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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (16 children)

"if you don't vote"

Seriously, fuck you. I have the right not to vote for either aisle. You know that I do.

You support the 1% every time you vote. You give the whole apparatus legitimacy that it does not deserve when you take part in their co-opted events.

I have the right to abstain from evil. Never try and blame this mess on people who refuse to vote. Socks, you silly little raccoon.

[–]fred_red_beans 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Please don't bring down discussion with personal insults.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Is calling someone a raccoon offensive?

Should I spell out my words for you? It's not an insult, it's a comparison. An accurate one, too.

Socks lies and obfuscates, throws plenty of shade, but he does it all with his tongue in his cheek. He is shifty, like a silly little raccoon. You should be the hound in this situation. So should the other folks involved in this website.

I offer discussion and always will, no matter where I go. What drags discussions down are shifty people who lie and ignore questions. I don't ignore questions.

If I ignore this warning, will I get in trouble?

[–]fred_red_beans 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

No, have discussion. But let's refrain from just out right "fuck you".

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well, hang on, is it name-calling I should stop, or telling socks to go and masturbate?

I thought it would be a better use of his time, sorry.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

If you have any interests in helping other people, you'll vote. If you think you won't suffer the consequences of not voting (if in a democracy), you're wrong.

And I see you're back to name-calling. Run out of arguments?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I can help people in many other ways, thank you. Our votes don't matter when it comes to federal government. Even pretending otherwise only cripples your ability to understand how the 1% rapes the 99%.

You are a raccoon. And I am a deerhound.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Yes, your vote matters.

And if you're a dog, you can sign with an X, as long as you have a witness to sign.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

No, my vote doesn't matter. I've been involved in local politics my entire life. I know how things work.

If our votes mattered, then our politicians would act with courage and honor. Votes don't matter. The amount of money in your wallet does. Quit being so damned impotent. You can't vote evil away, nor can you argue with it on the court floor. These methods have failed us.

There are other methods which have yet to fail, and people are turning back to those older, more reliable ways of defense.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

What's that? An initial approach to mentioning a potential approach to a political solution? On Saidit?!? Alright then - if you are against democratic approaches, what's your plan? Have a dictator in mind? Anarchy? Do you have a plan that is part of a democracy and works with the democracy? I'm all ears (er. eyes).

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I'm not against democratic approaches. The US has already proven that it has voter fraud, there are lawsuits every election concerning this. Usually nothing comes from these lawsuits, because they are trying to get some justice from the very bureaucrats who did the fraud in the first place.

We have talked about my personal views before. I believe that democratic clan-based monarchies are the future. Do you have a bad memory? We have talked about this.

The fact that you pretend we all just sit around with our thumbs up our butts, as if Saidit was just thedonald.... It pisses me off. I hate the left and right charade. I hate ethnic genocide and racial slavery. I hate economic slavery.

America is the New Rome. Many other countries are parts of this new Empire. You peddle shit solutions, like "put on a mask, trust Fauci, go vote (only blue, unless you're a mentally ill retard)"

Your solutions are Empire-approved. Good luck with that.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

One of the reasons I at Saidit is to see what you and a few others think. (I obviously don't like the abuse, but whatever.) What I am not hearing from you are solutions, though I do appreciate that you can write several books on the problems. I am especially interested in what solutions Saiditors have in mind.

One user told me months ago about his interests in supporting the Green party, whilst he's in Canada, and whilst it can get sufficient seats to have an impact in that country. This seems reasonable.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

You can't think outside of the box that's been given to you.

Every solution you'll consider is basically just an appeal to authority. You think the established structures will produce positive long-term change.

I believe in rebuilding families, cultural traditions, and ethnic unity through clan structure. Your mindset only offers companies and corporations.

I believe in voting directly for leaders who we know and interact with. They are family, and our homestead is ours to govern, as is right and proper. In your solutions, we still have broken families thrusting their hopes on a politician they've never met.

If society ever crumbles, you'll hope to live in a democratic clan based monarchy, rather than the tribalist dictatorship our politicians would try to corral us into.

Don't be a cow, or a raccoon. I am offering solutions.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

OK - this is a start to an approach to solutions, though these are very broad generalities, if one is thinking about the reality of the democratic process. Certainly, vote for someone who appears to have these connections, but there's nothing new to this. In the South it's called the "old boy network", but it goes by many names. My responses to your points below.

I believe in rebuilding families

It's not clear here why families should be "rebuilt" and how one would "rebuild" a family

cultural traditions

It's not clear here which cultural tradition is at issue. If you refer to all US cultural traditions, there is also nothing new here.

and ethnic unity through clan structure

This is racism. Ethnicities naturally mix. If you want ethnic unity, you'll have to segregate ethnicities. It didn't work well in the US, Turkey and South Africa, and it's responsible for attrocities in China and Israel.

I believe in voting directly for leaders who we know and interact with. They are family

This might be possible in districts with low populations, but it's obviously not possible in most cities.