RSS for SaidIt - A good idea?

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[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (27 children)

I can't believe no one jumped on this.

/u/magnora7 /u/d3rr - Is this possible?

It would be nice to be able to archive SaidIt in a way, even if it's not in this SaidIt forum format. For example, an RSS thread on "New" and "New Comments" would be very neat, though people may edit and change their comments. At least it would be searchable in Thunderbird since the SaidIt search only applies to posts and DDG and Google searches are shit for SaidIt.

(I submitted for a !saidit bang at DuckDuckGo and they'll notify me if it gets accepted. https://duckduckgo.com/bang Try yourselves.)

Granted it raises new privacy issue that folks seem to be throwing a hissy fit about transparent voting - which makes me wonder what they say about RSS much less decentralization.

[–]NorwegianTonewood 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

https://saidit.net/new/.rss https://saidit.net/comments/.rss

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

FUCK ME THAT'S AWESOME ! ! !

Works like a dream! Perfect.

I figured there might be an auto feed being so similar in form. Unless you made it, in which case, hats off and thanks!

I don't know if this might make searching easier or provide another base from which to attack that problem.

/u/magnora7 /u/d3rr - Any chance you can add the 2 feeds to the footer?

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

Oh cool! Glad someone found it. I found an "RSS Feed" tab buried in the user preferences that was hidden, so I knew they must've had something close to working. I'm glad someone figured it out and was able to help! Thanks /u/NorwegianTonewood.

I'll add it to the footer soon.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

We should ditch the new feed and use this hot feed instead: https://saidit.net/.rss

[–]NorwegianTonewood 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Have both, as the dynamic nature of voting is counter to the linear design philosophy of RSS?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah sure have both. There's feeds for everywhere on the site, it seems weird only listing two without the "main" feed.

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Okay I'll add it to the footer as that. The apps & tools section is getting a little crowded lol

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Yeah it is. RSS seems like wiki page type item. We'll have to get a SaidIt user manual / how it works page going.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

https://infogalactic.com/info/SaidIt

or start one here? :

https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/wiki/index

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/wiki/index

Yeah I think this is the answer. We need to pester magnora to open it up.

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There it's unlocked

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

/u/magnora7 ping?

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Hey did you see this? https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/aphbov/this_is_why_i_need_a_reddit_alternative_this_is/

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

All three are great and serve different purposes.

I'm only responding now as I've discovered this conversation by chance. I'd love to get thread notifications.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think RSS is everywhere and ready to go.

Sub feed: https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/.rss

Post feed: https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/bon/rss_for_saidit_a_good_idea/.rss

And even a comment's feed: https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/bon/rss_for_saidit_a_good_idea/ndh/.rss

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

EVERYWHERE!?! Awesome.

Also:

If ever anyone needs to "harvest" data or transfer to decentralized platforms (assuming a database transfer/upgrade doesn't work) they can use this old fashioned protocol.

I'm almost tempted to use my Thunderbird for more than just hoarding feeds that I'll never read. But that would quickly spiral into a chaos of thread organizing chaos. (Also, with more and more decentralization breakthroughs I'm finding my hoarding compulsions dissipating.)

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Do people even use RSS anymore? I thought it was dying.

If you want to code an RSS system, get cracking!

[–]NorwegianTonewood 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I use the Saidit RSS feeds. XD

https://saidit.net/comments/.rss

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for that feedback, I'll take care of the RSS feed stuff knowing that people are using it now. I'm glad it works for you

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I use it non-stop, in Thunderbird, archiving every blog I wish I had time to read. It's also handy for torrents, etc. I used to believe we were headed for a cliff of censorship of some sort and that a lot of information would be lost in time.

Also, RSS is far superior to YouTube's extremely sketchy notification system.

I don't think a "system" is really necessary. It's just a feed protocol.

The more I hear about decentralization alternatives the more I believe we might actually have a chance. Nothing gets adapted overnight. And just as we are slow to adapt they are slow to obstruct. But they have more resources and will move quickly when necessary. But we are like an invisible gas among the sheeple, too hard to contain, too difficult to pinpoint.

There are different versions of RSS and Atom and others. Something like it might be one of the easier ways for everyone to share a decentralized SaidIt. Like it because RSS and Atom by their nature depend on a central broadcaster.

A quick search for "decentralized RSS" comes up dismal with a one on point:

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/8i99ef/an_idea_for_a_decentralized_rss_powered_by/ Bitcoin Cash.

Another search : https://duckduckgo.com/?q=decentralized+feeds is only slightly more promising.

PeerTweet - Decentralized Feeds using BitTorrent's DHT https://www.kitploit.com/2016/04/peertweet-decentralized-feeds-using.html

https://github.com/lmatteis/peer-tweet a few years stale.

https://github.com/rogeriochaves/elm-peer-tweet a couple years stale. Maybe Mastodon was too superior.

https://verity.network/ + PDF: Decentralized real-world data feeds - verity.network : https://verity.network/Verity-lightpaper.pdf - Not what I was after but interesting.

Not what I was looking for either, but ends on good news: https://www.reddit.com/r/UpliftingNews/comments/4v02ws/decentralized_app_that_feeds_the_hungry_by/

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't know if this is a feature worth dumping dozens of hours in to. I don't think RSS is very popular anymore. But you're welcome to take a stab at coding it

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yeah RSS is totally dying: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=rss

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Well...

Everyone knows what an RSS feed subscription is now. They don't have to search for it.

This is a more appropriate search that has dropped and leveled off: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=feeds

Wanna see something weird: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=atom

I wonder what happens once a year?

This is funny: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=atom%20feed

Crash and burn 100% in California.

Interesting, level with spikes: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=mastodon

The future? : https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=Fediverse

? : https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=Holochain

Peaked? : https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=IPFS

Scraping bottom: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=ZeroNet

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

'feeds' is a much more general term that includes food and eating and stuff, so you can't really say it's more appropriate than "RSS" itself. RSS is definitely dying though lol

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree that it's dying but it's a super simple protocol that may be useful for archival purposes, internal and/or external. If I recall, Aaron Swartz helped develop Atom.