A New Frontier: Operation Shuttit Down.

submitted by Jin from self.SaidIt

Hello everyone.

As I'm sure you're all aware of the status of Reddit, it is... deteriorating to say the least. While subs have been created (namely r/watchredditdie) to bring the issues of censorship and abuse of power to light, it is simply not enough. I provide a solution of sorts.

Talking shit, or showing screenshots of images get upvoted into oblivion, while when anyone else has asked for a call of action it simply gets ignored. Screenshots being sent to one sub will not particularly do much, though it will help spread some awareness. What I'd like to see is something much more. Admins of Saidit, I implore you to not make the same mistakes that Reddit has made.

I am bringing a call to action. Whether or not anyone answers this call, is up to the communities of Reddit. Here I will be debriefing the plan of action.

Locate primary targets: Communities against Reddit's recent actions, or those who may be targeted by Reddit staff.

Issue ''The Notice'' : Remember net neutrality? Yes. We will use the same method. Asking communities to cooperate and form an alliance, and sticky a thread addressing the issues at hand, and how we should be dealing with them.

Lock & Load: Once the alliance is set, threads have been stickied, etc. We then proceed to the action itself. Fridays and Saturdays, will be boycotted. Do not go on the website. Message u/Spez en masse, request his presence in r/iama, and begin to call out his shenanigans.

If he dodges questions, is snarky, or the communities of said allegiance are banned, we begin to migrate here.

I personally will be frequenting here more often, but I want to put up a fight. If they want to continue to do their shitty ways. Let them. We will bring as many people here as possible, and hurt them where it counts. This is a fresh canvas. Opportunities of open discussion can be made here.

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[–]magnora7 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Interesting ideas. In my opinion, the best revenge is to build a separate place so wonderful and full of great information and community that reddit falls apart forever and people come here instead.

I can't say I care too much about spez lol. But that said, it's good to shine a spotlight on how reddit is falling apart, like in /s/meanwhileonreddit. I'm a big fan of documenting corruption and documenting the censorship of real information.

[–]wizzwizz4 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Interesting. Perhaps this should be coordinated in a new sub somewhere. This is not the intended aim of this site (it wasn't, afaik, set up to revolve around what was going on on Reddit), but I don't think anybody will have issues with you coordinating this here.

[–]send_nasty_stuff 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Since most of the users here come from reddit it's probably going to be that way for a while. Until reddit totally dies like Digg.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

/s/SaidItPromotion ?

/s/PromoteSaidIt ?

Or "PSA: Call Out For The Top Twenty Ways To Promote SaidIt" ?

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

This proposal seems more like "boycott Reddit" than "promote Saidit"; it's not a zero-sum game, so those might not be right.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

How do you always flip everything upside down?

Where in do you find "boycott" or "Redddit" in this:

/s/SaidItPromotion ?

/s/PromoteSaidIt ?

Or "PSA: Call Out For The Top Twenty Ways To Promote SaidIt" ?

I said nothing about crapping on or damaging the Reddit thing. I'm not even a Redditor. I don't even care about it falling apart. I'm for promoting SaidIt. What does zero-sum have to do with anything? FFS.

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Hey JasonCarswell, we're thinking about using your cool saidit speech bubble logo as the main logo for saidit, but only if you're willing to release all rights and future claims to the image, and turn ownership of the design entirely over to saidit. Does that sound okay to you?

[–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I released it to you back in January when we developed it (/s/SaidIt/comments/adu/decentralizing_saidit/m6g ). I hope you might open source it but it's my gift to you and leave that in your hands. Also, you can open source it later, maybe long after you've established solid branding awareness with a merchandise web store - or give yourself a meaningful date, like SaidIt's 5th birthday in 3.5 years.

Seeing some of the news sub CSS themes with neat little tricks inspired me to apply them. I feel like my themes are pretty much done, likely after the next pass. Then I can survey who wants to be mod of them and maybe /u/magnora7 and /u/d3rr can advise on selections to hand over to.

My to do list said "tweak day mod colours" but I'd forgotten my more specific ideas. I have one more image to add (just discovered on another CSS), a new day/night icon I want to try, make some new SVG lightbulbe and smiley vote icons, and I have some new banners to finish for some older subs (my first banners were slapped together and now it's a whole thing so Architecture, ElectionsUSA2020, Tin Foil Hat, USAmerica, don't measure up) before I give them up.

Plus I'd like to give one last go at my 3 remaining "FAIL"s in my code. (Search it for "fail" /s/DecentralizeAllThings/about/stylesheet/ #1 is a neat trick on /s/Unc0ver/ when you hover over "message the moderators". #2 is about the "formatting help" table under comment entry. I think it depends on code tweeks. And if you're doing that there is a little wish list of things to add to that "formatting help" table. #3 Seems simple, but I failed. On the /about/stylesheet/ pages as mod you can "save" and "preview" and I wanted to have a green "save" with yellow text and inverse those colours for the "preview" button. Feel free to fix these.)

Also, not labeled as a fail, at the bottom of the sidebox, after, is "Ergonomix Subsaidit CSS Theme" that I'd like to be linked to https://saidit.net/s/Sex/about/stylesheet/ . My shortest title, "Sex" will be my next sub, Friday, and of all subs, I really would like M7D3 to be co-moderators to maintain order there. If none other, please accept my invitation there.

I moved my reference notes to https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/wiki/CustomCSS and I wrote a new "Ergonomix Subsaidit CSS Theme" intro with installing instructions for newbies that should be easy to follow.

I wouldn't by any stretch say I've mastered this CSS, but I feel like I have a pretty good handle on it. Maybe next year I will design another one with an aesthetic not second to practicality. Maybe I'd do some for my projects. Or maybe I could design one for site wide SaidIt use with minor improvements, but mostly the same. Unless a change is asked for.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for releasing the image to us, just wanted to make sure! We might open-source the image, not a bad idea. I like your CSS themes too, you definitely have given us food for thought with all the various layout options you've created. For now we'll just stick with the image though :) Although I might port some of your CSS changes to the main site someday.

Thanks for all the links! And thanks again for the image!

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I said nothing about crapping on or damaging the Reddit thing.

Communication breakdown, sorry. No, the thing you were commenting on seems more like "boycott Reddit", and I thought your suggestions didn't fit that.

[–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Suggestion to all Redditors:

  1. Post things on SaidIt.

  2. Go to Reddit.

  3. Link the SaidIt content on Reddit.

Hashtags: #DecentralizeReddit, #FightElitesNotEachOther

[–]StalwartJames 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

We also need to make Reddit Enhancement Suite for Saidit into a proper add-on.

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

It exists. I'm not a Redditor so I don't know how proper it is.

/s/SaidIt/wiki/index#wiki Apps & Clients

[–]StalwartJames 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I mean a non-debug addon, that sticks.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I don't know what that means.

[–]StalwartJames 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

When you load the addon, it goes away when you quit the browser.

[–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Neato. I think. /u/d3rr and /u/magnora7 might want to know about this.

Either you, or they, could add this to the /s/IdeasForSaidIt/wiki/feature_ideas wish lists, as I don't really feel confident in describing it.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you, we are aware of this.

[–]HopeThatHalps 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

As I'm sure you're all aware of the status of Reddit, it is... deteriorating to say the least.

By what metric is reddit dying, or deteriorating? Because by a lot of people's estimations, their recent subreddit bannings only serve to clean reddit up. What makes those people wrong? TBH, Im here because a subreddit I frequented was banned, but at the same time, I understand why they banned it and I don't have ill will towards reddit for having done so.