that in the past, and maybe I'll do that, but a big part of the reason people migrated here originally was the articles that I wrote under the name magnora7, so I didn't want to discontinue that name as a normal user. But now that's not as big a draw so maybe it'd be smart to split the two

[–]Vulptex[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I figured that the admin account would have the alternate username, not the personal one

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Yes that's not a bad idea, but I still have to explain to everyone that that alternate username is run by the same person as the magnora7 account, and then if they know both are admins I almost don't see the point of splitting them in the first place, you know what I mean?

[–]Vulptex[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Some people might want to block an admin because they don't like their content.

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah I see, fair point

[–]proc0 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

There should be a hierarchy of admins, determined by their points on comments and submission, but also there should be a way to give feedback on the decisions they make. So if a comment gets removed, everyone can still vote on it, and the admin gets the points. In theory the admin with more points is the one whose actions agree with the users, and therefore should have the power to moderate any other admin below them.

I don't know if this is the solution, but certainly the current way crowd sourcing sites are moderated, is too easy to exploit and dominate the users. There is no incentive for admins to "behave" other than their own morals.

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    [–]proc0 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Yeah that's definitely a problem. it would need a bot filter of some kind. Many forums have implemented user hierarchies that affect voting power. This could work hand in hand with the admin hierarchy. All new users, including bots would have little voting power, and comparitively no influence to the vast majority of accounts that, in theory, would be used more often gaining more voting power... but this heavily depends on making sure human actions are rewarded, like commenting, and even implement machine learning on upvoting frequency etc, as oppose to simple things a bot would do.

    [–]rakwar 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    i left reddit after having to deal with way to many power tripping band admins because i didn;t agree with their questionable judgements and being an older person and little restrictions on saying how i see it...BANNED

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    The overseer doesn't want to be blocked.

    [–]SubliminalCriminal 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    if you go on mass shooting at walmart, can you shot the manajer?

    no, of course not.

    [–]deleted 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    manajer?

    *Manager