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[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Reddit has a reddit request system, and implementing something similar should be done here before it becomes a noted problem.

While I see your concern, a system like this is a problem in itself. If the problem on reddit is abusive moderators (which I agree with), why would we want more active moderators, and replicate their failed system?

[–]MaximilianKohler 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

why would we want more active moderators, and replicate their failed system?

Well reddit subs without active moderation typically turn into low quality fluff. Compare /r/worldpolitics to /r/neutralpolitics. 0 moderation vs heavy moderation. But they mostly have the heavy moderation done right. Whereas other subs like /r/science and /r/askscience have heavy moderation done wrong.

Scroll down to the /r/science & /r/askscience part:

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Lol worldpolitics doens't have 0 moderation, it's very heavily moderated to create a certain bias. Neutralpolitics is good, but it all depends on the mod you get. It's very easy for subs like that to become biased echo-chambers with the wrong mod

[–]MaximilianKohler 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You must be thinking of another sub. turned into a meme sub due to lack of moderation. People complained about it for years then finally gave up and left.

It's very easy for subs like that to become biased echo-chambers with the wrong mod

I agree, which is why moderation is an important topic that needs to be fixed for any reddit alternative to succeed So far I think saidit has a way to go before solving all the problems with reddit.

For example, the problem of "random people who got there first" controlling subs isn't a solved problem here.

Tildes is doing some nice things, but the lack of ability to create a community like /r/fecaltransplant or /r/FMTClinics for example, means they're not a valid replacement in my case.

[–]UmamiTofu[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

If you don't want moderators to do anything then just get rid of moderators.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

That's also too extreme in the other direction, I can't moderate the whole site myself

[–]UmamiTofu[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

So there is something that moderators are supposed to do, but it's OK if some of them don't do it? Not even because the community wants an inactive moderator, but just because they took the namespace when the website was released, and got a bunch of default subscribers and people who were just looking for a copy of their old subreddit. And there is nothing to stop abusive moderation either.

So you're accepting both extremes because it's easier?

You can make /s/SaiditRequest but base it on user discussions. Then review the arguments and make a change if there is some kind of consensus.

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

So you're accepting both extremes because it's easier?

No we're taking a moderate position because it's worked out so far.

I am not making saiditRequest. That system was horribly abused and many subs were stolen by bad people using that system, I had it happen to me on reddit.

[–]deveyer 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

there are also people (like me) who want to request anysub and everyreddit to make their list of moderated subs grow ridiculously. its one of the reasons why Powermods are a thing, redditrequest enables them

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly. We want to avoid the whole powermod situation. It's another reason we have a 2-week waiting period between registering subs.